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  1. 6 hours ago, Kemp said:

    He's a wee shite.

    I wonder how his career would have gone if he had shown a bit of patience like McGinn, Mallan, McLean etc and not spat the dummy aged 16 for not getting in the first team!

    A wee shite :lol::lol: Jesus christ.

    I doubt his career would've been much different for him if he stayed with us or not, Killie gave him as much of a change as we would have.  Not many young Scottish players do anything other than play well up here, disappear to the lower English leagues then end up back here on loan or keep bouncing around the leagues down there.

  2. 18 minutes ago, Saint Garf said:

    That's that humped then. I thought he might go to a bigger club than us,  but maybe not Werder Bremen big. I see Ostersunds are after Henderson as well, most likely out of that race too (If we were ever in it).

    Of the other ones doing the rounds, I'd happily take Hippolyte. As much as he's a bit of a diver, he's a good player and I'm sure Jack and James could coach the cheat out of him.  In a weird way he'd also be a partial solution to our lack of depth in centre mid. He could play on the right if required to let Magennis move into his more natural centre mid role and provide some competition for McGinn and McShane.

    If we are to sign a wide midfielder from our division I'd much rather we signed Josh Mullin at Livingston. I rate him far higher than Hippolyte and he has a better end product imo.

  3. 29 minutes ago, Maboza said:

    I'd also like to think that he'll get a fair crack at the first team. 

    You only have to watch our games to see teams attempts at stifling Morgan, doubling and sometimes trebling up on him. 

    That won't happen at Celtic as they have threats throughout the team. Even when teams clock on and he is doubled up on, you'd expect Celtic to work better as a team at exploiting the space that it creates around the rest of the park. 

    I really hope he gets a good chance for them. I'm no great fan of James Forrest for Scotland but he seems to do well for Celtic. I think Morgan has more of an end product even at such a young age. 

     

     

    I'm a huge fan of Lewis but i cannot see how he will get a game for their first XI any time soon unfortunately.  He has Sinclair, Forrest, Roberts, McGregor & Hayes in front of him for his position and Christie and Scott Allan (although probably not) returning from loan spells elsewhere who will also be ahead of him. Johnny Hayes was one of the best wingers in our Premiership over the last two or three years and even he cant get a regular game.

    He's definitely one for the future but at his age and to continue his development he needs to play and play on a regular basis. I know he's due to come back to us on loan til' the end of the season which is great but he needs to be playing regular football beyond that. I'd hate to see him rotting away in a development squad to then turn up at Partick Thistle a few years later as half the player he could've been. We've seen it happen all too often especially with the Old Firm teams.

  4. 9 minutes ago, bud84 said:

    Some apparently 'ITK' Celtic fan on twitter claiming they've agreed deals for 2 players in January worth 4m quid. 1 of which will involve a loan back for the rest of the season. 

    John Mcginn and Lewis Morgan being the names suggested by just about everyone.  ( He gave a clue, both surnames begin with M) 

    If true, this would be some bit of business for St mirren with McGinns sell on clause. 

    4m does seem a bit much right enough.

     

    3.5 for John & 500k for Lewis doesn't seem too far from realistic fees for both of them.

  5. I can’t think of any position that we urgently need to sign someone to fill but we could do with someone else to play central midfield/holding midfield as we’re a bit light with only McShane & McGinn able to fill the role IMO.

    Also, if Hilson and/or Todd are likely to be punted, I’d like to see young Flannagan brought back and integrated into the first team. He’s very highly thought of and by all accounts has been excellent during his two loan spells. Hopefully another exciting winger on our books!

    I'd be sad to see Sutton go as he's been excellent for us over the years in both spells but it's quite clear Jack doesn't fancy him and if he's on a decent wedge the money could be put to better use elsewhere - Like buying fitba's for the first team :rolleyes:

  6. 56 minutes ago, JM1 said:

    Pretty sure Mullen often plays out wide for Livvy. He's certainly quick and can take a man on.

     

    If it's the guy I'm thinking of anyway.

    You're thinking of Josh Mullin. I'd take him at Saints. Very good on both wings and excellent with the ball at his feet going forward. A local-ish lad that wouldn't cost a fortune.

  7. 43 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

    Look I am not disagreeing that BR is a good coach " domestically"

    This not about Celtic its about Rodgers in Europe, I can hardly question his domestic records against giants like Ross County and Hamiliton, and the mighty Sevco

    Other than questioning a domestic treble and undefeated league season and  it being a lesser achievement than previous managers who've achieved far far better. :lol::lol:

    What's with the random photograph with a Liverpool statistic attached to it which has nothing to do with the original conversation...

    You're a lunatic lad.

    You win :lol:

  8. 2 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

    Mate- they had competition he hasn't , and every time he has played "The Celtic Way" he has lost 0-5,1-7, 0-7, 0-3.... Thank god u support Saints..... I don't think any English PL team would have lost that heavy and I am including Swansea in that. Again nice guy, will win lots of Scottish trophies but has no Plan B 

    Celtic and Rangers have had 100x the budget of other teams since time began ffs. It hasn't changed from then til now.  You mentioned Deila above who despite having a lesser league (no Rangers, no Hearts, no Hibs) did not manage to win the league unbeaten... You can't get any better than a domestic treble and unbeaten league campaign :lol:

    He played the 'Celtic Way' against Anderlecht away from home and managed to win comfortably or does that not fit your agenda?

    I understand we don't like the old firm as fans of proper teams (theres nae old firm Ranjurz are dead etc etc :rolleyes:) but you can't underestimate Celtics achievement of last season and Rodgers' influence.

  9. 4 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

    Eh but they had Rangers 1873 remember? RD had Aberdeen, no Hibs, Sevco or Hearts , just St Johnstone Caley and Accies.... BR has had McInnes head to head with 50 times his budget...... Behave.................. Do u think BR would win treble at Aberdeen ??

    BR is a nice guy, but Anderlecht and his time at Liverpool has shown has no Plan B

    *1872.

    It doesn't escape the fact that he won the treble in his first season and remains unbeaten since his arrival. I can't quite see how the other managers you mentioned have done 'far far better' than that.

     

     

  10. 24 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

    Yeah, an incredible achievement with  a squad worth over 100m, an average wage of 750k and over 20 internationalists, and the ability to buy talent and then farm them out. Look 67 games is an achievement but come on, its like Man City winning the English Championship   and the Johnstone Painting Trophy or whatever its called...... 

    Something which Strachan, O'Neill & Lennon couldn't achieve despite being far far better domestically allegedly....

  11. 45 minutes ago, RichardBuddie said:

    McInnes will go to Sevco, this will be his only chance with them and I don’t think he’ll pass up on it, the question is do Aberdeen go for a more experienced manager right away or sadly for us go for our manager who is probably just as experienced and talented as McInnes was when Aberdeen signed him?

    That's just simply not true. :blink:

  12. 2 hours ago, bazil85 said:

    Well no, that's not the point I'm making at all. The rules should be the same as younger players. Clubs only need to be paid comp if they've offered them a contract of greater value for minimum one year. So if Sutton left at the end of his contract we wouldn't get comp. Hearts wanted rid of Gavin so no comp. 

    It's very simple what I'm saying, the rule should be the same for all players regardless of age (have to be offered a contract). If you knew what the rule was it would answer every one of your questions. 

    I do know what the rules are and how the fee's are compiled for the younger players development. However, you're basing us receiving compo for Gavin due to us turning him into a 25 goal striker (incidentally, he hasn't got near 25) allegedly.

    Development fees are there to protect clubs that develop younger players in their early stages of football education from being snaffled by the larger teams for hee haw, i can see the sense in that but 24yr old Gavin Reilly's football development and education has been and gone and we're due nothing in return if he signs elsewhere which makes perfect sense to me

  13. 32 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

    I don't think it should stop. Not saying it should be as much as they get older but I think teams should be compensated when losing players. if a team like St Mirren sign a Gavin Reilly, turn him from a bit part SP player into a 25 goal a season striker should we get zero for him because he's 24 but would get a development comp if he was 21?

    The development player was initially put in to support smaller clubs developing younger players but why should it just be younger players? Hardly fair. Same could be said for us taking league 1 players in the summer. I'd have it across the game at all ages.  

    What utter nonsense. Yes we should get zero for Gavin Reilly if he signs elsewhere.

    So, if John Sutton leaves at the end of his contract we should receive a fee from whoever resigns him? That will put the majority of minor teams off signing free agents / out of contract players due to another monetary reason to budget for. It's bad enough they have wages, signing on fees, agent fees and now they have to pay compensation for an aging journeyman striker.

    What should we have paid Hearts for Gavin in the summer? Should the figure we paid Hearts be a lot less than the one we will receive down to the fact he managed to score more goals for us in a lesser league? How do you gauge the standard of goals he scores? bearing in mind he scored four against Hutchinson Vale and two against Hearts U20's, is the value of compensation worked against the standard of defenders he's faced? He scored goals in the Premiership for Hearts are they worth more?

    What about Dunfermline? Do they get anything due to him being on loan last season as surely they developed him for us ?

  14. 30 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

    We wouldn't be, my point is the rules aren't fair on clubs signing older players. If he was 20 we would of got comp for him. Why not at 24? Are players not able to improve passed the age of 22? It's complete nonsense and disadvantages teams. 

    24 isn't young for a footballer.  What age do you reckon the compensation agreement should stop at?  I'd understand your argument if we had developed Gavin over a longer period of time however, by the time he is free to talk to other clubs, he wouldn’t have even completed a full season with us. I don’t know how we could possibly claim any compensation over him.

    Arguably, QOTS are the team that developed Gavin into the goal scorer (and received a nom.fee from Hearts) he is and due to lack of opportunity/confidence it never quite worked at Hearts or Dunfermline. No-one else should be due anything in regard to compensation. 

  15. 16 hours ago, bazil85 said:

    Rules should be changed to protect smaller clubs. The no compensation for players over 22 rule is crazy. Gavin Reilly example is a perfect one. We take him in from a rough time in SP and get his confidence back and banging in the goals. Then can sign pre-contract for another club in January and we don't get a penny. Penalises small clubs as per. 

    Why would we be due any money for Gavin if he left in January? He’s 24 years old and a fully developed professional with nearly 200 first team appearances.

    He’s entitled to talk to anyone in January about a move and we can’t grumble about that. If we had the utmost confidence in his ability then we would’ve offered him a longer deal to avoid such an issue.

    We’ve done no more to develop him than his previous clubs.

  16. Can't say i managed to enjoy the game at all yesterday due to two extremely loud mouthed woman screaming and swearing for a solid 90mins about anything and everything.

    They had a young lad with them too which shocked me after hearing what they were shouting. They were an absolute disgrace & i hope it's just a one off game they attended because i really couldn't suffer them for a whole game every second Saturday sitting behind me.

    My ears are still ringing.

    Anyway. 2-2. Not the worst point in the world at home against a reasonable Morton side.

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