Celtic v St Mirren, Sun 5th Jan

[Saint@Johnstone]

Saw the highlights just there. Pathetic display.

[Swiss_Saint]

38 minutes ago, guinness said:

No idea why Hemmings has been brought back. Not impressed with him first time

Luckily the manager and coaches are, 15 clean sheets for us last season would say he is decent and comparable to Vaclav and better than Carsons but hey ho some people are never happy.

 

p.s. Today the team were shit too many errors all over the pitch but to single out Hemming is beyond nutty

[CraigyBoy]

38 minutes ago, Swiss_Saint said:

Luckily the manager and coaches are, 15 clean sheets for us last season would say he is decent and comparable to Vaclav and better than Carsons but hey ho some people are never happy.

 

p.s. Today the team were shit too many errors all over the pitch but to single out Hemming is beyond nutty

This is true - to solely blame Hemming is ridiculous 

However , those who blamed Balcombe for us only having 2 clean sheets all year and see Zach as some sort of saviour maybe disappointed. 🤷🤷

[Swiss_Saint]

To be fair I thought Balcombe improved over the season to where he was a decent keeper, I still think Hemming is abit better but probably due to having a whole year of Langers coaching.

[guinness]

1 hour ago, Swiss_Saint said:

Luckily the manager and coaches are, 15 clean sheets for us last season would say he is decent and comparable to Vaclav and better than Carsons but hey ho some people are never happy.

 

p.s. Today the team were shit too many errors all over the pitch but to single out Hemming is beyond nutty

Beyond nutty? The first goal went straight through him.

[Rascal]

I missed this game. Only the second one this season but did listen to the commentary. Most games have been close but our defence has been creaking. Hemming was ( and I hope will be again) one or best keepers in recent times. I would rate him behind Hladky but ahead of Carson and Balcome. 

[beyond our ken]

4 hours ago, party politics said:

Why do say it is a threadbare squad?

Unless I am forgetting some players, the only two currently injured are the perma crocked pair of Dunne and McMenamin.

Rooney, Van Veen and Brown all gone, not at all what was planned.

Iacovitti missing for weeks and not really effective on his return.  Several players seemed to come back from the short close season in less than good shape.  McMenamin perpetually inured, Scott not living up to potential and not really featuring.  Ayunga not providing any quality and Kiltie is only recently back, similar story with Tanser.  The players who have featured week-in week-out  are already tired and in need of rest.  We have no back-up keeper

[party politics]

32 minutes ago, beyond our ken said:

Rooney, Van Veen and Brown all gone, not at all what was planned.

Iacovitti missing for weeks and not really effective on his return.  Several players seemed to come back from the short close season in less than good shape.  McMenamin perpetually inured, Scott not living up to potential and not really featuring.  Ayunga not providing any quality and Kiltie is only recently back, similar story with Tanser.  The players who have featured week-in week-out  are already tired and in need of rest.  We have no back-up keeper

So in my mind we did not go to Parkhead today with a raft of injuries to contend with, so no threadbare squad. Who came back from the close season in bad shape? We laid on a pre-season camp in Spain and I don't recall any talk of fitness issues.

Brown ( a very bit part player) has been replaced with a Welsh internationalist. Rooney and Van Veen were positive signings for the club, but did we conduct the correct due diligence on them both. Rooney, according to many supporters after his contract termination, was known to be a bit of a rocket off the field, so why take the risk? Van Veen only made a couple of brief appearances for us before his troubles broke into the media. Again did the club carry out their due diligence correctly?

We do we have a back up keeper, he has recently been rewarded with a new contract!

We got beat at Parkhead today, because we were nowhere need good enough, not because of a threadbare squad.

 

[stlucifer]

17 hours ago, party politics said:

So in my mind we did not go to Parkhead today with a raft of injuries to contend with, so no threadbare squad. Who came back from the close season in bad shape? We laid on a pre-season camp in Spain and I don't recall any talk of fitness issues.

Brown ( a very bit part player) has been replaced with a Welsh internationalist. Rooney and Van Veen were positive signings for the club, but did we conduct the correct due diligence on them both. Rooney, according to many supporters after his contract termination, was known to be a bit of a rocket off the field, so why take the risk? Van Veen only made a couple of brief appearances for us before his troubles broke into the media. Again did the club carry out their due diligence correctly?

We do we have a back up keeper, he has recently been rewarded with a new contract!

We got beat at Parkhead today, because we were nowhere need good enough, not because of a threadbare squad.

 

Can't argue with most of this but I do think you're going over the top re Rooney. If a club were to refuse the chance to sign a seriously good player on the merits of what he might do because he's a bit of a lad they'd be limiting their player pool quite badly. As it is, ATM, we still don't know whether the incident merited us casting him adrift. I personally think the club acted in haste.

[faraway saint]

On 1/5/2025 at 4:28 PM, Swiss_Saint said:

Looked like Fraser went for same ball and that was what caused the error rather than Hemming alone

Just watched it again mate, I'm very much in the "goalie blundered" boat. 

Pity, as holding them to just the two is easier to take. 

Anyhow, all players make mistakes, the amount of goals/points we've gifted this season is frightening and must be painful for the manager. 

[party politics]

5 hours ago, stlucifer said:

Can't argue with most of this but I do think you're going over the top re Rooney. If a club were to refuse the chance to sign a seriously good player on the merits of what he might do because he's a bit of a lad they'd be limiting their player pool quite badly. As it is, ATM, we still don't know whether the incident merited us casting him adrift. I personally think the club acted in haste.

I did not mean to be over the top re the Rooney debacle. What my point was if a lot of supporters "knew" he was a rocket (off the pitch)(and on sometimes😁) was he worth the risk.? I knew nothing about him apart from he was a very difficult opponent and a winner when we have came up against him previously, I thought he was a great signing. I agree that the club may have acted in haste, but would hope the club know more than we do.

The bulk of our support fully backed the clubs decision to offload him, where it was less of an issue for me (and maybe you).

To finish, I hope the club have learned from the 3 incidents and we only sign people who are only bits of " bits of a lad" going forward not the full blown version a lot of our support seemed to know about 🤔