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  1. Murray Resigns - Confirmed

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    If I'm honest Callum, Oaksoft has a point.

    I'm a father and have been taking my two sons to matches since they were 2 years old. When they were much younger I went through a phase where I stopped taking them for a while due to what I perceived as a lack of consideration by other football fans.

    I grew up in the 70's and 80's and football was a much more dangerous place than it is today. They were pissed up fans on open terraces, often drinking from cans or bottles during the match, and sometimes after the game you'd have to play dodge the missile on the walk back to the train station, or back to your car. However along with that came a kind of unwritten code of conduct where adults would all try to ensure that any kids in the ground could see the action, and where if there were kids or ladies in close proximity you simply did not swear. In the last 20 or so years that's gone from the game. These days it doesn't matter that there are hundreds of empty seats in a stand there is a high likely hood that if you are there with young kids some 6'5" tall prick is going to choose to sit immediately infront of your and just as likely is the fact that this eejit is going to spend large parts of the match swearing at everything that moves, and with no hint of comedic value either. Oh and pointing out their lack of consideration doesn't help either. You simply get told it's you who should move - or more likely "f**k off" cause that's the way those of that ilk talk infront of kids.

    There's always going to be people swearing at football matches, but where I'd back Oaksoft completely is that it's often done with absolutely no thought or consideration for who or what is around them and that is off putting for at least SOME parents who are taking their kids to matches.

    Can't help but agree.sitting yesterday i said to my friend that having been to st mirren games since 1977 I have not been aware of such an angry unpleasant atmosphere. I don't know how many times I had to say to my 11 year old son to cover his ears and not dare repeat what was being said / sung.

    Don't get me wrong , I'm not the slightest bit upset that Ian Murray has gone but our support did not put themselves in a good light yesterday . We have seen many managers lose the support ( moyes at Man U , Rogers at Liverpool, pardew at Newcastle ) but I do t remember chants like that being aimed at them.

    Don't care what anybody says but if you didn't feel sorry for that guy taking the walk from the 'dugout ' - and that's a joke - then you don't have any sense of humility. Utterly unpleasant.

    Not disappointed with the eventual sequelae, but really not nice.

    The brief clips on YouTube doesn't come close to what was being said throughout the game- mainly in second half. All in all a most unpleasant experience , and a young supporter who is now completely bemused by what supporting his club is about

  2. Murray Resigns - Confirmed

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    If I'm honest Callum, Oaksoft has a point.

    I'm a father and have been taking my two sons to matches since they were 2 years old. When they were much younger I went through a phase where I stopped taking them for a while due to what I perceived as a lack of consideration by other football fans.

    I grew up in the 70's and 80's and football was a much more dangerous place than it is today. They were pissed up fans on open terraces, often drinking from cans or bottles during the match, and sometimes after the game you'd have to play dodge the missile on the walk back to the train station, or back to your car. However along with that came a kind of unwritten code of conduct where adults would all try to ensure that any kids in the ground could see the action, and where if there were kids or ladies in close proximity you simply did not swear. In the last 20 or so years that's gone from the game. These days it doesn't matter that there are hundreds of empty seats in a stand there is a high likely hood that if you are there with young kids some 6'5" tall prick is going to choose to sit immediately infront of your and just as likely is the fact that this eejit is going to spend large parts of the match swearing at everything that moves, and with no hint of comedic value either. Oh and pointing out their lack of consideration doesn't help either. You simply get told it's you who should move - or more likely "f**k off" cause that's the way those of that ilk talk infront of kids.

    There's always going to be people swearing at football matches, but where I'd back Oaksoft completely is that it's often done with absolutely no thought or consideration for who or what is around them and that is off putting for at least SOME parents who are taking their kids to matches.

  3. Saints To Appeal Both Cards

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    Webster was the closest player.

    I didn't have a good view of the incident. Unfortunately the South Stand at Hampden didn't afford me a live angle. I'm going by the TV pictures. Webster doesn't utter a word of protest

    Well if you did look at the pictures you would indeed realise what a ridiculous decision it was . I await your comments when it is overturned . Honestly, what is the point in you contributing? What do you bring? Clearly sending off had no bearing on result but was not correct decision . Will be overturned .

  4. Morton V St Mirren Championship

    in Matchday & Travel Club

    Posted

    SPL refs ARE terrible . It's the same who sent off Thommo and didn't give kenny mcleans 'goal'off the bar and across the line against Motherwell last year

    Correction: made the mistake of reading the quality Morton programme which stated Alan Muir as the referee, on the same page where it lists the full Falkirk squad as the away team under a St mirren badge. Clearly a quality production. Sorry for mistaken identity Mr Muir, though to be fair you are still a really bad referee

  5. Morton V St Mirren Championship

    in Matchday & Travel Club

    Posted

    Can only see us getting better. The sending off worked in our favour. It galvanised the team. Gallagher looked good and the defence were pretty solid after the ridiculous red card.

    Also I thought SPL refs were terrible. That one tonight was abysmal

    SPL refs ARE terrible . It's the same who sent off Thommo and didn't give kenny mcleans 'goal'off the bar and across the line against Motherwell last year

  11. Next St Mirren Manager

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    If people thought Gus McPhersons teams were dull and boring, Billy Davies will take insipid to a new level. The man is straight from the Craig Brown and Craig Levein mould of football.

    When he was at Motherwell he was given a huge budget by John Boyle who targeted getting Rangers and Celtic fans through the turnstyles to watch Motherwell at home if their club was away. Davies bought in players like Goram, Spencer, and Ged Brannan all on huge wages, ignored the youth resources at the club and managed to get them playing some of the most one paced, lackluster and defensive football I've seen in a long time in the Scottish game.

    Yet for all that he's a big name that I doubt would stoop to taking the St Mirren job.

    Turnstyle

    Lackluster

    Lost your spell chek?

  14. The Tommy Craig Must Go Thread

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    This is what I mean by a lack of perspective. Massive amount?

    In one single match yesterday half of your entire life's spend on this club was wiped out by the £5k loss (about 20 years worth of your season tickets).

    That's how insignificant each individual fan's contribution is.

    This SHOULD shock you.

    I hope it wakes a few up to the cold hard facts about what kinds of sums are required to keep a club afloat.

    Could do something with my £500 next year when we are in the championship . Couple of flat screen TV's on next years Black Friday at tesco ?

  15. The Tommy Craig Must Go Thread

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    Right guys this is it.

    This is your chance to show us all how pure dead passhunate you are about oor club.

    Now is the time to band together and prove that the fans are the REAL owners of our club.

    Which one of you gum bashing whining bastards is going to stump up the £5k shortfall from yesterdays game out of your own pockets?

    It's time for the talking to stop and for action. This is your moment. Come on then let's see some of this commitment you're talking about.

    For those who are not of an arithmetic persuasion, this £5k amounts to about 20 years of season ticket payments.

    Come on. You can't expect to abuse people and then go quiet when its time for a real adult to step up.

    Who is it going to be?

    JJ McG?

    Dave The Buddie?

    BillyG?

    Anyone?

    s

    Looks like the £5k theory has been kicked into the long grass.

    Commitment ?

    Does that mean behaving like a flock of sheep? Not allowed to have any thought for themselves ? But expected to turn up week after week , she'll out the money and watch the same dross? God forbid that people can actually think-and act- for themselves. When the public face -TC- for the club acts with such a shocking disregard for the very people whom are supposed to sleepwalk their way to greenhill road , hand over their money , and be 'entertained ' by the calamitous carry on in front of them ?

    Aye, right....

  16. The Tommy Craig Must Go Thread

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    Oops, technology failure there. That interview on bbc was toe curlingly awful at the end. Makes DL look like Gandhi . Utterly utterly embarrassing . Is that to entice us to dip into our pockets and turn up tomorrow . Having prepaid to watch dross by buying ST don't want to shell out more to watch more dross led by this incompetent baffoon . Depressed.

  20. Time For A Change( Cheap Option Didn't Work)

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    When you are a central defender for a Scottish premier league team and cannot kick / head / blotter the ball to row Z when it's patently obvious that is what's required , but instead-AGAIN- deliver it to a player of the opposing team in or around your penalty box then it IS very much something to do with Marc McAusland , st Mirren fan or not . Every other central defender in the SPFL would have cleared their lines without hesitation today

  23. Saints Goals To Treasure

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    http://www.stmirrenprogrammes.co.uk/StMirren/STM_Match_Details.php?Season=1977&GameID=1659

    attachicon.gifJackieCopland.jpg

    attachicon.gif3-3 Report Dec 77.jpg

    Certainly the intent was there.

    Big Jackie Copland was an absolute rock at the heart of our defence. A born leader and a very nice gentleman too.

    I only wish that he had been around for the 1987 Cup Triumph for as far as NorthBank heroes goes he is up there with the best of them.

    JC deserves to be inducted into the St Mirren Hall of Fame - he certainly qualifies with over 200 appearances, but I guess may not happen until after the club is sold.

    crikey , its exciting just reading that report again

  24. Saints Goals To Treasure

    in General St. Mirren Discussion

    Posted

    The one that really sticks in my mind was an Iain Munro goal against Celtic's Peter Latchford. IM ran down the left wing (we were attacking the Love St. end) nobody challenging him, he looked up at Latchford and waved his left had at him, saying, come and get it. Latchford took half a step forward and IM belted it left foot of the underside of the bar and in. Must have been 1979-80?

    possibly december 77 . ? 3-3 game . Jackie Copeland sent off for '' punching '' Edvalsson, although his punch was as close as a Bahoken shot

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