kilwinningbuddie Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 Carl Robinson no no no This is not the solution a manager who has not managed in 4 years has no experience of Scottish football . But has previously worked with our recruitment specialist Park, the person who got us the prolific striker ettete, Give the job to Mcleish till end of season our recruitment has been terrible this season but lets appoint someone our specialist thinks is ok. This appointment will break the support Quote
kilwinningbuddie Posted March 22 Author Report Posted March 22 Oh and another question for SMISA who runs our fan owned club.? Quote
kilwinningbuddie Posted March 22 Author Report Posted March 22 Also how much influence do SMISA The club owners have in the appointment of our new manager Quote
faraway saint Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 46 minutes ago, kilwinningbuddie said: Also how much influence do SMISA The club owners have in the appointment of our new manager You don't understand fan ownership, do you? Quote
kilwinningbuddie Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 You don't understand fan ownership, do you? Quote
faraway saint Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 23 minutes ago, kilwinningbuddie said: You don't understand fan ownership, do you? 22 minutes ago, kilwinningbuddie said: No I don’t get it atall Are you a SMISA member? Quote
beyond our ken Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 The majority of shares are owned by the fans, Kibble are a large minority shareholder and many shares lie in the hands of members of the public who may or may not be saints fans. That means we are partially fan-owned, not fully. When Gillespie was at Kibble it was him, the chairman and Lasley who ran the club's business. I'd say that up until Gillespie's departure Kibble were the group that really ran the club, maybe that is still the case. Quote
kilwinningbuddie Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 Thanks for explaining im not a. SMISA member my concern is that we are appointing an untried manager on the recommendation of our recruitment guy when our recruitment has been very poor this season Quote
fmckinn Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Robinson is not an option that's gets me excited, would rather go with McLeish and co till end of season and hopefully a better option becomes available Quote
Scott-Leeds Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 24 minutes ago, fmckinn said: Robinson is not an option that's gets me excited, would rather go with McLeish and co till end of season and hopefully a better option becomes available Agreed, definitely a backwards move if we appoint him Also, defies logic if you see his CV and stats I don’t speak ill of people but certainly hope this is paper talk and nothing else Quote
eastlandssaint Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Carl Robinson 'interviewed' by Dundee United for manager's post Was also linked to Dundee United in 2022 Quote
W7LSD Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Im a smisa member but i dont own a share in anything and only communication really other than the odd meeting email im very much in the dark about things that go on at the club. Didnt even know the semi final tickets went on sale till about two hours after it went live. Quote
faraway saint Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 9 hours ago, W7LSD said: Im a smisa member but i dont own a share in anything and only communication really other than the odd meeting email im very much in the dark about things that go on at the club. Didnt even know the semi final tickets went on sale till about two hours after it went live. Ticket sales are nothing to do with SMISA. Quote
lenziebud Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 21 hours ago, kilwinningbuddie said: Thanks for explaining im not a. SMISA member my concern is that we are appointing an untried manager on the recommendation of our recruitment guy when our recruitment has been very poor this season I agree I'd go with McLeish till the end of the season. Players rate him and in the 2 games he has had in charge he has done well. Docherty linked as assistant and I'd go for that although doing fine with the guys we have, do we need another voice ? No to Robinson from me. Park's recruitment of players seems to have dipped over the last few years, never mind a manager. Quote
Mr Optimistic Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 2 hours ago, lenziebud said: I agree I'd go with McLeish till the end of the season. Players rate him and in the 2 games he has had in charge he has done well. Docherty linked as assistant and I'd go for that although doing fine with the guys we have, do we need another voice ? No to Robinson from me. Park's recruitment of players seems to have dipped over the last few years, never mind a manager. I know its all about opinions but I'd love to know what you base this on? Lets be honest most fans knew nothing about Craig McLeish until recently. Players rate him? How do you know that? He has done well? The Rangers game was as bad as we have been all season. Docherty had NO impact at Aberdeen, why would we want him? And Park joined St Mirren in June 2025 but you say his recruitment has dipped over the last few YEARS? He's only been here 8 months. Thank God fans aren't involved with the recruitment of new managers. Lets hope the board know a little more about everyone involved than we do. Quote
lenziebud Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr Optimistic said: I know its all about opinions but I'd love to know what you base this on? Lets be honest most fans knew nothing about Craig McLeish until recently. Players rate him? How do you know that? He has done well? The Rangers game was as bad as we have been all season. Docherty had NO impact at Aberdeen, why would we want him? And Park joined St Mirren in June 2025 but you say his recruitment has dipped over the last few YEARS? He's only been here 8 months. Thank God fans aren't involved with the recruitment of new managers. Lets hope the board know a little more about everyone involved than we do. I'm basing it on the fact that so far McLeish has demonstrated that he can get performances from the player. I thought we were decent against Rangers and deserved a draw. Won at Falkirk. Supposedly senior players have been very impressed by him. Docherty is hugely experienced assistant and did a decent job at Dundee as manager. Aberdeen were a basket case long before Docherty go there. Robinson not done a whole lot so far and has a huge task on his hands If the club is confident in McLeish then let him have the job till end of the season when better managers than Carl Robinson might be available. Park's recruitment at Rangers was poor and since Foyle left the role at SMFC it hasn't been great either. Have a feeling Stephen Robinson wasn't overly happy with him either. Even if we fall into the play off we are more than able to get through them with the squad we have Edited March 24 by lenziebud Quote
Mr Optimistic Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, lenziebud said: I'm basing it on the fact that so far McLeish has demonstrated that he can get performances from the player. I thought we were decent against Rangers and deserved a draw. Won at Falkirk. Supposedly senior players have been very impressed by him. Docherty is hugely experienced assistant and did a decent job at Dundee as manager. Aberdeen were a basket case long before Docherty go there. Robinson not done a whole lot so far and has a huge task on his hands If the club is confident in McLeish then let him have the job till end of the season when better managers than Carl Robinson might be available. Park's recruitment at Rangers was poor and since Foyle left the role at SMFC it hasn't been great either. Even if we fall into the play off we are more than able to get through them with the squad we have Fair enough. We will agree to disagree on Rangers performace and Docherty's credentials. I get Aberdeen were a basket case but he was brought in to help and clearly didn't. Awful at County as well where he lasted less than 4 months. (even Kettlewell has done better 🤣) Lets be honest you don't know that the senior players are impressed with McLeish and you have absolutely no idea what Carl Robinson would bring to the club. Park has brought in Young and Devaney. Both have proved to be better than we have and Young is no where near match fit yet. Etete does look like a mistake and jury is still out on Campbell who was always going to take time to get match ready having had no club since May. I'm not against going with McLeish & Co till the end of the season and I'm not sure I trust this board to get it right but they are in a better position to make a choice than you and me are. Quote
lenziebud Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Fair enough. We will agree to disagree on Rangers performace and Docherty's credentials. I get Aberdeen were a basket case but he was brought in to help and clearly didn't. Awful at County as well where he lasted less than 4 months. (even Kettlewell has done better 🤣) Lets be honest you don't know that the senior players are impressed with McLeish and you have absolutely no idea what Carl Robinson would bring to the club. Park has brought in Young and Devaney. Both have proved to be better than we have and Young is no where near match fit yet. Etete does look like a mistake and jury is still out on Campbell who was always going to take time to get match ready having had no club since May. I'm not against going with McLeish & Co till the end of the season and I'm not sure I trust this board to get it right but they are in a better position to make a choice than you and me are. Aye Docherty credentials have taken a bit of a nosedive but McInnes rated him so that is a plus for him. Not sure we need him to be honest. Young i think was someone that Robinson had on his radar for 2 seasons but I agree with you on him. Devaney is class. Campbell would have been a Robinson signing also ? IMO a good one once up to speed. Having said that Park was outstanding at Celtic. On Carl Robinson I feel his management career is mixed, no experience of Scottish football and I feel we should take our time if the options aren't right. Every appointment is a gamble but for a club like St Mirren its vital. Get it wrong and it Championship and potentially for quite a while. Edited March 24 by lenziebud Quote
Mr Optimistic Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 33 minutes ago, lenziebud said: Aye Docherty credentials have taken a bit of a nosedive but McInnes rated him so that is a plus for him. Not sure we need him to be honest. Young i think was someone that Robinson had on his radar for 2 seasons but I agree with you on him. Devaney is class. Campbell would have been a Robinson signing also ? IMO a good one once up to speed. Having said that Park was outstanding at Celtic. On Carl Robinson I feel his management career is mixed, no experience of Scottish football and I feel we should take our time if the options aren't right. Every appointment is a gamble but for a club like St Mirren its vital. Get it wrong and it Championship and potentially for quite a while. Agree with alot of that. Nice to have an adult conversation and a respectful exchange of views as thats not how this forum normally works as I'm sure you know. Initially I think the plan was to get someone in on the International break but I am wondering if the win at Falkirk has maybe changed that view. We will never know but if Robinson had been in charge I wonder if we would have got the 3 points as it was hard to see where a win was coming from. Still think we are up against it to avoid play off but we are starting to get some players back and legs into others so I'm a little more optimistic than I was last week. One things for sure. If we get out this it won't be the easy way. It NEVER is!!🤣 Quote
lenziebud Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Agree with alot of that. Nice to have an adult conversation and a respectful exchange of views as thats not how this forum normally works as I'm sure you know. Initially I think the plan was to get someone in on the International break but I am wondering if the win at Falkirk has maybe changed that view. We will never know but if Robinson had been in charge I wonder if we would have got the 3 points as it was hard to see where a win was coming from. Still think we are up against it to avoid play off but we are starting to get some players back and legs into others so I'm a little more optimistic than I was last week. One things for sure. If we get out this it won't be the easy way. It NEVER is!!🤣 I think the Falkirk win definitely has a bearing on it. I think there is enough in the squad to avoid play offs. Aberdeen game is massive as 3 points in that game and we can hopefully draw Dundee back in also. That being the case then its down to squad to do the business over the split fixtures. Hard to believe this team turned Motherwell over 4-1 and Celtic 3-1 at Hampden Still think there is more than enough even if we drop into play offs too stay up comfortably but would rather avoid. A lot of work needed in the summer and a big task for the new manager. No Livi next season ! Edited March 24 by lenziebud Quote
faraway saint Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, lenziebud said: I think the Falkirk win definitely has a bearing on it. I think there is enough in the squad to avoid play offs. Aberdeen game is massive as 3 points in that game and we can hopefully draw Dundee back in also. That being the case then its down to squad to do the business over the split fixtures. Hard to believe this team turned Motherwell over 4-1 and Celtic 3-1 at Hampden Still think there is more than enough even if we drop into play offs too stay up comfortably but would rather avoid. A lot of work needed in the summer and a big task for the new manager. No Livi next season ! There's no doubt the second half agast Rangers, who trounced Aberdeen at the weekend and are second in the league, and the win against Falkirk, albeit we got away with it in the first half, have given everyone (players and most of the support) tbe belief we'll get out of the play off position. I've always believed we've enough in the squad but, TBH, never seen us being in the jeopardy were currently in. 😉 Glad Livingston will be away next season and a good move for me with St Johnstone coming up. 👍 Edited March 24 by faraway saint Quote
faraway saint Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 Remember the bad old days when everyone knew the club s business long before it became official? We should be thankful we're in the hands of a professional set of directors who operate as they should. 👍 Quote
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