Gordy 1877
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3 hours ago, gazmc83 said:
Apparently an ex St Mirren defender as assistant ( not Goodwin )
John Potter maybe?
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Didn't even get a mention on the bbc news that we had parted company with our manager, have we become that insignificant? It appears Joey Barton's petty squabbles are more important. So with that in mind, let's get behind the team and new manager whoever it may be and get us back where we belong! COYS.
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17 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:
Don't agree with that Gordy.
I have had a season ticket for the family stand since our first full season there.
On the very rare occasion there has been a good atmosphere throughout the ground, the atmosphere in the family stand has been as good as anywhere else.
For me, the two main contributory factors to the lack of atmosphere are the lack of entertainment ON the pitch allied to reserved seating throughout the whole stadium.
You're probably right there as far as the atmosphere being as good as anywhere else, and I agree the main problem is the product on the pitch.
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2 hours ago, shull said:
We can bring back the atmosphere by allowing you to swear?
No, that's not what I mean. Having sat behind the goals since we built the stand at love street there has been a significant change in the atmosphere there, it definitely has to do with it being made a family stand. I know there's been a change all over the ground, I accept that.
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8 hours ago, pod said:
It's the one place where parents can take their kids and not have to listen to a torrent of foul language. It's not like we're filling the stadium.
I use to go to the South Stand with my boy until he started swearing,
now we go to the main stand. 
Exactly, the stadium is not full. At love street the family enclosure was a good idea, perhaps the section at the far end of the main stand could be used? I realise it might mean relocating some season ticket holders but it might bring back a bit of the love street atmosphere and help the team. Just now it's too easy for teams coming to us.
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12 hours ago, Dave The Buddie said:
As a St Mirren supporter for the last 36 years I don't think there has been a time where I have been less interested in my beloved team. I was a season ticket holder with my son for about 10 years but decided to give it up as it became a chore for us to go along to the games.
I went to about 6 games last year and not only was the atmosphere flat but the style of football was awful. Now don't get me wrong if it was down to entertaining style of football I would not be a St Mirren supporter as we have been some horrendous periods of football but I remember Danny Lennon's 2nd season in charge where we concentrated on possession football. I loved it and couldn't wait until the next game even though we certainly didn't win every game but we tried to play football. Now am seeing direct and long ball football because our manager does not think the players have the skill set to play football. Well forgive me if am speaking out of turn but surely professional footballers can play possession football if not they shouldn't be professional.
I thought maybe with the fans takeover and Gordon Scott coming on board it would bring the whole place alive and bring everyone together but it hasn't so far IMO. I know it's early days but there seems to be more division then ever going with comments on this forum.
I know of other fans that think this but for probably the first time ever I woke up on the match day and had no idea who we were playing. I am getting used to staying in and watching all the football on TV and watching the scores come in. Like am sure many supporters some that follow religiously and some like myself who have sporadically went to games recently out of guilt that I won't be a St Mirren fan if I don't go to a game want to feel enthusiastic about my team again.
I don't know if the board, management team or fans can help as I believe a whole generation of Saints fans could be lost and as for young St Mirren supporters coming through we will lose them to other social activities.
Phew and breathe.
Thoughts?
100% agree. It appears very little is being done to make us proud to be St Mirren fans again. Meanwhile Tony Fitz and Campbell Kennedy are having a laugh at the prolife, one looking for a bird the other finding it hilarious he's never been in a gym before. Our club are in good hands. http://www.saintmirren.net/pages/?p=58040
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On 16 September 2016 at 2:10 PM, Stu said:
As well as it pissing off our own fans, there's also the cost aspect. I'd assumed away fans were put in the West Stand because it was cheaper than opening up a whole stand. On Saturday we had the cost of stewarding the away section of the west stand and opening up what is normally the away end - and to folk with free tickets, so it wasn't as if we were raking in extra cash. Why couldn't the free ticket folk be put in the south stand? Perhaps this could be used as an example if the club claim they put the away fans in the west stand to save cash.
Of course, Saturday was all part of the brilliant plan to have Saints fans in both stands behind the goals to roar the team on to victory. We should focus on filling three stands before worrying about a fourth. I'd even go further and have the south stand closed for games against the likes of Queens, Ayr etc because there's nowhere near enough home fans at the moment. You'd really only need it for the derbies and maybe Hibs and Dundee United.
Remember there are season ticket holders in the south stand too. I agree about the treatment of fans in the west stand, but I think it goes deeper than that, it's treatment of fans in general. Remember the fiasco with rangers getting the south stand, kicking out season ticket holders from there? We are all in many ways taken for granted, if my sums are correct, my last 3 season tickets, including this season, have meant I have paid roughly £103 per win. So the club should be doing all it can to encourage more fans and reward those who are loyal, so I agree that the QoS fans shouldn't have been put in there. The south stand is dying because it's the family stand. A club our size should have a family section, not a stand. It must be the only home ground in the country where the home goalie gets a hard time, and the away one never does because he gets an easy ride at both ends of the ground. The south stand has effectively put a gagging order on the home fans while the weans scream "he fell over". The love street end used to be a great place to sit, and stand before that.
On the free tickets. The schools got the word document to print as a voucher on the Wednesday, and the parent had to have it redeemed by Thursday at 2pm. While I agree with the initiative, it was either poorly thought out or deliberately designed to limit the numbers because that gives very little time to turn it around. The schools also had to print the vouchers, so that didn't come out the clubs budget either. So the whole thing is not exactly the way to attract more support.
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1 hour ago, SuperSaints 12 said:
Saints continue to wait for their first win of the league season after losing to Queen of the South. Manager Alex Rae gives his thoughts.
He said: “We’re obviously in a difficult place. We’re conceding goals with considerable ease at the moment and it’s not the young ones, it’s the senior ones who are causing the problems. Unfortunately we’re making it very difficult for ourselves. We equalised and we allow them to just waltz up the pitch unopposed and get a tap in. It’s extremely disappointing.
“We created a couple of chances in the first half where their keeper pulled off a couple of decent saves. We need to remain positive. When I was at Dundee, we started the season exactly the same the opening five games without a win and we finished third so we know we can turn it round.”
Today’s results means Saints are now bottom of the table and the fans made their displeasure known during and after the match. The manager added: “I can understand people’s frustration, I’m as frustrated as anyone. This has got nothing to do with tactics, this is purely down to individuals who, unfortunately, are crumbling under a bit of pressure.”
They're his players, under his direction day in day out, it's high time he took some responsibility here and left.
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9 hours ago, div said:
I generally pick and choose my away games these days as frankly other than the social side of it I haven't enjoyed watching St.Mirren very much in the last 3 years.
I was there on Saturday and I didn't enjoy much of the 90 minutes, and I left Somerset pretty despondant.
On Sunday though I watched the highlights again and I looked for some positives.
Personally I think the new shape has some legs in it. The 3-4-1-2 formation offers us more protection in the middle of defence and allows us to play three of our attacking players.
I thought it looked better on Saturday, particularly in the second half when we started to get the ball down and play.
We were without MacKenzie, Gordon, Quinn, Gallagher and Morgan on Saturday. That's five players most of whom might be expected to start in a full strength side. The manager has bought in a fair few players but we're still operating with a 20 man first team squad. Take 25% of those players out and we're going to struggle and so we are.
The international break is coming at a good time for us. The Albion Rovers match will surely see Gordon and MacKenzie play, and we also have a 20s game tomorrow against ICT where they can get game time. I feel MacKenzie in particular will be a big addition for us. Hopefully he'll provide the leadership we're sorely lacking. Quinn will also hopefully be on the road to recovery by the time QoS come to visit.
The manager came in last season and made us harder to beat. In the summer he's assembled his own squad and whilst it hasn't quite happened for him yet I personally see no reason to even think about sacking him after 4 league games.
Confidence in football is massive. If we can get a win under our belts the players will start playing with a bit more belief and start passing the ball more. At the moment some of them look a bag of nerves and that is why they are shelling it. It's an easy option.
I remain confident that we will get those wins soon and start moving up the table. Keep the faith and all that!
He really should've signed an additional central midfield player, especially when operating with a small squad. I understand loaning shankland and/or hardie, but not both. Perhaps I'm doing him an injustice and the right person wasn't available, we'll never know.
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4 hours ago, Dibbles old paperboy said:
Home many home league wins did Tommy Craig, Ian Murray and Gary Teale achieve during their 18 months in charge... and how many has Alex Rae had in about 6 months of league football at Greenhill Road?
Craig/Teale 3, Murray 1, Rae 4. My point was that the apathy around the place goes back longer than Alex Raes tenure, so there is greater urgency for things to be put right. I wasn't comparing their managerial records. However, right now feels the same as our previous 2 starts.
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At similar points in the previous 2 seasons, I thought we'd be going nowhere other than downwards should we persist with the then managers. I was proven right, and I feel no different now despite being encouraged by our mini-revival last season under Rae. Can anyone see where we'll get a league win from? If I'm right we've had 8 home league wins in the last 2 years, that's why st Mirren park is like a morgue and it's completely unacceptable, the new board need to pay attention to that and sort this out one way or another.
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Paper formate? Performance that should say.
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I was optimistic heading into this season because Alex Rae stabilised the team after Ian Murray, and he had a preseason to sign his own players and get the team playing the way he wants. The thing is I'm not sure he knows what he wants. The players look like they've never played together, unsure of them selves, and look downright fed up. They effectively stole a wage against Hibs because that paper formate was awful, not helped by the fact the manager stated that we "competed" in the second half. Are you kidding me? If that's competing in his eyes then we're Donald ducked!
There is also no leader on the park and that not helping, we need someone to take the ball and have the confidence to do something with it. For me our main issue (I know there are many) is central midfield. Hutton is a passenger, as a result Mallan knows if he goes forward we're in trouble, so we have nothing in the final 3rd. Neither he or Hutton have the confidence to take the ball off the back 3/4 because there is little movement ahead if them to play a pass, nor do the back 3/4 want to play the ball in there for fear of it coming right back at them. As a result we go long, and none of our defenders have the ability to find a player upfield. Baird and Naismith are experts at picking out guys in the stand. Now I wasn't at Ayr yesterday but was slightly encouraged by the fact that we had 3 players in the middle if the park, perhaps this suggests that the manager is trying to address the problem...I hope.
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'One town, one team' is the slogan I believe, but apparently only when it suits to promote us that way. If it were true this decision should've been done by vote from those season ticket holders in the south stand, put all the facts on the table and allow us supporters to make the call and feel valued. Gilmour should be looking after his loyal customers, us. I'm absolutely sickened by this.
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Brand new team. Sadly it's probably going to get worse, if that's possible, before it gets better.
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Their tactics from the start were awful. Trying to get players booked, faking injury etc. That 'tackle' was disgusting. Sadly none of it disguises the fact that we were not good enough again.
Jack Ross Must Go.
in General St. Mirren Discussion
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Ridiculous to even suggest sacking Jack Ross at this stage. Give the guy time. If we go down, and it still is an if, he should be allowed to build his own team and try to get us back up again. St Mirren need stability.