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  1. Being the Bangkok Buddie, things like St Andrews day take on more significance.  We had the St Andrews Ball 2 weeks ago with Bahookie Ceilidh Band from Scotland.

    Tonight it will be full blown Scottish dinner, including haggis, neeps and tatties etc.  Bunting is already up on the balcony as are the blue and white lights.


    Have a great time whatever you are and whatever way you celebrate it.  


    Looking forward to see you all at the Aberdeen game, when i get home at Christmas.


  2. I am sure somebody will correct me, but i always have this memory of a season where St Mirren scored for fun.  Somner did all the hard work and Mcdougal claimed all the goals.  The guy had the uncanny knack of being in the right place, right time.  Goals went in off his back, bum, shoulder, shin but they all counted.  What wouldnt we give for a good old penalty box "jammie'" striker these days?

  3. Yet again a moan abour SGG turns in to a Kibble debate.

    Like him or loathe him, at least SGG and the consortium all were resonably successful business men who had experience in running a buiness. The club played the Hampden game, financial management game in very difficult times for the Club and Scottish football.

    Maybe he has an agenda, but doesnt everybody. 

    Selling and getting their money back annoyed many fans, but it is easy to moan when it is not your money.  They forget it was the consortium who put their money where their mouthes were when the Club was in danger.  Just look at the poor uptake to the previous share issues when the Club needed money, fans cannot actually financially support a club in difficult times.  To most of us small shareholders, it was a matter of the heart, not the greatest financial deal we had ever done.  That is probably why we still chip in our money each month.

    How many Celtic fans hate Fergus Mccann walking away with a tidy profit yet are happy that he saved the club, brought professional business practices and was probably the one who set the financial model for those that followed.

    We all love the club, love the concept of fan ownership but I would be very concerned about most of the fans on a Saturday actually being involved in running it day to day.

    This message was partly due to reading the statement of the SMISAClub Board nominee.  I found after reading it, that it was full of lovely ideas and concepts but I had no idea if the guy actually had the skill set to run the business.  Hopefully that may come out on here in the coming days.

  4. I am always confused to read on here about "fan owned".  What does "fan owned" actually mean?  

    Even the SG, GLS Consortium was "fan owned" albeit a small number of them and there was always the risk of sale to an outsider..

    To listen to some people, they think without Kibble, SMISA would own 100% of the club.  

    The original ownership model of buying all of GLS shares would not have given 100% ownership.  There are still about 20% of shares out there in the hands of small shareholders, most of whom are fans but free to sell to whoever they please..  

    "Fan Ownership" to me, means the majority of the shareholding is in the "fan group's" hands so that the club is saved for the future. No threat of a Brealey etc coming and buying us.

    But the important thing is that even if Kibble went looking for all of these small shares, or deced to sell to a "predator", nobody can ever get a majority.


    That brings us on to the upcoming elections, "fan owned" v "fan managed", they are very different things, but that is for another day

  5. Who would be a manger?

    After the cup failure, SR given hell on here about his poor summer signings, now a few weeks later, he is a GOD with everybody saying what wonderful signing he made. 

    On paper, JR looks to have strengthened his team over the summer.  They surprised everybody last season, I wouldn't right them off just yet.

    A lot depends on if he gets the time.  SR did, but that may be becasue we can't afford to sack him.

    Going to be an interesting season outside of the OF.

  6. A lot depends on the reason for the money being spent.

    In the past the biggest shortfall was often cash flow in winter months after a few postponements. In that case individual directors (major shareholders) often gave the club short term loans that were then paid back. 

    I think that could be way ahead for one aspect of the SMISA investment. 

    Like others, I cannot see how Kibble could make such loans. 

  7. Slightly off topic but about the Euros squad, hopefully one of you can help. Given that vaccinations are now getting to younger people, they are more readily available, why was the Scotland squad, families, back roof staff and even fringe players not vaccinated a month ago. Appreciate not 100% full proof but would certainly have reduced the risk. Even with life in a bubble, this might have helped.  


    Hopefuly Jason Leitch quietly organised it for the boys.

    Don’t want a big antivax debate, just trying to be practical and look after the lads. 1 case and 5-6 not travelling to Holland game, concerns me

  8. This time it’s the blue side of the ugly sisters. Equally it could be the green side. I am hearing Celtic friends condemn this but they never understand it takes two to tango. Don’t see them commenting when it’s the Green Brigade etc. 

    Last month everybody was up in arms about the racist comments made against a rangers player. Isn’t a bit sanctimonious of the west of Scotland society that condemn that but find the bile from rangers and Celtic pefectly acceptable.

    Not excusing them, but the sad part is that those same players who were abused, were probably singing but don’t actually know what they were singing about in the video. Given fact most of the team are from overseas they are just repeating the rubbish they hear each week on the terraces  

    We all know that at every game we will be subjected to the hatred that is the Old Firm bigotry yet nobody seems to hear the songs at the SFA, SPFL and Holyrood. 

    Money makes this bile acceptable.  Maybe when we get the “say no to racism” campaign, we need to look a bit closer to home at bigotry.

    sadly we all know that not going to happen as it’s the ugly sisters pulling the strings  



  9. Oh no, what are the club doing in putting out a straight forward statement?  Such spoil sports  

    Don't they realise they are just spoiling the fun of all our conspiracy theorists on here who are desperate to talk about fallouts between Kibble, SMISA and the club, Kibble finding grave financial errors in the books, possible financial irregularities that could scupper the buyout. 

    No doubt they will find something else to moan about!


  10. Technically permitted in November but morally wrong in December trip to Dubai.  The Covid situation changed dramatically with the appearance of the new strain in early December.

    After this shambles about the Celtic trip, it will be interesting to see what the beaks have to say about the St Mirren and Kilmarnock appeals.

    Celtic are already on a warning from a Covid breach earlier in the season, will they get off again?

    All the talk about a weakened Celtic, half the team played against Rangers.  The joy of being able to afford a large squad.

    Celtic have admitted that there were minor breaches in Dubai, compare that to what Kilmarnock and the Buddies did.

    I think all the provincial fans know what will be overlooked and who will be punished.



  11. Has anybody been contacted regards the 2020 AGM?  It normally should be around early December.

    Is it on hold pending the financial investigation that has been reported recently.

    As a Company, does the Club not have an obligation to it's shareholders to bring them up to date.

  12. Gilmour given a bit of a rough time.  There are three parts to the Covid issue.

    The Government decision was simply based on number of cases, risks to other players etc.  They are not worried who is infected, simply number of cases, exposure, risk etc.  They do not look at individual players etc

    The UEFA situation only dictates the number of players you need to field.  It does state that it is 13 players INCLUDING a goalkeeper.

    The situation of losing 3 goalkeepers very late in the day is a football issue.  The emergency rule is there but what would be the outcome if St Mirren had conscientiously endeavoured to get an emergency goalkeeper and given the difficulty such as player needs to be Covid tested,  failed through no fault of themselves.  Hearts having a goalkeeper in training and tested was pure luck.

    Outfield players have gone in goals but seldom from the start.  To me insisting they put an outfield player in goals is the wrong part.

  13. Interesting to listen to Tommy Wright on Sportsound podcast last Fiday.  When talking about St Mrren going to Ibrox, he was asked about how difficult it is to go to the ugly sisters.  He explained very clearly that the difficult part is not defending against the Old Firm, most teams can get men behind the ball.  the most important aspect is when you do get the ball, do not give it back to them easily, try to hold it, take the steam out of the game.  As I sat and watched the game, i could just hear his words coming back to haunt us!  Hot potato fotball, In most cases 2 passes and Rangers had the ball back.

    Jim needs to get that part fixed.

    Not fair to comment on Obika, any worldclass striker would have been isolated on Sunday.

    Sadly might be more of the same on Wednesday.

  14. It has been mentioned by a couple of people, that some of us overseas fans support the club by paying to watch the live home games on SMTV.

    Will this service still be available or be replaced by the SKY deal? We are in effect paying for a "virtual" Season Ticket annually.

    What happens when games with fans start again?

    I do not want to start a debate about camera work etc.  Although the University footage is not perfect, it far better than nothing. 

  15. Watching the cup goal, for some reason it reminded me of the recent obika goal against Hearts. No alcohol involved!!!


    Of of course no comparison with Ferguson. But just thinking about how important goals can be. All this hassle about relegation was hanging on a few of Obika,s “lucky” strikes. 


    Would there have been the same uproar if it was us instead of Hearts in the relegation spot. Heard the Hamilton GM ask the same question last week on Sportsound. 


    Sporting integrity my arse!!!

  16. 2 hours ago, W6er said:

    I agree with points 1 & 2. I'm ambivalent towards points 3 & 4, as I don't think people should always blindly follow their government's orders. Aye, in the case of a national emergency, but despotic regimes always claim that obedience is imperative for the good of the country! Ultimately I would rather take my chances and live in a free society than live in a country where I need the permission of the government to go to the shops. Temporarily, that's fine, but I will not blindly obey indefinitely. 

    Fully agree with you about 3-4. I was only talking about short term. People really need to get a grip of themselves. We in serious s**t up to our necks for next few weeks. 

    1. Don’t know if boris has it right or not, but just getting fed up with every other politician who has no real responsibility, jumping on the “I know better” bandwagon. Scoring political points at this time is s**t. What happened to national unity, caring about the people?
    2. same with panic buyers etc. No thought for others. Hope the guys with all the handgel gets it from somebody that has none. We all need a share of everything. 
    3. china and Asia have different culture but when government said or demanded stay at home, they did it.  Here we want freedom, want to go to pub etc. “Nobody tells me what to do” culture. Absolutely bonkers. 
    4. Next it will be the civil liberty claims. Government cannot tell me what to do lt!


    britain waken up. Batten down the hatches. Nobody knows when officially started in China, but Lets say mid Jan. over worse of it now. Relatively short time period. There sadly will be deaths but even with the greatest care, these will inevitably happen. The country at large needs to get a grip, knuckle down for next 4-6 weeks and let’s get through it as best we can. 


    To all all of you.  Be sensible, do the hand washing, stay safe, look after others, lets get through this


  17. We really need to stop the usual posters. Blame everybody. Rename this post “season all to play for”. Thiat is what Jim and the team need to focus on. Survival and as high a finish as possible. Cup would have even great but if I and my fellow investors are going to get our monies worth, we need to stay up. 


  18. https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/sfa-mark-rangers-below-st-16414298

    Not that we need a UEFA licence this year, but how do we get such a good overall rating and get refused a licence.

    Interesting to see the artificial pitch ratings.

    Think the overall rating shows how well managed a "small' club we are.


    Apologies didn't see same thing listed under the very subtke "we've won gold thread".

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