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doakie

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  1. Absolutely no apology needed, mate, although I do appreciate your reply. Be assured I wasn't offended as I was confident it was a misunderstanding. We are all in this together and, while I acknowledge that some posters are flippant or sarcastic, I'm certain that most of us who hold differing opinions on here would get on like a house on fire in person. Yes, I agree that It can sometimes be difficult to interpret the intent behind posts - that's just the nature of debating online and not face to face - the typed word isn't as subtle as the spoken word and all that. Agreed, I absolutely want us to flourish. Tomorrow? Needless to say, I'll enjoy it so much more if we win. Time for bed!
  2. I suspect there's a misunderstanding here, W6er. I didn't suggest that you do anything at all. I simply said "Over to you, W7" in reply to your quote - meaning that the guys in W7, our singing/drumming area of are often the most vocal fans. I offered no opinion whatsoever on what you should do. No spat, no confrontation, no trolling - merely an observation about W7 and how they might be the guys who, as you suggested, could organise demonstrations, hold up banners, etc.
  3. https://www.stmirren.com/club/contacting-st-mirren/club-directory It's just been pointed out to me that we have two non-executive directors, Gavin Whyte and John Melrose. I had no idea we had non-executive directors. Can anyone shed any light on this?
  4. On the ball again, Animal. Every single point you make is accurate, some of which seems to have been forgotten by some of our fanbase. I checked your link and wonder whatever happened to Ronnie McGinlay? (For those of you who have forgotten or haven’t checked out the link - he was, apparently, a St.Mirren fan and one of the original Kibble directors who was placed onto our board however he quickly disappeared from view to be replaced by a Celtic fan). I wonder why he left the club so quickly? I wonder why the former general manager (and Kibble employee) David Jamieson left so quickly? The AGM being delayed - yet again - is a major source of concern to me but I've no doubt that those ill-informed Kibble supporters on this forum will claim that it's not important. It is extremely important. Word has already leaked that the AGM may be held by Zoom in an attempt for two directors to escape face to face scrutiny. One contributor laughably claimed on another thread that it’s not important for Kibble directors to attend. Do not be fooled - we can easily have a public AGM and still stick to Covid guidelines. For example, most of you will remember Stewart Gilmour hosting a public debate over Rangers going into administration in the main stand. There were hundreds in attendance so that indicates that there there's no need for a Zoom based AGM thus no need for the Kibble directors to fail to attend in person, as they have previously failed to do. Every single director has a moral duty to face the shareholders! I have been saying for months that our training ground not being fit for purpose was totally unacceptable and I’m certain that the manager and his staff would agree. No debate - it's unacceptable. However, but I also heard the story that planning permission for the building work has only recently been applied for and given. I can't prove it so no need to come on here demanding evidence - which is the clarion call for some of the Kibble employees, I mean, Saints fans on this forum but that is irrelevant. Completely irrelevant because the important point, which is a matter of fact and is undeniable, is that the building work is incomplete! AND WE’RE IN DECEMBER!!! Let that sink in – our highly paid, professional footballers are getting changed at Greenhill Road and driving to the training ground, doing their work in all weathers and then driving back to the stadium to clean up. Professional standards? I think not! I agree with Animal, let's back the manager, the players and each other, including our chairman (who, don't forget, has had his case dealt with, having been fined and disciplined by the authorities). Let’s unite to weed out those who do not have the club's best interest at heart, including, dare I say, the current general manager, yet another Kibble employee whose loyalty undoubtedly lies with Kibble and not St.Mirren. For the record, I won’t be answering those who cast aspersions on the validity of this post or those who demand proof of the content. I am simply asking rhetorical questions and providing what I believe to be accurate information to keep the fans up to date. There are those who will reply with scornful, cynical replies (we all know who the doubters will be) claiming that Kibble are doing a wonderful job in spite of the fact that there is huge disharmony at boardroom level. You can choose to believe me or not but my advice is to follow your own path, seek out your own information. Ask your own questions of directors, the Smisa board or fellow fans (lots of supporters know what’s going on) but, please, don’t launch a counter argument accusing me of X, Y or Z as I won’t be responding. I’m not going to spend time answering or arguing – I’ve simply offered information about the lack of professionalism since Kibble came aboard. Do with whatever you want with it. My thoughts now turn towards on field activities and tomorrow's vital fixture. We desperately need a home win. COYS
  5. "It wouldn't be very good publicity for them, would it? The town's oldest charity exploiting the town's football club. Fans could organise demonstrations, hold up banners, etc. That kind of stuff, even if ignored by the press, would be all over social media. If you had protests during live games, or behind the goal, they'd feature on TV, too. It's a road nobody would want to go down, but if SMISA was left with no other options, then there'd be no alternative." Over to you, W7.
  6. As I have said, I have tried logical, reasoned debate but you bend the facts to suit your argumentative stance. You once said that some contributors are attention seekers. Oh, the irony. You are obviously a Kibble apologist as our exchanges have clearly shown. You are stubborn, unreasonable and are more interested in scoring childish, petty points in immature exchanges with others. I prefer adult, mature debate so our conversations have come to an end - life's too short to converse with those who are so blind that they deny what is staring them in the face. You have now proven without doubt to me (and many others) that 1, you are tied to Kibble and 2, you are more interested in keeping arguments going rather than seek resolution or even the middle ground so please do not reply as my part in this conversation is over - although I'm certain that, like most immature, argumentative individuals, your ego will demand that you have the last word. Please prove me wrong and, for once, maintain a dignified silence. Goodbye.
  7. Well, Bazil, there you have it - you have removed any doubt in my mind that you have a Kibble agenda. It's there for us all to see. You don't think that the Kibble directors need to be at the AGM? What nonsense! They have steadfastly refused to have face to face contact with other shareholders and fans, indeed no direct contact at all! The Kibble have been on our board since March 2020 and yet you're trying to pin the blame on our chairman? In spite of my using temperate, calm language on here you resort to emotive, argumentative phrases such as "The moaners on this website are consistently shown not to be a majority of our fans". Let me to adopt one of your favourite cliché's - where is your evidence? You are correct in saying that "Kibble will be changing things behind the scenes regarding our operations" but, sadly, it's not for the better - and the evidence is there for everyone to see. You even tie yourself in knots in your attempt to defend your Kibble paymasters/pals when you declare "Not attending AGM/ Meetings. This isn’t a big deal for me, it further fuels the us vs them mentality. Kibble directors are part of the St Mirren board & the St Mirren family." It's the opposite - if Kibble were part of the family they would be in attendance but they are cute - I'm certain they are already planting seeds for non attendance because they simply do not want to face the shareholders. It's unheard of for two board members to constantly avoid the fans scrutiny and it's certainly unethical. Referring back to my post I asked simple questions i.e. "Bazil, do you agree that they should in all good conscience attend the AGM in person and face up to the questions that will undoubtedly be posed from the members" In replying that you don't, you have put on display for the entire forum to see that you have an agenda and now, more than ever, I'm confident that you have a Kibble connection, whether that be as an employee or not. I also asked "Do you think that they should confirm or deny that they have issued a legal threat?" Like Trump and Johnson you completely failed to answer that simple question instead you answered like a slippery, dishonest politician and said "why Kibble are being automatically labelled the bad guy for this when our chairman has just been fined by the SFA for his behaviour online. " My point is not, and never has been, about John Needham - that's a separate issue and you have tried to muddy the waters by bringing him into this exchange. You are very aware that the club is in a downward spiral. You are as aware as anyone of the dangers they pose to our club yet you still defend them. You refuse to carry out the research I asked of you. Refused to ask questions. Shame on you, sir, you do not have St.Mirren's best interests at heart. I have tried reasonable, logical debate but you have an agenda, that much is obvious. It's clear that many contributors here hold your "opinions" with contempt and I only hope that those that don't can now be persuaded to see through your clear agenda. I'll sum up by leaving your quote so that your unreasonable, illogical stance can be highlighted. At a time when Kibble have threatened legal action against the custodians of our club your view is this: "Kibble directors are part of the St Mirren board & the St Mirren family. Do I think every director needs to be present at an AGM? No I don’t. " Wow. That says it all.
  8. Absolutely nailed it! Neither Kibble director has faced the fans nor attended either of the recent meetings and the reason is very obvious. Bazil seems to be disinterested in carrying out his own investigations nor does he ponder why so many of us have (and have become extremely worried). I'm afraid that the "where's the evidence" question is impossible to answer when referring to word of mouth. I have no intention of betraying confidences but the disharmony that exists within the club is easy to ascertain. There's no point in detailing all of the problems at the club as it's been done to death but he continues to ignore the testimony, while claiming that Kibble are wonderful and that well intentioned, informed supporters are wrong. Bazil, I truly wonder what your agenda is? No rational, sensible person could possibly deny that we are in trouble if he or she had asked the relevant questions to the right people about Kibble. I know, as does everyone else on this forum, that, despite your claims to the contrary, you are a Kibble apologist but I plead with you yet again - do your research! Talk to whatever contacts you have at the club. You surely know someone that could offer an insight to the internal politics. Talk to former employees/ directors/Smisa board members. Ask about the rock bottom morale at the club. But before you pontificate again, please do not offer an ill informed opinion when you evidently have not spoken to anyone who has had to work under the current regime. Every single contributor who have posted warnings about the current legal threat have come across as eminently sensible and rational - doesn't that ring alarm bells in your head? It should. Animals's statement that "none of the Kibble representatives on our board have yet faced any kind of scrutiny or questioning from St Mirren supporters or shareholders" is very apt. I also agree that the Kibble reps should indeed "face a forensic grilling at a physical AGM". I also suspect that, as usual, they will find an excuse not to face the fans. I have spent enough time trying to encourage fellow fans to do their own research, ask their own questions and avoid posting opinions without having done so. I suspect that you mind is made up no matter how persuasive Animal's argument may be but I'd love you to reflect on what I, and many others, believe. Please, adopt a flexible attitude and reflect on this: If Animal, myself and the other like minded fans are correct then the future of our club is at stake. Isn't that worth the small amount of time it would take you to ask a few questions p.s. Bazil, do you agree that they should in all good conscience attend the AGM in person and face up to the questions that will undoubtedly be posed from the members? Do you think that they should confirm or deny that they have issued a legal threat? Wouldn't that clear up this particular issue?
  9. Playing on words are we now? I prefer grown up dialogue. I've tried to be respectful, I've tried to be informative but clearly you prefer to adopt a more immature stance with petty point scoring. Please do not waste my time in replying. End of conversation.
  10. Extremely valid point. I have my suspicions as to who is responsible for the tweet being leaked but, of course, that's merely speculation on my part. However, like you, I wonder about the likelihood of a rangers fan going to the bother of digging through John Needham's tweets.
  11. You said "Yeah, but when you get "new users" and very seldom used aliases popping in espousing "conspiracy theories" and trying to stoke "rebellion" it makes you wonder if it's just one person trying to shit stir." I put a lot of detail in my reply in an obviously misguided attempt to have you do your own research but also in an attempt to stop you name calling i.e. "one person trying to shit stir". I completely understood your post and you clearly stated that there were "new users", "conspiracy theories" and folk "trying to stoke rebellion" . I summarised by saying "But, if the club's future is important to you, then do your own digging but, please, for the good of OUR club don't label someone who lists all these ongoing problems as a shit stirrer". If you think that my detailed reply says "nothing much" then I suggest that maybe, just maybe, it is you who has "misread or misunderstood (perhaps deliberately) my post." I reiterate - don't believe me, I mean it! Don't believe anyone else who shares my opinion either! But, if the club's future is important to you, then do your own digging but, please, for the good of OUR club don't label someone who lists all these ongoing problems as a shit stirrer. Please do your own research - it matters not a jot to me if you believe me or Animal or any other contributor. What is important is that everyone be fully aware of what's going on. Pondering if any well meaning fan is a shit stirrer is really a waste of your time, my time and everyone else's time. As I said, now go find out for yourself - that'd be a more valuable use of your time.
  12. It's been public for 10 days. So hardly just now. Respectfully, your definition of it being public is different from mine. My thoughts are that the club should make an announcement on such an important development and not rely on one curious fan having to dig into company house records.
  13. You can lead a horse to water as I've said before. However, why waste time being cynical when all you have to do is ask questions of your Smisa reps. Their details are on the Smisa website. Animal's post was very clear and was factual - everyone knows the facts about the various disasters of the last few months i.e. season ticket/ticket office debacle, new ticketing system being unfit for purpose for months, lost jersey sponsorship , 4 contracts awarded to one new company, loss of key members of staff including club doctor, safety officer, club director training ground still unfit for purpose, poor stadium maintenance, general manager joing, leaving then being quickly replaced - both of whom are/were employed by Kibble and not the club, director resignation without any announcement etc etc etc. These are all well documented, indisputable facts - not conspiracy theories. I've been a member for over 10 years but I've preferred to be an observer rather than a contributor but this issue is too important for me to remain silent. I hope that clarifies things for you. Anyway, so when Animal subsequently tells you that there is a legal battle going on don't you think its your duty as a St.Mirren fan to carry out your own research rather than come on here casting aspersions? I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not "stoking rebellion" - I'm hoping to inform fans who are unaware of what's going on between Kibble and Smisa. Don't you think checking that out is worth your time? My advice to you is this - don't believe me, I mean it! Don't believe anyone else who shares my opinion either! But, if the club's future is important to you, then do your own digging but, please, for the good of OUR club don't label someone who lists all these ongoing problems as a shit stirrer. We were promised an increased level of professionalism from Kibble but the cold hard facts suggest we have not become more professional - it's the complete opposite. The legal battle is real and Smisa are under the threat of legal action. Now go find out for yourself.
  14. I don't know if he's staying on as secretary or not because the document only shows "termination of a director appointment".
  15. Has the resignation been accepted? That could be the reason for no communication. Check the document from 24th November. A friend of mine, and former employee of the club for many years came across this. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC005773/filing-history
  16. Your information is accurate, animal, assuming that the silent departure you're referring to the resignation from the board of directors that took place last week? I'm amazed that a director resigning from the board has not been announced. It's the norm, as you say, to issue a standard thank you in such circumstances. Of course, despite the "principle of probability" and the fact that this resignation seems to be hushed up, there will remain doubters. To those doubters I would ask this - why has the club/Smisa not announced the resignation that occurred over a week ago? Don't you think that is very strange? These are worrying times.
  17. You can lead a horse to water and all that but winning an online argument is clearly more important to you than the club's current perilous state so I concede. You win. You've out fought me, out argued me, proved me wrong in this petty exchange so please feel good about yourself and consider the matter closed - our exchange is over.
  18. I posted it an hour ago. Did you post your sarcastic reply without reading my original post? Surely not. I've cut and paste the paragraph for you. Now, before I do, let me explain why I refer to "allegations". I do not want to be embroiled in the legal process and, in this digital age everyone's identity can be easily found no matter how ridiculous their pen name is. As a result, I refer to "allegations" and "lead to believe" but I assumed anyone reading it would easily work out why I used those terms. Here it is. This is a forum, not a court of law, Bazil so providing evidence is impossible but I'm lead to believe that there are enough well informed people contributing to this thread who have contacts within Smisa, within the board, from ex-directors and former employees who have been given the information by word of mouth and are confident that these allegations are true. This information is now circulating and you can choose to believe it or not (That's my disclaimer and from now on I'm simply going to refer to allegations)
  19. I've made it clear that who the sources of information are. Take a minute to digest what various well informed posters are trying to do - there are a number of fans trying to get the information out to the larger fanbase - something that the Smisa board cannot do at this moment. Whether you choose to believe the story or cynically dismiss it as rumour and hearsay is up to you but I suggest that you may want to treat these posts seriously. I've not come on here to have arguments - I'm simply trying to inform and sarcastic answers does neither you nor the club any favours.
  20. For the sake of accuracy, I did not say that Kibble are trying to get out of the club. On the contrary it seems that they are attempting to gain more control. p.s. Do you really have to be so condescending i.e. "I’m open to someone providing something more substantial than ‘I heard a whisper’ ". There's really no need to be so disrespectful to someone who is simply trying to keep you and other fans informed.
  21. This is a forum, not a court of law, Bazil so providing evidence is impossible but I'm lead to believe that there are enough well informed people contributing to this thread who have contacts within Smisa, within the board, from ex-directors and former employees who have been given the information by word of mouth and are confident that these allegations are true. This information is now circulating and you can choose to believe it or not (That's my disclaimer and from now on I'm simply going to refer to allegations) The legal threat to remove the chairman has, allegedly, been delivered to Smisa and, allegedly, they've been legally warned not to discuss it in public. No one can provide hard copies of the letter (i.e. the evidence you desire) without apparently running the threat of legal action. Why would anyone make up such a story? If Smisa are muzzled where does our club go from here? Forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems that you are pro Kibble but it might be an idea get onside with Smisa and not Kibble. Why? Well, Smisa have the club's best interest at heart. I wonder if Kibble do? The full story will fully emerge but Smisa are, allegedly, being muzzled right now. Why not get in touch with Smisa yourself - they are easy to contact - and see if you get an exact or a vague reply. But providing evidence would be literally an impossible task at this time. The contributors to this thread should not waste their time with petty point scoring against each other (the "my dad's bigger than your dad" kind of argument/point scoring is tiring and boring) but should instead look at the bigger picture of what is happening at the club. We have a democratically elected chairman who Kibble are, allegedly, trying to have removed. Irrespective of anyone's thoughts on John Needham's behaviour, surely nobody with half a brain feels that Kibble should carry such authority. That's not democracy.
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