faraway saint Posted August 31 Author Report Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Saint@Johnstone said: Will watch highlights later, sounded like a scare right at the death. Admiration to those posters on here able to update the match whilst attending to game. Multitaskers supreme. Do you know how faraway Thailand is? Asking for a friend. Quote
Saint@Johnstone Posted August 31 Report Posted August 31 4 hours ago, faraway saint said: Do you know how faraway Thailand is? Asking for a friend. It’s actually Siam. Quote
stlucifer Posted September 1 Report Posted September 1 (edited) Took time before posting as I wasn't sure in real time of the validity of the penalty claim. Having seen it on TV I can see the argument from both sides. Micro analysing these instances on TV is a bit ridiculous but the long and short of it is that it is inconclusive which means the referee did not make a clear and obvious mistake. IF it had been given, I don't think VAR would have overruled it. At the end of the day I think we did enough to earn the point and, to my mind, it would have been very harsh for us to lose the game. Especially in such a cruel manner. Edited September 1 by stlucifer Quote
faraway saint Posted September 1 Author Report Posted September 1 On 8/25/2025 at 10:42 AM, faraway saint said: The tough games keep on coming and Hibs away will be a real test. It's strange that we could go into September without a league win and still be feeling quite confident. The good thing is they could be a wee bit fatigued after a European game, and deflated as I suspect they will go out. There ye go, we've not won a league game but the majority of the support are feeling pretty good about our team at this stage. Scoring goals is a slight concern, still some hope we sign somebody today so let's see how we're fixed after the deadline tonight. Next up is away to Falkirk who'll be feeling quite confident after beating a sorry Aberdeen. If we're hoping to be a serious top six side we've got to be looking at winning these games, can't see us getting top six by drawing all our games. 😉 Quote
eastlandssaint Posted September 1 Report Posted September 1 Hibernian 1-1 St Mirren | Scottish Premiership Highlights | Football News | Sky Sports Quote
guinness Posted September 1 Report Posted September 1 Reasonable performance and a draw about right. Still lack a cutting edge. Richardson gets into some good positions but always looks to pass or cross. Should be encouraged to take on the shot occassionally. Next few League games very important. Need to start beating the likes of Falkir k and Dundee. On reading the managers interviews not very confident of anyone else coming in. Pity as we need a pa cy forward. Quote
The Original 59er Posted September 2 Report Posted September 2 If anyone watched the Chelsea vs Fulam game on Saturday the VAR decison that wiped out a really good Fulham goal in the 1st half, brings the whole argument of right and wrong into focus. A particular piece of skill led to a player accidentally trodding on an opponents foot before he made the telling pass that would lead to a great goal, that was then chalked off due to the foot incident. The argument here is that had there been no VAR the goal would have stood all day long. In Saints case in the last minute again had there been no VAR then there wouldn't have been any debate. Fortunately for us the VAR official deemed it in our favour, but if it had been the English VAR official who did the Chelsea / Fulham game would he made a different decsion? Bear in mind in each case the referee didn't give a foul! There seems to be too much emphasis on VAR stepping in to contradict a referee's decision. Yes, when offside is judged by the cameras I am in favour of this, as it is difficult for liesmen to see both the player in an apparent offside position and the exact timing of the pass. However in our penalty situation it came down to an external decision take 20 miles away , not the man on the spot. We all know refereeing isn't easy, especially with so much at stake, but now it is becoming a distant contradictory element of the game which is unhealthy for the sport. Quote
HSS Posted September 2 Report Posted September 2 ^^^^^^ At least it was admitted it was as a mistake although that doesn’t help Fulham https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce93l9j0xk8o Quote
stlucifer Posted September 2 Report Posted September 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Original 59er said: If anyone watched the Chelsea vs Fulam game on Saturday the VAR decison that wiped out a really good Fulham goal in the 1st half, brings the whole argument of right and wrong into focus. A particular piece of skill led to a player accidentally trodding on an opponents foot before he made the telling pass that would lead to a great goal, that was then chalked off due to the foot incident. The argument here is that had there been no VAR the goal would have stood all day long. In Saints case in the last minute again had there been no VAR then there wouldn't have been any debate. Fortunately for us the VAR official deemed it in our favour, but if it had been the English VAR official who did the Chelsea / Fulham game would he made a different decsion? Bear in mind in each case the referee didn't give a foul! There seems to be too much emphasis on VAR stepping in to contradict a referee's decision. Yes, when offside is judged by the cameras I am in favour of this, as it is difficult for liesmen to see both the player in an apparent offside position and the exact timing of the pass. However in our penalty situation it came down to an external decision take 20 miles away , not the man on the spot. We all know refereeing isn't easy, especially with so much at stake, but now it is becoming a distant contradictory element of the game which is unhealthy for the sport. VAR was brought in to stop obvious mistakes. It has morphed into being "slow motion referee" now. I don't mind them using it to correct offside decisions, (though, even then, I think there should be a little leeway), but, in the cases of Fulham and Saints calls, I don't believe the referee and linesmen made a clear or obvious error in real time so I don't think VAR should have even got involved. I believe this is what is turning people against the technology. Edited September 2 by stlucifer Quote
DougJamie Posted September 2 Report Posted September 2 So glad it wasn't given BUT...if we hadn't got that i would be rather upset Quote
The Original 59er Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 On 9/2/2025 at 5:51 PM, stlucifer said: VAR was brought in to stop obvious mistakes. It has morphed into being "slow motion referee" now. I don't mind them using it to correct offside decisions, (though, even then, I think there should be a little leeway), but, in the cases of Fulham and Saints calls, I don't believe the referee and linesmen made a clear or obvious error in real time so I don't think VAR should have even got involved. I believe this is what is turning people against the technology. Agree entirely, VAR is now almost a safety net for SFA / EUFA to correct everything they think is an incorrect decision by the referee. Yes we shouted at refs in the past when we thought they got it wrong, but good referees still came out of that era and were respected by both players and fans Quote
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