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Posts posted by Dirty Sanchez
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"That fitba team goat relegated, and naebody leaves here till we fun oot whit c*nt done it".
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This is just ridiculous. How they managed to get relegated from the comfortable position they were in, firstly in the league, and then in the play off, is inexcusable. If ever there was situation where heads deserved to roll this is it.
I'm thrilled it was that arsehole Kevin Thomson who missed the vital kick. One of the most all round despicable wankers ever to set foot on a pitch.
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Just watching the other game from Cappielow that season (31 mins in the video), even Gilmour looks to be pointing and laughing at the state of the Morton players chasing after the linesman claiming the ball wasn't over the line for that first goal.
Even from this low resolution video you can see how far over the line it is. Goalkeeper Ally Maxwell's feet are already both over the line when reaches backwards (ooh err) to claw the ball out, so he must have known more than anyone in the stadium that it was a goal, yet he was the one leading the furious Benny Hill style chase of the officials.
Losers.
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Another of the clubs who epitomised everything that was wrong with the SPL deservedly left to squirm in the wilderness for another year.
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We have a high caliber of midfielders (to many) and he was at the end of the queue
Although the calibre is all relative, there's actually plenty of truth in this. One of Danny's failings was how unbalanced the squad was, where we had a dearth of strikers, a defence that was no more than adequade (in strength and depth), yet we had a (relative) embarrassment or riches in attacking midfielders. We've had guys on the bench/injured all season who would have strolled into the starting line up and been key players a few years back.
On that note, Danny tried to build the midfield around Gary Harkins, and we had a historically bad start to the season. I think, after six games, it was our worst start to a season, ever. E.g. he was playing McGowan deep to accommodate Harkins, and not playing McGinn at all. The idea of John McGinn being left out of the team for anyone is, of course, laughable now.
Here's the key part if anyone wants to know why Gary Harkins wasn't getting a game for St Mirren.
Unfortunately for Harkins, there is a clear correlation between that horror run ending, and him not playing any more.
In his seven starts when the midfield was built around him, we had one draw and six defeats.
As soon as he was dropped, that run ended, and we lost one of the next ten games.
What's the manager going to do? Start playing him again, and make him the main man again?
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I have to say I still really don't like Fraser Wright. A hard tackling, battling, no nonsense defender but a horrible big runt of a man. Almost Paul Hartley esq in dislikability.
Indeed, but in his favour, he did appear to be rubbing Ciftci's nose right in it in the dying moments after the big tosser had committed a dummy spitting, loser's type foul.
I'm still not prepared to overlook that niggling prick shoving Sir Thommo of Hawk before the game had even started at Tannadice, while Thommo was waiting to take centre, for no other reason than just to be big niggling prick.
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Again selective of your recollection of events.
Firstly that season we finished 8th out of 10th (almost relegated)
Another 7 points would have put us in 3rd place. (based on results we were never going to achieve it)
After we replaced Roy with Hillcoat our run of results improved for the season. Hillcoat was more than a replacement for Roy at the time.
Also Hendrie was not sacked until the following season.
You seem to have a habit of spouting information and passing it off as fact
To back this up, Raith came to Love Street near the end of that season, and had we lost the match we would have been 2 points off the bottom with 5 games left. Hillcoat was undoubtedly man of the match, and we sneaked a 1-0 win.
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I noticed that there was also an enclave of them in Irvine, on my way back from Kilmarnock.
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FFS, some of that had me pining for that home game against St.Johnstone a few weeks back.
My decision not to spend the second half trying to count the dead pixels on the scoreboard now looks to be a poor one.
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Not sure what Boyd was doing gurning up at us after he scored. If I was him I wouldn't give a monkey's f**k about St Mirren. With no real history of niggle it takes a special brand of dobber to react like that. Michae Moore-esque. Remember that tool?
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On another note, I hope the old bill are prepared properly for Saturday, cos I've got a feeling the Hearts fans may try to invade the pitch.
I'd settle for the same outcome as when they last invaded our pitch. The 5-2 win in McAvennie's last game, on the final day of the 84/5 season.
I always remember that one of the invaders was a burd in a tight, bright yellow polo neck, sporting big jiggling diddies as she ran. With the passing of 30 years it's probably best that she doesn't give a repeat performance on Saturday.
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That result tonight means a point at Killie and we can finish no lower than 8th.
And a win just about guarantees us 7th place, unless Partick can win both their matches and turn around the goal difference too.
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97th season in the top league coming up.
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What was the crowd?
2646
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1985....Premier League....H....SMFC 1 Dumbarton 0.
http://www.stmirrenprogrammes.co.uk/StMirren/STM_Match_Details.php?Season=1984&GameID=2094
Saints goalscorer........Peter Godfrey........
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/09/07/fawlty_towers_396x222.jpg
Talk about pish attendances, look at the crowd from this game.
We were chasing a European place at the time and had won 4-0 at Easter Road the previous week. Not to meantion that we beat Hearts 5-2 the following week to clinch the UEFA spot.
That game also officially relegated Dumbarton who had put together a monumental collapse after looking safe, and thus saving a totally rank rotten Hibs team from the drop.
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Found the same figures Andysaint, this with the reductions the clubs agreed, don't know how accurate it is right enough.
Premiership
1 £2,405,000 (-£315,000)
2 £1,718,000 (-£682,000)
3 £1,460,000 (-£60,000)
4 £1,289,000 (-£71,000)
5 £1,203,000 (-£77,000)
6 £1,117,000 (-£83,000)
7 £1,057,000 (-£63,000)
8 £1,005,000 (-£35,000)
9 £988,000 (+£28,000)
10 £902,000 (+£22,000)
11 £816,000 (+£16,000)
12 £730,000 (+£10,000)
I've seen those figures before, and they are a projection for this season's money based on an estimated total prize pool of £18m. F*ck knows what the prize pool actually is, though.
You can tell right away that they are not the old figures because there isn't a yawning chasm between 2nd and 3rd.
i.e. the old system was deliberately set up so that the former Old Firm kept all the money. Prize money increased by 0.5% of the pot per league position, then took a massive jump of 5.5% between 3rd and 2nd places, which was why it was so incredibly lucrative for any team to manage the unlikely feat of splitting Rangers and Celtic.
The new system doesn't have the big jump between 3rd and 2nd.
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Getting relegated is hardly our specialised subject. Only went down 3 times since i started attending in the late 1960's.
And only 5 times. Ever.
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I must admit, I've been trawling Google images seeking pictures of Derek Adams looking annoyed or upset, and then laughing at them.
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Even if Killie get the win at Tynecastle, a Hibs win over Ross County on Tuesday still sees us safe before we next kick a ball.
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Derek Adams was also guilty of shameful cowardice, in the manner in which he quickly nipped down the tunnel at the end of the game, before I had a chance to get down the stairs to hurl a torrent of abuse at him.
It was a ghost-like disappearance.
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The rank patter from their fans was f*cking cringeworthy at times as well.
What a bunch of mutants.
Also, 3 bus loads when their club laid on free transport? We took 40 (forty) buses to Dens Park when our board footed the bill.
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If we win and Killie lose at Tynecastle, Killie can only catch us by winning their last two games.
With that in mind, looking at Hibs v Thistle:
If Thistle win, both Hibs and Killie can't catch us. Killie have no choice but to win out, and if they did, Hibs could only get 37 points.
If Hibs win, they would still need a point from their game with Ross County to catch us on goal difference (assuming that Hibs are going to lose to Killie, which they need to for Killie to catch us). If Hibs take any more than a point from Dingwall, it means that Ross County can't catch us. If Ross County get the point from Hibs, it means they'll then have to beat Thistle, which means that Thistle couldn't catch us.
If Hibs v Thistle is a draw (assuming Hibs lose to Killie), Hibs could only go above us on goal difference by beating Ross County, which means that Ross County couldn't catch us.
Simple
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The Hibs v Thistle game is irrelevant.
If we win on Saturday and Killie lose, we are 100% safe.
This is correct.
You can take our word for it, or you can view my next post where I'll show my working.
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This now means that Hibs and Hearts both have more relegations than us since the Premier League started.
Us 2
Hibs 3
Hearts 4
That would come as a surprise to the many who associate us with relegation and nothing else.