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7 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said:33 minutes ago, Buddie Marvelous said:
Any old lag in our price range would/will have a failure or two on his CV - how many of the Stubbsy Must Go crowd are being wise after the event?
But it's not the failure that's scary Bud it's the similarities of that failure. It's as if he'd learned nothing from it.
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1 minute ago, Bud the Baker said:
That is my worry too, an expensive pay off followed by another poor appointment and that's the McGinn money gone. I see no point in sacking Stubbs (and his team?) before mid-November when if we do go for the Apocalyptic Option the new guy would have December to assess the squad before the next window opens. We're still better off than we were at this stage in DLs last season.
Any old lag in our price range would/will have a failure or two on his CV - how many of the Stubbsy Must Go crowd are being wise after the event?
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Things have gone pear-shaped since the Dundee game but I've yet to be convinced that sacking Stubbs is the best option. On the signings front Ryan Edwards has plenty of top flight experience as does failed target Kenny Miller so maybe Stubbsy's learned a bit.
Contracts nowadays have various clauses in them to protect both parties. I would be really surprised if we would have to pay a hefty sum to get rid.
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Alan what's the difference between a marquee and a dome?
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Alan, When clowns fart do they smell funny?
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5 minutes ago, Drew said:
I don't compare him to others either. Let's face it, we don't need to.
This is his squad, and it clearly isn't good enough. He knows that we lost our best player at the end of last season in Lewis Morgan, yet he hasn't even recruited anyone to the position of left mid. That is indefensible. Utter madness. Even the fundamentals are missing.
Not only is his squad totally unbalanced, but his man management seems to leave a hell of a lot to be desired having told a number of players (who we still have on our books) that they weren't wanted after being at the club for little more than a fortnight. I'm all for a new manager stamping his identity on his new post, and making required changes, but it isn't unreasonable to expect that these changes would be improvements.
For a man who played in Scotland and has managed a club here previously, he seems to have very limited understanding of what is required to survive much less succeed.
Anyway, I'm saying nothing that hasn't been said before, on numerous occasions, so probably best now to simply wait and see what transpires. I just hope it can be as painless as possible.
I think the post from the Rotherham fan says it all really. The similarities are scary.
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QuoteI do see and feel your sense of frustration at Alan Stubbs.
Us at Rotherham were upset by his appointment as we wanted an experienced manager (we turned down Gary Bowyer, Steve Mclaren and Tony Mowbray).
He brought in players who were substandard and the chairman even said he was worried about the new signings. He let both Leon Best and Matt Derbyshire go and took an eternity to bring in the ageing Dexter Blackstock. On a THREE year contract that the chairman had to pay up. He had no connection with the fans. He always sat on the bench during the game and let assistant John Doolan do the talking. There was a huge cheer when he decided to do some managing from the sides.
He said after his last game that the players are told the same things and dont listen so he is either confusing them or they dont want to know.
We paid him off after 5 months around 350 k and Doolan went too. The team was that bad that next manager Kenny Jacket walked after 5 games.
So yes he is not management or a people person.
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At the end of July we had a question and answer session with Alan Stubbs. If the session was to be tonight, what would your question be?
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2 hours ago, JJ McG said:
Trust your old da, the end is near
WHAT A SHAMBLES A NEW GUY HAS TO COME INTO.
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2 hours ago, JJ McG said:
Trust your old da, the end is near
Found yae. You owe £20k in maintenance.
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Thanks for that insight chez-RUFC. Not very reassuring I agree but we still need to get behind Alan at least until Christmas. My understanding is that the Rotherham fans like the Saints fans did not give him the support from day one. Reap what you sow maybe. Eh?
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Watched the Hearts game back this morning. It was worse than watching it the first time around!
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......Anyway, Stubbs should go
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Just now, magnus said:
What time is it? I'm starving. Would have been tea time but now dinner.
Sweetie time. I'm putting the kettle on the noo.
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2 minutes ago, magnus said:
Top drawer. You must have been very rich. Very pricy. I used to buy one for my maw's birthday.
II remember rightly it was somebody's maws birthday present I ate.
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The list is endless. The good old days indeed.
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2 minutes ago, magnus said:
Oooh man now we are talking !
I was a chocy fan. My favorite was Old Jamaca rum and raisin. mmmm
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6 minutes ago, magnus said:
Cola Cubes addictive and fortunately still available. Perhaps the jaggiest sweeties in the world.
Cola cubes and Pineapple cubes.
Like sucking flavoured razor blades!
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3 minutes ago, windae cleaner said:
Olde England flavor my fave
Hated the bloody things. Always cut my mouth. the only thing worse was freggin cola cubes!!
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2 hours ago, JJ McG said:
What info? You don’t half get your knickers in a twist for Christ sake.
My opinion is he won’t last long at all, something is clearly wrong behind the scenes, it’s absolutely toxic, you would have to be an absolute muppet not to see that.
Where did they budget go we had set aside for bringing in Miller? All of a sudden we had to ship players out before we brought anybody else in?
Stubbs blaming everybody but himself in his interviews, the writing is on the wall.
What are you talking about JJ ? Surely everything is rosey?
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11 hours ago, Kemp said:
GLS is nothing but a propery specualtor. He is an idiot in proper business and has been made a mug of.
A little bit more than a property speculator Kemp. He started up and sold Laidlaw Scott Construction. He is reportedly worth £9.2 million
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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/7-st-mirren-manager-candidates-12591284
Interesting to note that A poll of those top 7 managers, (at the time), Alan Stubbs came out second last!
Robbie Nelson..........36%
Jim Goodwin.............13%
David Hopkin.............13%
Graham Murty...........12%
Jim McKintyre...........11%
Alan Stubbs.................9%
Danny Lennon...........6%
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This was Daniel Morrow's run down on what was thought to be the top 7 managers to replace Jack Ross....
(as most are still being touted)
Robbie Neilson
Neilson’s successes at Hearts, alongside his intent for his team to play with an emphasis on a free-flowing passing game is likely to excite the Buddies. Following automatic promotion from the Scottish Championship ahead of Hibernian and a substantially wealthier Rangers side, Neilson led the Edinburgh side to the Europa League in his first season in the top flight. His success led to a spell with MK Dons and following a poor spell of one win in 11 matches, Neilson left the club by mutual consent earlier this year.
Verdict
His record in Scotland speaks for itself, but his eagerness to have a crack at a so-called greater opportunity may lead to him using the club as a potential stepping stone if he performs well.
Jim Goodwin
Goodwin is regarded as a legend following the club’s League Cup victory in 2013. After an ill-fated spell as coach at St Mirren, Goodwin has made a post-playing career recovery by taking Alloa back up to the Championship. His side defeated Dumbarton in the promotion play-off, where they recovered from a goal down in the first leg, winning 2-1 on aggregate. That fighting spirit is reminiscent of his days as a Saints player – the fans will be hoping that he can carry his playing success into management.
Verdict
Likely to win immediate backing from supporters given his stature as a player, but his lack of experience in the dugout is a risk. The budget any manager is likely to receive will be less so than the majority of the league, so fighting spirit in the opening season may work in Saints favour.
Alan Stubbs
Led Hibernian to Scottish Cup victory for the first time in 114 years, but was unable to secure promotion from the Scottish Championship in the two years he spent as manager. Upon securing the Scottish Cup, Stubbs left Hibs to join Rotherham United for a short spell, where he managed just one victory in 14 games, conceding 37 goals. Since this role, he has appeared regularly on BT Sport as a pundit.
Verdict
His success in the Scottish Cup is hard to argue against, but lacks the same charisma of Jack Ross which should make him unlikely to make the shortlist.
David Hopkin
Unlucky not to be nominated for PFA Scotland’s Manager of the Year given his achievements at Livingston. Following promotion from Scottish League One, Livingston were among the favourites to be relegated at the beginning of the 2017/18 season. However, Hopkin instilled a high work ethic amongst his players and boasted an incredibly strong January transfer window, signing the likes of Jordan Thompson, Ryan Hardie and Lee Miller who all proved vital in the run in to the play-offs.
Verdict
Likely to be of interest to various other clubs, with Carlisle rumoured to be speaking to him about their vacancy. His achievements are undeniable, but would he leave Livingston for another Premiership club given the backing the board have given him?
Jim McIntyre
Been out of work since September of last year, and many have claimed his sacking led to Ross County’s fall into the Scottish Championship. McIntyre’s recent credentials are strong, having guided the Highland side to League Cup victory, winning the club’s first major honour in 2016. In the same season, McIntyre took the club to their first top-six finish in the top flight. Additionally, he previously led Dunfermline into the top flight in the 2010/11 and has steered Queen of the South to the play-offs.
Verdict
Has expressed his eagerness to return to football, and with a CV such as this, it will not be long before he finds himself back in work. However, has had issues with continuity in his squad, which is reflected upon the fact he signed 49 new players in his three years as County manager.
Danny Lennon
Another club legend having led to St Mirren to their first major honour in 26 years. Lennon’s contract was not renewed by Saints in 2014 after the club finished eighth in the Scottish Premiership. His brand of football was lauded by critics up and down Scotland for their positive style. Following a poor spell at Alloa Athletic and an interim period at Airdrieonians, Lennon is currently the boss at Clyde, where his side were unlucky to miss out on the promotion play-offs.
Verdict
The League Cup win in 2013 will forever live in the memory of Saints fans, however it is likely Lennon will attempt to give David Goodwillie a shortcut back into the top flight following a 20+ goal season with Clyde. Given Goodwillie’s off-field antics, St Mirren should certainly avoid. As for Lennon, many will feel he should never have been sacked in the first place
Graeme Murty
Took over Rangers when the club were in a dire situation as a result of the failed Pedro Caixinha experiment. Rangers ended this season finishing third, with Murty leading the club for the majority of it. Graeme Murty was relieved of his head coaching duties in April but remains a paid employee of the club. Rangers expressed in a statement that they were willing for him to return to the club as youth coach, but right now this seems unlikely.
Verdict
Would be an complete step in the wrong direction for St Mirren. In a season where the club mostly needs stability in order to survive, the last thing they need is a manager with a short history of instability.
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My god u two sharing a bed. Despair away
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Stubbs Must Go
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That’s it! Fkn shambles!
Give Alan Stubbs A Chance
in General St. Mirren Discussion
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To wind us up.