Lord Pityme

Nah loads of people know me on here. They dont know who... Brilliant Disguise/Cockles Slarti B Sally Bazil Etc.. etc.. are. Now theres irony!

Well in the case of breaching the smisa constitution, whether a member makes more than they paid for something is irrelevant!The question is are they benefitting from being a smisa member? And unquestionably in this case, this member is. This is evidenced by the smisa committee requesting ALL smisa members to vote, to change an agreement, the outcome of which is ONE member benefitting to the tune of £300k, a d the membership getting a diminished settlement than agreed, and voted on. A clearly cut breach of the constitution, it could not be.

Nice... true colours out now. Wonder who the forum reckon you are? Lets play "Pin the Tail on the Donkey'

If Scott doesn't control smisa, how come the membership have not been consulted on ONE issue since BtB landed? Despite assurances from smisa and Scott they would@

What..? And enable fan ownership lol.

Facts smisa. What's the committee view on providing a benefit to one member (GLS) by facilitating his profit in share dealings, contrary to the constitution,? Asking for a lot of friends.

You do know you are talking directly to smisa?

So its 'your opinion' that states as gospel what my future intentions may, or may not be?Ffs read that back to yourself pal... its bonkers. Just stick to your line of disagreeing with anything I comment on, even if its unquestionably correct. Lol Then natural order will be maintained. Edit: for official smisa smear campaign read on here posts by 'Brilliant Disguise'... although its actually a piss poor disguise that practically leads to the posters front door!

Voting cant be going to plan when smisa are all over these boards and fan Facebook page desperately trying to smear anyone with the temerity to question or challenge the Kibble proposal. Very unedifying, and will be, as these things always are, noted by the support.

Hi ho Silver..! Funny this you coming on given the smisa board consider everyone on bawa, and the Facebook fan page as lunatics, not to be engaged with.

Back again Div?

What happens if we are relegated and the usual cost cutting measures are brought in, and the club drops meals for the players? I dont think Kibble are factoring in what, if any involvement they want if we drop out of the top league? They kinda alluded to this in their proposal.

It's all gone a bit Smeagol/Gollum around here. Lol

And therein lies another example of people acting like smisa & the club by trying to shout down legitimate concerns. If they had a applied a proper 3 month consultation process then the support may have felt more onboard having had the opportunity to shape the proposal, rather than it being presented as a done deal.

I think that's a position many find themselves in. If it's such a good proposal, and it's been worked on for months, then why arent smisa representing the support and insisting a proper and rigorous consultation period is applied. Then all stakeholders who wish to, can properly test and challenge Smisa, smfc and Kibble! And perhaps come to more than one option for a successful partnership, or at least deal with the biggest issue ever facing supporters. That being voting to allow someone else take over more that a quarter of the club! The haste, bluff, spin and done deal thinking behind this is an affront to smisa operating S a Community Benefit Society.

Baz is clutching at imaginary straws. Kibble dont need special resolutions to veto things, they can just do it in the boardroom as the proposal states there have to be Three-way agreements. Some feckin threesome that'll be.

Not till after Friday at least.

For those ITK?

We will be a pale shadow of a Hearts, Well etc... and have inevitable conflicts of interest in the boardroom. What other Scottish club has a complete outside body set to run the club? Edit: and they will need just One other board member to vote with them to defeat smisa. Now who in the board (with a casting vote)just having trousered £300k might be disposed to backing Kibble

Well your openness changed over the short course of that post! Lol For my part, I respect your decision whatever it is.

They want to take control over proceedings in exchange for their £300k to ensure their aims and objectives are achieved. They actually confirm this in their proposal. They're not shy about seeing this as Kibble expanding through smfc. Why some people, (despite the lack of one, just one set of figures showing how this will add an additional revenue stream to the club) think otherwise is mystifying. Kibble want to expand, smfc are ripe for exploitation... so much so that a charity is throwing £300k away, and the fans are being asked to sign over to Kibble. Have smisa, or the club given one, just one example of how they are going to step up to this new challenge? That should be a genuine worry for all! It appears it's only Kibble who have a plan, and the resource and determination to see it delivered!

Is that the fun ownership where 'the fans' own the club, or the "New Improved Formula' fan ownership where you start selling off the club? Why is our suggested version do different from Hearts & Motherwell... both clubs who nearly disappeared?

Ok the OP is a bit tongue in cheek, but the underlying question remains. If this deal is voted through, and smisa numbers drop as a result? Who is going to pick up the slack? The general nature of football fans will probably mean that they assume that Kibble are in charge, and will fund the club. Raising the very clear & present danger of smfc turning into Kibble FC by default/apathy/inevitability... The point (completely wrong imo) being made by some is "well there isnt the skill set required among saints fans to run the club anyway" Really? How so with Hearts & Well, oh yes and as the smisa chair likes to suggest our mirror image Barcelona? I agree too many of the wrong people are in there now, but the fans have had little influence in shaping that. Where we are at imo is the current board & smisa saying "we're done, its beyond us" so they, and minded members see Kibble as a safe haven. Nice and comfy, just kick back and let Kibble do it all. To me we are at 'Point Break'... that being we really need to take a decision to break the apathy/laziness/lack of giving a f**k etc and 'break' what's setting in, so we can reset on tbe right path for fans, club and community. See this for what it is, the board and Smisa are throwing in the cap, in the hope that, as Homer Simpson asks.. "cant somebody else do it?" Through saving face, refusing to admit their done etc, etc... choosing the wrong people. They are turning away from fans to hide/save admitting their shortcomings, and dressing this up as REAL fan ownership despite having already declared the last proposal was that and so much more. It's 'Point Break' buds... will you just slide the slippers on and let it wash over you, or Break it, to Fix it..?

D-Day... or rather K-Day for the club this Friday. It might never be the same after that.

Really? Then why did Scott & Smisa tell the world that the only show in town was full fan ownership?