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17 hours ago, Mr Optimistic said:
You conveniently don't quote him in full. What he actually said was 'There are rumours about Jim Gillespie wanting a artificial pitch at SMP so his kids could run about the stadium.' It's so ridiculous, so absurd I thought it needed to be challenged. After todays COVID fiasco maybe the notion that we are a professional football club needs challenged as well?
Simply offering my take on what was written, however the shit-fest arising out of what would appear to be our own lack of comprehension; does somewhat beggar belief. Personally I am not for looking for individuals to blame, lets be honest clearly there is LOTS of blame that COULD be attributed, but my feeling is as a club it's best to bite the bullet and get on with it and we fans should assume the club and individuals are now better informed. I can appreciate fans on here being 'royally pissed' about it, but some of them act like the family dog who suddenly turns and bites the hands that feed it, incomprehensible, but it happens. Looking forward to the next Aberdeen game COYS do us proud.
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3 hours ago, the barrhead teacher said:
Disappointed. However we must note club accepted they broke protocol whilst the Celtic and Aberdeen incidents were player centred. Do feel though punishments should have been same for all as it would have left clubs and players in no doubt what would happen. Unfair yes but at least the unfairness would have been ‘fairly’ meted out. Just have to get on with it. Might even be motivational 😷😷🤣🤣☹️☹️
Which protocol did we breech?
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On 12/2/2020 at 4:23 PM, Mr Optimistic said:
When the argument is well and truly lost resort to abuse. Have a good day 👍
It would appear to me that you are the one looking to start a fight in an empty hoose.......as ma dad wid say, Santaponsasaint stated in his original post 'There was rumours about Jim Gillespie wanting a artificial pith at SMP' he then went on to say first and foremost St Mirren are a professional football club with the first team and academy as the priorities. His point being I would suggest; is that we need to keep a grass pitch to fulfil these objectives, and I for one heartily agree with him, so he lost no argument simply because you choose not to understand, or! well you can guess the other option.
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11 hours ago, oaksoft said:
BBC announcing that 4000 fans will be allowed to attend matches after lockdown ends and for tier 2 areas I think.
About bloody time.
We can't cower under the bedsheets from this thing forever. Especially when death rates are so low.
Wonder whether Sturgeon will stop panicking and do the same up here?
only if you promise to vote SNP
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11 hours ago, shull said:
Like this lad have watched a fair few of his vids, cheerful, enthusiastic and very unpretentious, actually a breath of fresh air to listen to.
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1 minute ago, herman_munster said:
anybody got st mirren tv? I've only got the arabs feed?
yes its up
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19 minutes ago, shull said:
heid-the-baw
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1 hour ago, Bud the Baker said:
Split the first para because it is irrelevant to what we're discussing - Is there blame and to whom should it be attributed. Having said that it is disappointing to hear the "once in a generation" quote being used out of context again - it was never a guarantee and the circumstances in which the issue would be revisited (Brexit) were clearly laid out by the SNP in their 2015 manifesto.
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I've not really tried to defend "wee Nicola Sturgeon" over the pandemic although her hands are partially tied by the funding Westminster allows she's made many of the same mistakes that BJ has. Your argument that Scotland is subordinate to England and then that NS is entirely responsible is one I find contradictory also while Scotland is more rural than England the bulk of the population live in the Central Belt and cities like Aberdeen & Dundee, I think if you look at the map of current restrictions you'll find it pretty similar both sides of the border - urban areas high. rural areas low. Conditions where I live & work are far removed from the Brigadoon.
The main difference in my opinion is the seriousness with which NS has treated the country compared to BJ maintaining daily briefings while the Unionist parties complained to limit them being televised just before the second wave of the virus started - it's clear to me who's politicising the issue
. In contrast BJ was telling us to get down the pub and roping in Chancellor Rishi Sunak into stunts like delivering meals with no gloves on during the "Eat Out to Help Out" campaign. Just today you've got NI, Scotland and Wales advising against going out on Halloween while England are saying it's OK in Tier 1 & 2 areas.
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I've never tried to absolve the general public from their share of the blame but as I've said many, too many, times now the buck stops at the top and BJ, Westminster and the devolved governments must bear "the bulk of the blame" in that order or maybe you're correct and that's an outdated concept now.
Have to agree with a lot of what you said and I really am not trying to defend the indefensible; but, BJ has got 60 odd million chasing him for money, work, medicine, so on and so forth whereas............. well! you too can count. The big problem is the country needs to be functioning, as much as possible and I think that's what they are trying to facilitate, not always correctly I agree, but I think it's a bit like being handed a grenade that's about to explode, where do you throw it when your surrounded? anyway I have no wish to rival War and Peace so I will call it quits for now methinks
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2 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:
If you want to discuss Independence or Brexit I'd prefer to do it on the appropriate thread but what "self inflicted problems" and if Westminster is really to busy to deal with these "self inflicted problems" then perhaps they should give us Independence - I cannot see any relevance in your first para although I do detect the usual gammon whinging - you deserve to be slated for it.
As for the second wave getting out of hand I place the "bulk of the blame" on the government and have given at least half-a-dozen reasons for this, all of which you've ignored - very little of what has gone wrong is down to hindsight. I also blame people who fail to follow common sense procedures to but to a lesser extent, the malaise starts at the top & BJ is no Harry Truman, passing the buck around like it was a hot potato - oh and that is one primo mixed metaphor, you'll not see a better one today!
If you have no idea what "your fellow gammons" means then you must be Rip Van jaybee and I can see clearly now the rain has gone that you really, really, don't care.
I was simply using Brexit as an example to explain that at least the man appears to be doing what he and what his role as PM dictates that he should do with regard to the democratic wishes of those who elected him and his party. On the other hand, we have the wee lassie NS, who in direct contradiction of a referendum which supported staying in the UK is fighting tooth and nail to stay with Europe, in effect giving the finger to both BJ, England in general and the majority of Scots who voted to stay, even though her role should also mandate that she carry out the wishes of the people and of the UK government to whom both she and Scotland are subordinate. As for Independence, you had your 'once in a generation' vote and choose to stay and my feeling is there is no way you will be given the opportunity of another anytime soon. Self inflicted problems refers to the fact that both Scotland and Wales as far as Covid 19 is concerned are in charge of their own restrictions ergo any issues you have are either the fault of NS; or more likely people doing what people do irrespective of rules. My understanding is Scotland, being generally much more rural than down south is suffering less and of course given that the population of London is just under 9 million and all of Scotland is only 5.5 million, then the logistics of managing 9 million in one city have to be more challenging than that which NS has to deal with and Covid 19 wise that has to be a big factor.
Regarding blame, I can see where you are coming from re ministers who say one thing and do the other; but really; am I to believe that officialdom saying this many people mixing is ok and wear a / don't wear a face mask, eat out / don't eat out, work / don't work, keep a distance etc is going to be the main factor in spreading the virus? I say again your having a giraffe, personally I credit most people with a deal more common sense than clearly you do. I fall within the 'at risk' category and behave accordingly, I believe a lot of younger people don't think the virus is such an issue for them and they are possibly correct, however they can still pass it along and my feeling is that, that is how a fair amount of transmission is happening. plus parties and illegal mass gathering of which there have been many.
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7 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:
Nope I'm not having a 🦒 and I never said the government was entirely to blame but I still say they must bear "the bulk of the blame" for the reasons given above - is it any wonder mask wearing is not universally upheld in the country when it took the government down south over two months between easing lockdown restrictions before introducing limited & insufficient face mask rules which had to be augmented in September which in itself was another inadequate measure as he should have been prepping us for tougher Tier restrictions that he had to do a month later.
The government down south moved into lockout too late, and when they started to come out continuously downplayed the seriousness of the situation, failed to deliver on promises and BJ personally shattered the "we're all in it together" mood of the country by supporting his favourite SPAD who had lied in print about where he spent isolation before going into the comedy business with his Barnard Castle routine.
Everyone has to look at their behaviour over this period but I maintain "the bulk of the blame" lies with the government.
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It's less than a month since your fellow gammons were saying that the number of cases didn't really matter if the death rate remained low...
...the next few months are going to be scary!
The government down south have got larger and slightly more urgent problems to deal with relative to the self inflicted problems of Scotland or Wales and that includes Covid 19 as well as other issues. For my expressions of those views I have no doubt I shall get slated, but that does not make them any the less factual. BJ like him or otherwise (and I was never a big fan) has at least followed the democratic wishes of the people in the UK and did more about Brexit than let us just say the previous encumbant. Scotland and the remainers here have been of no help and the wee gormless lassie that runs the SNP just wants her European Mammy. I would say that both of these actions are at odds with democracy, or do we only advocate that when it suits us or supports our points of view.
As for who is to blame re lockdowns etc? I cannot argue with the Covid facts and things could have and perhaps should have been better, quicker, more effective, but hindsight is always so very very useful a tool for those who wish to denegrate those who had to actually deal with things the way they were and yes as far as the current resurgence of Covid cases; I blame the people who fail to follow common sense procedures more that someone who is doing their very best to try and keep the Country viable. Additionally I have no idea what "your fellow gammons" allude to but have a feeling it probably isn't complimentary, I really don't care.
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8 hours ago, God of war said:
Do u realise ur a fanny?
But of course it takes a cnut; to recognise a fanny.
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18 hours ago, faraway saint said:
The economy had to be opened up and the numbers were low enough to do so.
What slowly happened people forgot that the virus was still around and when the basics are not followed it spreads, as we have seen.
What Johnson said/done was not, in itself, the problem, it's people that spread it, no matter how many times you say it isn't.
Other countries have successfully, with some minor restrictions, opened up the economy.
We can't ignore that, I'm sure there was a considerable attendance at the F1 Grand Prix in Portugal yesterday.
God I just hate it when you are right!!!!
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18 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:
I don't think that's what I said, but Fairy Nuff, what I meant was that if the government had completed it's part of the bargain by delivering a adequate (not even "world beating"
) t&t system when the cases were low during the summer we might have avoided the second wave.
As I've said many times I'd always advocate taking the cautious approach when it came to wearing masks and re-opening the economy - mixed messages from BJ like saying the worst was over back in May, "go back to your office" in July, "Eat Out to Help Out" & re-opening schools fully both in August, student HoRs (the last two by both Holyrood & Westminster) in September when much of the work could have been done remotely and a few others that I've criticized on here caused the second wave.
For me the bulk of the blame lies in government failures not ordinary folk "not doing the basics".
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T&T can only work when you've got the numbers under control and I don't see us getting back there, so as I said it's pray for a vaccine and gammon it out.
Yer avin a giraffe surely, so let me get this right, in your mind one bloke got the rules wrong and everything is his fault, NOT the imbeciles who attend mass parties, gatherings, or those who ignore medical advice to wear masks, wash hands, and so on, it's all the bloke who got the rules wrong fault?
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1 hour ago, Yflab said:
He also....
“Worked for Saints and Celtic, mostly got guys player lower leagues, one guy who is at Saints just now, got a goalkeeper down south. Not at liberty to say...”
What? you mean you can tell me, but if you do you'll have to kill me................................ darn!!!
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9 hours ago, faraway saint said:
Christ, that's ambitious.
I don't know what makes you think we have a decent team but one thing's for sure, we don't have a decent manager.
and to be fair some awful (supposed) supporters.
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10 minutes ago, norrie82 said:
Cant believe your still going on about this. I’m done with it and if you want to reply next time try keep it clean . Really let yourself down with the swearing .
Don't jump into a conversation that wasn't aimed at you, I was responding to B.O.K. and never swore unless you consider bugger as a swear word and if you do you can f*ck off, and I stand by what I said earlier, you avoid responding by choosing to take offence.
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6 hours ago, faraway saint said:
Bored. 😴😴😴
Either that or yer nappys full.
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On 10/7/2020 at 11:28 AM, beyond our ken said:
I wouldn't focus solely on the passing of McGennis, the main point of that post is the kind of player coming in compared to how the opposition are performing in that department. So largely, his points are correct and well aimed.
You know; I don't believe that I queeried his points per se, it was more his attitude towards events that the manager, B.O.D. and Tony could do bugger all about, that is once Kyle had decided he wanted to go (and who can blame him, I certainly don't) what could we as a club have done and NOT looked like we were spitting our dummy out?
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1 hour ago, faraway saint said:
🤡🤡🤡 And you wonder why nobody engages with you. 😂😂😂
Well please join them, you patter is crap anyway:)
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16 hours ago, norrie82 said:
F face ? Class act
moving on now
Simply justifies my view of you, certainly not an 'old boy', nor 'good sir' but most assuredly as a f*ck face who chooses NOT to respond to my entirely valid points, but instead takes offense thus saving the need to.
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5 hours ago, faraway saint said:
That's his normal.
He got a grade A in hard man classes in primary school.
Sow and ye shall reap............weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee man, always a follower never a leader.
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5 hours ago, norrie82 said:
Your a happy clapper who will clearly accept anything. When did I also run any player down in this ? Kyle was a very good player who I feel would have made a big difference in our attempt to avoid relegation. It annoys me as I am sure it must annoy you that we no longer have his services. Sure the club may well have offered him a new deal and he might have decided his future lay elsewhere but I still feel he will be a loss and you can bet any player incoming won’t have his pedigree.
I also think we need to try and a avoid losing Players for transfer fees that will be below their value.
My point was that the clubs statements were embarrassing and this I think is a view shared by the bulk of our support. No player was ever mentioned and I am certain that without our captain the job just became a little harder .Finally to suggest being critical of a situation means I don’t support the team is ridiculous . I often say that this website gives a platform for discussion and yes a good moan at the problems we face. It’s nothing more than this and on matchday the team home and away can rely on my unconditional support “Old boy”
No wish to get into a barney with you good sir, old boy or even f*ck face, however you said the squad was "not good enough" and then go on to suggest that six specific players either do not, or will not, meet your seemingly rigorous standards. and I haven't a clue what a happy clapper is. As for suggesting that you don't support the team, where did that come from? certainly not my post, what I said re yourself was........... "Do people like yourself; running down members of our squad help? Is it at all productive? Possibly not would be my take on that question, we are St Mirren. we support our team...............ALWAYS. COYS". And finally, according to yourself "this website gives a platform for discussion and yes a good moan at the problems we face." but it would seem that only applies to your concerns and nobody can comment or criticise your thoughts, in which case I apologise............................................NOT.
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21 hours ago, norrie82 said:
The club is an embarrassment. I’m so disappointed in some of the things that are happening at present. As a fan today I thought we might get a wee bit of ambition like United signing the lad mcnulty. Just something to soften the blow of our captain being sold for peanuts. It’s always the same tho and we are a poorly run club that has made a fool of itself twice in the past week with ridiculous statements.
Anyhow if you look at the squad it’s not strong enough and the midfield is an area we don’t have enough depth. Sure Cammy and Ethan played well on Friday but will they have the physical and mental strength to go a whole season. I suspect not and McAllister has been nowhere near good enough whilst Foley and Durmus look a shadow of themselves. Throw in MCGrath who is tidy but has no end product. It’s a shame and also the lack of a goal threat now glaringly obvious.Yes I know it’s a moan and I know that people may well say I’m wrong but It looks like a squad that’s going down. Kenny McLean was sold and never replaced and this looks like the same. Same old saints desperate to get a hundred grand or so for a player who might have made a difference in the relegation fight.
i want to be angry but I’m actually just really fed up with this and fed up in general at the minute. If the board Think they can shout about top six with this squad they’re off their head. This team has the stench of relegation all over it.
Actually old boy, I think perhaps YOU are the embarrassment, the lad wanted to go and could have gone for free (or development money only) in January, so tell me what would you have done, he had been offered aa 4 year deal and didn't want to sign. OK; so did he take an unfair advantage and wait till he recovered from his injury and then decide to leave? Some might think so, but he was injured as a St Mirren player and entitled to receive the best treatment we could give him. Are we happy about it? No we are not. But has the lad done anything untoward? No he hasn't, so we suck it up and move on. Do people like yourself; running down members of our squad help? Is it at all productive? Possibly not would be my take on that question, we are St Mirren. we support our team...............ALWAYS. COYS.
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On 10/1/2020 at 4:59 PM, God of war said:
You obviously know nothing about Goodwin and the way he operates.
Antrim is possibly too much of a gentleman to tell you. YOU! know FECK all.
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Perhaps ye kid tak up Taxi-dermy ?