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Itsybitsy

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  1. I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on your belief that they are both as bad as each other - the club have been fully professional throughout this and have acted in a professional manner whereas the boy and his father have acted unethically and unprofessionally by going to the papers when various solutions to the problem have been proposed in the many meetings they have had with both the boy and his father.
  2. You are completely correct. I used to be employed by the club for many years but I recently moved on however I am still in regular contact with people at the club and I know the boy personally having us both being part of the youth set up for many years.
  3. The club have never been awkward towards the situation - they have done nothing but go beyond the call of duty to try and support the boy and for their efforts the boy and his father have decided to stab the club in the back - the club that have developed him into the player that he is today. I am confused where the out of spite angle you are using is coming from - the way that I see it is that the only people being spiteful are the boy and his father by going to the newspapers. I am sure in the long run they will regret that as the way that I understand it the club are more than happy to hold him to the contract for the next 18 months whereas if they had acted professionally and openly then a mutual conclusion for all could have been achieved such as a loan deal that he was offered but the situation now the way I understand it that it is highly unlikely that or anything else will be on the table again.
  4. Kiaran was well aware of the possibility of a loan deal well before it was too late as you claim The club spoke to both him and his father so your claim that it was only at the last minute is simply untrue. I have no idea of the opinion of the club in sending him,out on loan now after what him and his father have done as they feel very betrayed by both the boy and his father by their actions as they feel their actions have been ill advised at best and very sneaky and low at worst. My feeling is it is somewhere in between. It's funny how you knew about the loan deal but have failed to mention it thus far? Is that because it actually proves that the club are not stopping the boy playing football - they are more than happy to let him but on its terms which they are more than entitled to do. It's funny how the newspapers make no mention of it. Kiaran and his father are being very selective on this information they release. Nothing wrong with telling their story but they should at least have the balls to tell all of it and not carefully selected portions of it.
  5. You are correct in that the Willie Smith part is widely known and that is the reason I mention it here. How can the boy take advice from him when he can't prevent members of his boys club being abused? His priorities are all wrong and that is plain to see. I do not doubt that the boy played in those games however like it or not there was a twelve month period when he was unsure of his future that he did not attend the club and the club supported him through this period. I also think it sums the boy up in that he has been saying quite openly that St Mirren are trying to stop him playing football and this is not the case. In fact quite the opposite is true. Last year the club supported him through school and also allowed him to play for his tea. In addition to that the club have also offered for him to go out on loan so that he can play as he wishes and this offer has been made to both the boy and his father and without being given an answer on it the next thing the club knows is that they are getting a call from Liam O'Donnel who is the boys lawyer but is also embroidered more in this with his ties to Queens Park as I mentioned earlier. It is a shame it has come to this and it also a shame that many of the youth players and their parents have now made their negative feelings of the boy and his dad well known to the club. You mention before that you speak to some of them so i am sure they will confirm this for you.
  6. I am afraid that your information on when the boy was training is not accurate. The points I make regarding Willie Smith are as you say ridiculous but very relevant. You state that the contract was not drawn up in a lawful manner? Really - Could you please elaborate in this? You obviously know something that the St Mirren lawyer doesn't know as they are very clear in that it is 100% legal and watertight. You have stated that you believe the conditions are dreadful - I find this very strange since the facilities that the youth teams at the club use have been graded second only to the old firm. For someone who appears to be very knowledgeable in the workings of the football club I am surprised that you believe the conditions to be dreadful. In my opinion the boy and his father have gone about this in the wrong way and the club have acted 100% honourably. I also think it is quite a contradiction that on one hand the boy states that he just wants to concentrate on his studies but on the other he is quite happy to be in the newspaper and drag the issue through the courts? The two do not marry up for me and they are trying everything they can to have him released but I for one am glad that the club are sticking to their guns as they are totally in the right for their stance on the situation. EDIT - Itsybitsy messed up quote function
  7. The points I made earlier are 100 percent accurate. You obviously have benn ill informed I am afraid. There is definitely skulduggery here without a shadow of a doubt on the side of the boy and those representing him. Talking of which this whole thing is being pushed by a guy called Willie Smith who is the president of Hillwood Boys Club 100 percent nothing to do with either Kiaran or the club. He is a chip on his shoulder with development programmes as his two grandsons were not good enough to progress. He has links to Gary Ralston at the DR which is why it managed to get into the paper. Now this has been in the papers on 3 occasions now and has had vast coverage. Don't you think It isstrange how a coach on Hillwood Boys Club has been suspended by both the club and the SFA and is under a police investigation into a sexual assault of a minor. I think willie Smith should be more concerned about protecting his own youngsters as opposed to those he has no connection with. This received only very limited coverage in the paper. The club are protecting their investment they have made in the boy and any club would do that. He has signed a contract which he should adhere to even if he does choose to go to university and not play for the duration of it. That is the whole point of a contract and I am glad the club are sticking to their guns and holding him to it. Hopefully he will learn a lesson from this.
  8. If that is the case then please tell me which part is inaccurate?
  9. Everything i have stated is 100 percent accurate. Please feel free to do some research to confirm this. My post is to ensure the facts in this case are not misconstrued or lost.
  10. If possible I would like to get back on subject and talk about the contract dispute. Here is what I know: 1. The club bent over backwards for this kid - in the year when he had his £1 a week contract he is talking about he was unsure of his future to the point that he never came into the club for a full year - it is correct he didn't receive payment on his contract for the period but he was nowhere near the club for a year. 2. The boy and hid Dad have been angling for him to leave the club and his Dad quoted as saying he could just go and play for Queens Park. Who is the Manager? Gus obviously who is very bitter against the club and would do anything to get under its skin 3. Gus and Liam O'Donnell are close friends. Do you think it is only a coincidence that Liam O'Donnell is the lawyer representing Kiaran? I definitely smell a rat here. It gets even murkier when you consider the fact that Liam O'Donnell is also an agent and runs a business that Gus is also involved in. I would suggest that being a PFA lawyer and an agent is definitely a conflict of interests. The club have done nothing wrong here apart from supporting the boy and in turn are getting shafted and hung out to dry by the boy and his Dad. They should be ashamed of themselves and I hope he is seen for the little rat that he is.
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