Goalkeeper dilemma?

[stlucifer]

Is Urminsky going to be risked as our number 1 or are Saints' just taking their time?

While I like what little I've seen from big Peter I don't think we should be going into the season with a rookie who has yet to be proven at any real level. 

To be honest, we've set ourselves up for this by the lack of foresight. Perhaps we should have tried to get two keepers in and let PU go out on loan a couple of years ago to gain experience and make himself ready for taking over.

[beyond our ken]

it does seem that planning for that position is very reactive, it's not the first time in recent years we have been looking at second choices within a couple of weeks of the new season preliminaries.

I'd agree that Peter should either have been given a more comprehensive development plan that would have him challenging for the number one spot by now, or he should have been moved on at some point in the last 2 years.

[Saint@Johnstone]

I’m rather more concerned with the recent trend in signing, or borrowing, players from lower or even non league in England. Not just by Saints it has to be said. It reminds one of the Stubbs era when he assumed that the standard here is so low that non league players from his own country would suffice here. Similar to what I think the new rangers manager is going to try. As for a goalie, I dread to think who we are going to sign or borrow. 

[Swiss_Saint]

Who have we borrowed from non league? I know we signed oseni from Gateshead and hopefully he can kick on this year but struggling to think of who else to make it a trend

[Saint@Johnstone]

4 hours ago, Swiss_Saint said:

Who have we borrowed from non league? I know we signed oseni from Gateshead and hopefully he can kick on this year but struggling to think of who else to make it a trend

Richardson signed from non league as well as Oseni. I was mainly generalising but unconvinced of the likelihood they will succeed. Latest signing today I put in that category. We need a goalie and a centre forward desperately.

[faraway saint]

The transfer window doesn't close till 1st September. 

That's over two months in case anyone thinks we need to be panicking. 

Robinson has signed plenty of players who gave blossomed under his guidance. 

I'd be inclined to trust him rather the usual negative Norman's before a player has kicked a ball. 

[stlucifer]

Anyhoo... To get back on point.

Still no sign of a goalie. I hope SR is actively looking.

[alanb]

Looking for a goalkeeper who can count up to EIGHT.

[shull]

23 minutes ago, alanb said:

Looking for a goalkeeper who can count up to EIGHT.

Indeed 

So cringe to watch  a goalkeeper catch the ball then fall to the ground to waste time 

[faraway saint]

According to those who attended yesterday it's become even more critical we sign a goalie as "Peter" was shaky at best.  🙄

Edited June 29 by faraway saint

[stlucifer]

1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

According to those who attended yesterday it's become even more critical we sign a goalie as "Peter" was shaky at best.  🙄

I agree. He had next to nothing to do but, when called upon, he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

[faraway saint]

36 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

I agree. He had next to nothing to do but, when called upon, he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

It will probably end the hope he could step up this season. 

Pity but as it's such a critical position we need a confident guy between the sticks. 

[HSS]

https://www.alloaadvertiser.com/sport/25274754.andy-graham-new-goalkeeper-pj-morrison-trains-st-mirren/

[Maboza]

The clamour from some for big Urminsky to be given a chance as number 1 is just mental. It’s like he’s turned into a cult figure, ‘2-metre Pete’ and folk think he’s going to be amazing despite nothing to suggest it when we saw him play terribly vs Rangers a couple of years back and have seen nothing since. 
 

He looked nowhere near it yesterday for the very little that he had to do.  
 

If we think he’s got potential he needs to go on loan somewhere this season that he’ll play and can afford to make mistakes. 
 

Its got be between Mullen and someone else for the jersey. 

[faraway saint]

Just now, Maboza said:

The clamour from some for big Urminsky to be given a chance as number 1 is just mental. It’s like he’s turned into a cult figure, ‘2-metre Pete’ and folk think he’s going to be amazing despite nothing to suggest it when we saw him play terribly vs Rangers a couple of years back and have seen nothing since. 
 

He looked nowhere near it yesterday for the very little that he had to do.  
 

If we think he’s got potential he needs to go on loan somewhere this season that he’ll play and can afford to make mistakes. 
 

Its got be between Mullen and someone else for the jersey. 

I'd think the majority agree with you mate, especially after yesterday's shaky performance. 

He's been under the scrutiny of the manager for long enough and hasn't had a sniff. 

Sooner the better we get somebody as it'll take a wee bit of time for any new keeper to get used to the players. 

What height are you? 😉

[17/03/13]

Urminsky given no.1 squad number......is that a clue he's going to be first choice or not?

[beyond our ken]

On 6/29/2025 at 4:05 PM, Maboza said:

The clamour from some for big Urminsky to be given a chance as number 1 is just mental. It’s like he’s turned into a cult figure, ‘2-metre Pete’ and folk think he’s going to be amazing despite nothing to suggest it when we saw him play terribly vs Rangers a couple of years back and have seen nothing since. 
 

He looked nowhere near it yesterday for the very little that he had to do.  
 

If we think he’s got potential he needs to go on loan somewhere this season that he’ll play and can afford to make mistakes. 
 

Its got be between Mullen and someone else for the jersey. 

There's no clamour for him to be given the slot, only a request that we get behind him when he is called upon to serve the team

Mullen has an injury history that makes me think he MAY have arrived short of fitness & sharpness and in that situation Peter is maybe being given the responsibility of stepping up and also the chance of enough first team minutes against lower league opposition to improve & learn.  It was already said (somewhere) that Peter would get the group stages to stake a claim, if he fails then I'm pretty sure that he COULD be either sent on loan or let go, but that would leave us with only one keeper, a player who has recently struggled to last a full season.  

So, I don't get all this "clamour" to hive 2mP off just now, we can't afford to field an academy player or an outfielder in goals in the premiership so let's just see what the management team can do with the situation.  And stop giving the guy a hard time.

[beyond our ken]

On 6/29/2025 at 10:29 AM, HSS said:

https://www.alloaadvertiser.com/sport/25274754.andy-graham-new-goalkeeper-pj-morrison-trains-st-mirren/

He was back-up at Alloa last season, according to that report, so maybe he is the fall-back if big Peter cant impress before the deadline.

[17/03/13]

26 minutes ago, beyond our ken said:

He was back-up at Alloa last season, according to that report, so maybe he is the fall-back if big Peter cant impress before the deadline.

That article is 2 weeks old, bud. Morrison signed for Cliftonville at start of week

[beyond our ken]

1 hour ago, 17/03/13 said:

That article is 2 weeks old, bud. Morrison signed for Cliftonville at start of week

So never really under consideration, I guess

[Tom Blacks Left Boot]

On 6/24/2025 at 9:52 AM, shull said:

Indeed 

So cringe to watch  a goalkeeper catch the ball then fall to the ground to waste time 

Correct sir.