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Hmmm, lots of sychophantic bluster around this indeed , in fact I'll disgorge some.............
Being parochial for a moment in this context..............
For example sake, take a walk of an eveing around Govan hill, South side of Glasgow. There's a place that's had its character fundamentally altered , some would suggest erm , not for the better over the last decade. Might not be 'stuffed with immigrants' lol , but by the same token ask any policeman for instance on the demographic shift and the unbelievable correlation to increased 'reported' criminality , it's scary. Now that's before we see headlines from the likes of UKIP or the Daily Mail about the sub culture here and the not yet formally reported goings on ............... not yet in the public domain , but give it time.
On topic, Calais will be lucky if it ever re discovers a sense of itself, its a victim of Geography as much as it is a failure of Europe to attend to this cluster phucking abomination of a migrant/refugee/asylum/chancer/ * (delete as your ethics dicate) crisis.
I pass through Govanhill most days-it's not a hill and is not near Govan
That is beside the point, Many of my colleagues, live around there and have few complaints you wouldn't have heard decades ago when the area was largely white. Quite honestly, it is no more of a dump than it ever was and one of the main changes has been a shift from young couples in starter flats, middle-aged and elderly long-residing Glawegians to a somewhat younger and more ethnically diverse population where more kids are bieng raised than there were 30 years ago. It's no worse a place than the likes of Easterhouse, Possil, Castlemilk and a few others I could mention. There are quite a few non-european people there. Is that the point you are trying to make? You could make an equal comparison against largely caucasian areas that are as poor and deprived as Govanhill.
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some typical right-wing bluster on this thread
"ship them to america"
"send the buggers there"
We need to remind ourselves that very few of us can trace our roots back to purely british sources. Most of the asylum seekers are coming from places that have been comprehensively raped or screwed over by the UK, the US and our ilk.
And how booming would the economy be if agriculture, construction, hospitality, health and care had to pay to develop and retain indigigenous workers?
As i travel round the UK i now see more inequality , poverty and desperation than i have ever seen in my 57 years. It's mad to suggest that we live in some sort of benefits-laden utopia that attracts only the lazy and feckless.
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We want you to retire. Definitely one season too many posting for you, with your online legendary status tarnished.... Time to hang up the keyboard and leave with some dignity intact!
Given the propensity for replying to my posts- I think you would miss me a bit too much if I retired.
Not sure how you hang up a keyboard, especially on a phone. I know how to hang up a phone though but I don't think that is what you mean.
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Full stop at the end there mate, not a comma. Oh, and a capital letter 'I' required at the start of your last sentence. Not sure about the ampersand use either. Looks like a double space after 'grammar' too. You've blootered that sentence right over the Copland Stand roof.
talk about not doing irony.
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BOK has recently criticised travelling Saints support for booing a player, which didn't actually happen.
He then bizarrely said Paisley Golf Club is a bigoted institution which discriminates against Catholics. Also completely false, the captain of the club is a catholic.
A complete disaster of a poster.
recently- almost 2 years ago, and i repeated what was said on the radio and said "IF true"
Regards
the golf club-I was misled and apologised-what more do you want?
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Indeed.
Reasoned opinions I can live with.
Denigrating a player's or a manager's reputation in a cowardly manner is unacceptable IMO.
As is repeating your opinion every time in an unhinged and obsessive manner.
so you don't accept that back-handedly referring to me as a fanny is not abusive?
Too cowardly to do it directly and too cowardly to face up to what you did.
i'd go back to checking the punctuation & grammar. You were doing fine when you confined yourself to that,
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conversation not going my way?
im not interested in what is said by some although i will discuss my views as you will
the only personal attacks on here are on 1 player who had a bad game
and if u cant handle the 'discussion' and views and opinions of others then why even discuss if your going to be upset
p.s. mabe the farmers can give u some milk for your cornflakes
happy to help
happy to contradict yourself, you mean. You clearly expressed a wish that the thread be shut down because you didn't like the negativity. That clearly means you just wanted to see nice stuff. And why comment on what you are not interested in? That just doesn't make any sense.
Just to remind you of what YOU wrote, you sidestepped the topic and tried to poke fun or invite derision towards the person.
I can take everything dished out and more on here, doesn't mean I cant come back when someone oversteps the mark by labelling me a fanny in a cowardly way, not replying is giving in to the bullies. You joined in with the pack with your comment, fly with the craws and you get shot with them. anyway, back on topic, Thomson should have been dismissed for his antics and is not in a fit state to play at this level-both are relevant comments to make in a thread that invites discussion on the "legend" status. So I ask again, why not address the comments rather than dig at the person?
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if your not him then mabe his brothers uncles sisters sons perhaps?
not a personal attack just an observation
where is the personal parts? this is a discussion forum is it not?
wheres the insults? i disagree with you so i say so, isn't that what a forum is for?? discussion?
i seem to have touched a nerve
mabe ran out of milk for cornflakes or possibly a teacher due back at work this week?
not an attack or insult, just an observation
so the original comment was an attempt to be nice?
Just so you know, ignoring the subject and going for the poster is making it personal.
Being a teacher is a nice respectable job, but not one I'd take on. Not enough money and too much criticism.
I had porridge and a poached egg for breakfast today-cornflakes and milk play havoc with my IBS
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I understand fellow fans being protective of Thommo. He was one of the best signings in the last few decades and had 3 great seasons in a row after signing for the team he supported as a boy. I'm sure that along with the signing of Teale at the same time, his presence in the squad has helped to persuade other decent players to sign for us during his time with us. Over the first 3 seasons his signing worked out better than we could have hoped for, his goal scoring for us exceeded his scoring record at Rangers where he had more chances laid on for him. I'll always have great memories of his contribution in the semi-final and final of the League Cup win, and of his part in the overall standard of the few good seasons to watch us play football in the SPL (Danny Lennon's 2nd and 3rd seasons).
However, I won't give Thommo a huge salute for re-signing on reduced terms after we have been relegated, and after he missed half the previous season due to injury niggles and when many are anticipating that the best way to use him at his advanced years (for a striker) is to bring him on for the last quarter of a game, if needed. I can understand him wanting one more season where his career doesn't finish on the low note of a season plagued by injuries, bad management of the squad, poor performances by the team as a whole and disappointing form when he did return from injury last year. I think it is 50/50 (at best) whether he will recover his fitness, sharpness, confidence and enthusiasm well enough to go out on a high note this year or whether we see a continuation of him sadly remaining a shadow of himself in his last season. Obviously, all fans hope for the best possible outcome for Thommo and the club now that he has been re-signed, but I don't think there is any hate campaign involved in questioning the wisdom of his signing at this stage n his career now, or of making him club captain, or in discussing his own performance levels or how our new manager chooses to deploy a 36/37 year old striker throughout the season and what expectation levels are reasonable of the senior pro (and one of only a few over 30 year olds in the whole squad).
this is the point, it made no sense to commit a wage to someone that you expect will not feature every week or can only play part of a match.
Impact sub? for me that is a fresh set of legs that can give tired defenders a roasting-not someone who has to hope that the opposition have slowed down to his level before he can come on
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Really?
Have you read most of the posts?
They accept that, generally, he's not lived up to our expectations and he's been criticised accordingly.
It's sustained, personal and over the top criticism that most people have an issue with.
Maybe the poster is referring to the fact that supportive comments seem to get challenged fairly or not at all-unsupportive comments would attract personal attacks and unpleasantness
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Me too apparently.
I'm devastated.
Not that the OP is getting personal or anything.
However, I can generally use punctuation correctly, and start sentences with capital letters.
What was that about intellect or lack of it ?
The original poster in this thread seemed pretty supportive of Thomson. I didn't see him getting personal with anyone?
My first contribution was late in the thread, you ignored the subject matter and commented on me instead. Not even doing it directly, you used the snide (big word of the day for me) tactic of jumping in behind someone else to have a dig.
It's a big point for me- i wouldn't say anything on here that i wouldn't say to someone's face. You dont even have the integrity to have a go on you own but need to hide behind other people's comments in your attempts at bullying.
But if you don't have the intellect to interpret what YOU wrote correctly, regardless of the quality of the writing, than there's not much help i can offer you
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I can't go with the notion that any game or collection of games will define a season, unless they are closely contested affairs with the teams closest to us at the very top of the league.
we need a convincing win-dumabrton did well but Hibs have had the capacity to be atrocious for years now. Put in context we should expect a robust performance and a clear difference between us at the end of the game (hopefully in our favour)
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Thomo seems exempt from critisism and don't know why was terrible penalty and a professional footballer should be able to.at least hit target from 12 yards personally I don't think thomo is fit enough to start games hed be better coming off bench
like it or lump it, we are stuck with him till the season end or if he decides to call it a day. While i don't think he should have been given or should have taken the chance we need to try and use him as best we can. Problem for me is that we are so short of options that he will probably be expected to do at least the first 70 minutes in most games. That was always unfeasible and i'm angry that we are in this position. It is a tough division and we needed to be better prepared than this
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Apologies to all for going with the on-topic posters
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Well I can't comment. I lack the intellect to hold a conversation.
you can discuss whatever you want with me, but why the "seethe" post? Totally off topic and just a snide attempt to get at me (i love the word "snide" in this context).
Funny how the forum goes into meltdown just because someone takes a polarised view. All the wee bullies who couldn't hack it on their own appear from behind the bike sheds at the first sign of someone being a bit different.
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You guessed wrong, plenty of people on here could confirm we are two different people entirely.
Oh! Seemed to touch a wee nerve there eh?
not at all,
I know LP well and thoroughly disagree with most of what he posts. But it is the mob mentality of many on here that annoys me, people who cant resist rounding on someone on a personal basis just because opinions differ. And when the bullying doesn't work they result to smart comments and false allegations to try and look as though they are winning an argument.
Why can't you and your mates discuss the topic, rather than the person posting it?
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aye away back tae yer cornflakes
only a part pfffft
tainted pffffft
the life of a fickle football fan
this threat should be closed now nothing but negative
so the conversation isn't going your way-but why try to shut it down?
if the only opinion that matters is your's then we really are in the crap
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hmmm i can actually guess who this alias is
oh lord....
You guessed wrong, plenty of people on here could confirm we are two different people entirely.
Why do you feel the need to have a personal go just because you disagree with me? are you like Pozbaird, FTOF and a couple of others who lack the intellect to actually have a discussion without it getting personal?
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You missed out "ny".
Here to help.
still smarting after last weekend. How is the marking of homework doing?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The microcosm of the fickle football fan. Unbelievable.
I'll bet you'll be one of the first cheering if the big man scores a couple and we beat Dumbarton next week.
Surely with forums such as this set up to indulge the likes of yourself we should likewise give Thommo, a 15+ goal a season striker for 3 out of the last 4 years, the opportunity to bow out from the game and the club he loves on a better note than last year's injury blighted relegation campaign?
we can't afford to indulge people. Thomson should really have been shown the door after the spear chucking-any other business would have done so.
Now he gets to use up a salary to try and complete his "unfinished business". Ian Murray played a cute game with "will I sign him -won't i sign him" routine in pre-season and then promptly signed up his 2 former rangers team mates before doing practically any other business. It was a mistake on a number of levels
ETA, I'll always cheer the saints, but the "legend" of one man who played only a part in the cup win-no more a part than most- is tainted
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the playground bully and failed javelin competitor should accept he has had more than his due and move on
thanks for the already sullied memories
he should no longer be indulged as a player
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I feel we need about six weeks to get ourselves up to speed with this league and with the other three or four still to come in we could do better than I thought .Once we tighten things up and stop standing way off teams giving teams to much respect and concentrate on our own game we will be fine .
6 weeks?
sorry, that's just daft
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/st-mirren-paint-away-dressing-6211601
Good to see BC is busy, contrary to the view of many on here
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The only thing he owes St Mirren is his career.
He owes us thanks for the opportunity, but he would have made it to at least this level at many other clubs.
That is all he owes us
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good story, is this guy Ken's son?
Calais
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Apologies if i came over as the spelling & Gammar police- i don't do that and was just repeating an old joke about Govanhill, no offence intended there. My arthritis affects my typing and i don't spell chack on a football forum, a couple of no marks have pulled me up on just that point recently and I know how irritating that can be.