J.M.
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Hi, remember Fraser Wishart? Could you tell me what positions he played in when he was with St.Mirren?
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Second part:
22 - Ian Cameron - LM-CM
19 - Gardner Speirs - LM
18 - Brian Gallagher - CF-LW
18 - Tommy Wilson - RB
16 - Paul Chalmers - CF
15 - Kenny McDowall - CF
12 - David Winnie - CD-LB
6 - Gary Peebles - CM
4 - Doug Bell - CM
1 - Norrie McWhirter - CD
1 - Barney Duffy - GK
1 - Les Fridge - GKGoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking MidfielderRight Midfielder,Left Midfielder
Right Winger,Left Winger
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38 minutes ago, Slarti said:
Maybe I've misunderstood what you are trying to say, but Stevie Clarke never played in the 87 Cup Final, he was at Chelsea by then. He was there watching it, though, and on the Town Hall balcony.It is not the 11 of the cup final, it is the 86/87 season squad in order of games played as starters.
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These are the players and their matches as starters in the Scottish championship of the winning team of the Scottish Cup in 1987 and the playing positions where I pigeonhole them.
Part One - Top 11 in Starting Appearances
42 - Campbell Money - GK
39 - Neil Cooper - CD-DM
38 - Frank McGarvey - CF
37 - Peter Godfrey - CD
36 - Derek Hamilton - LB
35 - Ian Ferguson - CM
28 - Billy Abercromby - DM-LB
26 - Brian Hamilton - DM
24 - Paul Lambert - CM
23 - Steve Clarke - RB-CD
23 - Tony Fitzpatrick - DMGoalKeeper, Right Back, Central Defender, Left Back,
Defensive Midfielder, Central Midfielder, Attacking MidfielderRight Winger,Left Winger
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Paul Kinnaird - Does anyone remember him playing for St.Mirren?
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One question, what kind of midfielder was Tony Fitzpatrick?
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Greetings, a question about players that I think all played on the left side, Gardner Speirs was a left midfielder, Ian Cameron also although I think in this case he also did it as a central midfielder, and Paul Kinnaird was more a left winger, is right?
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1 hour ago, J.M. said:
so that three-man attack would be just three forwards, but not as a center forward and two wingers.
Or it would be rather, two center forwards (Gallagher, McDowall, McGarvey or Chalmers) and an attacking midfielder behind them Lambert or Ferguson and then we would be talking about these players being more attacking at the beginning of his sports career??
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16 minutes ago, Yflab said:
Gall and the Monk as wingers? Are you having a 😂
so that three-man attack would be just three forwards, but not as a center forward and two wingers.
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2 hours ago, Sue Denim said:
86/87 was a long season with 44 league games plus the cups and there was a change of manager half way through. A whole lost of players were used and formations tried. It was probably the first time I’d ever seen us without more or less a settled 13/14 players who’d be used throughout the season.
Ian Ferguson didn’t arrive until a few games into the season and we initially had Dougie Bell on loan in midfield. Tony Fitzpatrick was still a regular as well as was Gardner Speirs until he got injured.
Paul Lambert actually started the season playing as a striker alongside McGarvey with Brian Gallagher playing wide in a 4-3-3.
Steve Clarke started the season in central defence but was switched to right back just before Chelsea signed him. My suspicion is that he was switched to right back to allow Chelsea to see him there before signing him. Once he left then Neil Cooper replaced him. Peter Godfrey has been the centre half but got injured and was replaced by David Winnie who had been playing left back. Derek Hamilton then came back into the side at left back. Tommy Wilson was the right back for most of the season.
Miller reverted to 4-4-2 with Ian Ferguson in midfield and Ian Cameron coming into the side wide left after Speirs was injured.
Paul Chalmers also arrived to play up front.
Billy Abercromby played a few games at left back that season and was then suspended for 12 games have his triple sending off against Motherwell.
Alex Smith switched to 4-3-3 in the latter part of the season. Paul Chalmers scored twice in the cup win at Cappielow but after he got injured, Smith pushed Ian Ferguson up front. Abercromby came back into the side from suspension and replaced the injured Fitzpatrick in midfield.
The midfield 3 in the cup final were Hamilton, Abercromby and Lambert with McGarvey, McDowall and Ferguson up front.
So, Brian Gallagher and Kenny McDowall could play wingers too? McGarvey and Chalmers as center forwards?
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46 minutes ago, Sue Denim said:
We made some blunders in the transfer market at the start of that season.
Sold Billy Stark to Aberdeen very cheaply and before freedom of contract and signed striker Rowan Alexander. Possibly Ricky McFarlane’s thinking was that McAvennie would assume the attacking midfield role but Alex Miller decided, quite rightly, that he was a striker when he arrived.
And we swapped Lex Richardson for another striker, Eric Sinclair, who I think played once.....
In the 86/87 season the Saints would use a 4-3-3 scheme, with the midfielders who played the most as starters Billy Abercromby, Paul Lambert and Ian Ferguson? being Abercromby the one who did a more defensive job? .... although he also played many games as a starter Brian Hamilton who I think was also a defensive-style midfielder.
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With Ian Ferguson we would be facing a case similar to Lambert's, that is to say, over the years they are remembered as more defensive players but that in their first years, both in St.Mirren, they were more creative players than defenders?
Would Billy Abercromby be in charge of performing more defensive tasks in the center of the field? I think he could also play in defense, could it be?
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Paul Lambert played most of his sports career as a defensive central midfielder, in his early years in the saints did he also play in that position?
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Greetings, Good morning, I wanted to ask about former club players, especially from the 86/87 season, I'm interested in knowing their positions on the pitch, starting with the following players:
* Steve Clarke - Right full-back
* Peter Godfrey - Central Defender
* Neil Cooper - Central Defender, Defensive Midfielder
* Derek Hamilton - Left Full-backit is right? will you help me?
Fraser Wishart
in General St. Mirren Discussion
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if I know that he was in several teams, although where he played the most was in Motherwell and St.Mirren, and then in the end in Clydebank, it seems that in St.Mirren he did not leave a good memory.