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Just to be clear, John McGinn has not sued the club. His representatives have raised a claim against the employee liability insurance on his behalf.
He may well pursue the matter in court if the insurance claim doesn't go his way but as things stand he is doing no more than you or i would do if claimed against another party for a motor incident
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I refer you to Faraway's post.
Also, it's a good idea, if you're trying to be smart, to use a capital "I" when referring to yourself.
You can try and refer me, but he's been on ignore a LONG time now. Don't feel the need to replicate it for me, if that is the kind of person who is a preferred source of referrence then I am wasting my time with you. Enjoy life in the gutter with the paper hard man, it says so much more about you than I ever could. (enough caps in there for you?)
Thanks for the typing lesson though. I clearly annoyed you enough that you felt the need to try and look smart
I left out a full stop so you can have something to do with your Sunday
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It must be true then.
i take that as an admission that you are wrong then
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Fud.
cup legend and sorely mistreated former employee of SMFC in many people's opinion
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Hardly a huge step up.
Hibs weren't a premiership standard club last year, or this year, and may not be next year either.
so you and the alias who liked your post agree with me
Lovely!
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Indeed.
A very unfair deal for a young player.
Strange that someone so vociferous about being fair to young players, with respect to contracts, would be advocating such a deal.
To be fair, it certainly wouldn't be the first time he's contradicted himself; whatever pathetic alias he's posting under.
I can confrirm that he does not post under any aliases, except that Lord Pityme is not his real name?
So he posts under the same number of pathetic aliases as yourself.
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There's no way any young player would agree to a deal with a one way option.
Would you? If you're any good you can't leave, but if you are rubbish we are letting you go for nothing.
If I was a youngsters agent I would certainly advise him to stay well away from a deal like that.
it is always the club that exercises the option, maybe not reasonable but if both parties can exercise it then it is not an option but a mutual obligation
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I don't think so. As I was thinking earlier, a plethora of young players took pelters a few years back for lacking ambitions when they joined new Rangers instead of moving their career on. Hibs is not a step up for McGinn, as a young lad who has played his entire career in the top league, it represents a backwards step for him.
the backward step was St Mirren's relegation-he has clearly moved up in the footballing world now by joining Hibs. we were not a premiership standard club last season and are definitely not one this year
he was thinking of where he is, rather than where he was,
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the only funny thing ever in Little Britain was a sketch where the only gay set up his LGBT section in the library
at the front was a book by Portillo called "tried it once and didn't like it"
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Surely what the club get for the development fee abit of it will go towards Murray's transfer budget
Keep hoping. the budget's are set and stuck to at St Mirren
I very much doubt this gives Ian Murray any more money to use, especially since any compensation will be a long time in coming
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Just want it to be done with so Murray knows as soon as possible how it's going to impact on his budget. Get shot of one player who doesn't want to play for us, and bring in one who does. Simple.
Get shot?
FFS, he is already gone, some weeks ago. How much longer before people get their heads around that
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the last thing we need is another immobile striker
I thought he could dive
that is a form of mobility
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Remember something years ago like this. Think it was Bryce Curdy?
he was a mazda presenter
it must have got osrammed in there
i wonder, was it a screw-fit or bayonet connection?
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The big question is are the vomitory gents toilets snotters still there from last season?
there are no toilets in the vomitories, which are the passage ways that lead from the front of the stands to the main under-stand concourse
Unless, of course you can't make it from the stand to the concourse.
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Unfortunately Shull seeing as you try your best to start more threads than anyone else it is pretty difficult to avoid the ones started by you.
I think even you might understand that until you open a thread you don't know who started it.
Hundreds of people went to game today found there seat dirty moved to a clean seat end of story no big deal but not you.
Ejaculated at prospect of starting another meaningless thread.
More mess
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Why I would agree with you, agree with you I would indeed.
If it were not for the fact that you clearly hate decent supporters of the Saint Mirren football club pte ltd co and you use this internet forum to habitually attack the Saint Mirren professional football club pte ltd co and those who follow said Saint Mirren professional football club pte ltd co.
Your stylised approach seems to amuse a few on this forum,most notably yourself.
What your musings and stylings fail to cover up is the fact that you know sod all about the poster in question, his regard for the club and long-standing association and support for the team, so in case you didn't notice whilst constructing your latest rambling, you've just derided and attacked a long-standing supporter of the club-well done (pot, kettle, etc)
But as long as you are amused
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Yen? Are the Japanese also interested?
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We should definitely judge people's character on what they did when they were 7 years old.
I didn't watch the footage, but the narrative says that the QM made the salute and the kidies followed. i think it is more of a commentary on the royal family at the time than it is of a 7 year old girl
What is worth thinking about is what could have happened in OUR history had there been any show of public support or adoration of the nazis by the royal family, in that context there is some worth in releasing the footage.
But i don't think that is what the journos were up to here.
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I'm guessing they went there looking for an actual phoenix and decided to settle for some gull
a very gullible gull, by this account
But they were outside the movie house-maybe they thought they were kidnapping George Seagull?
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I've stood up for McGinn 100% in the entire 'speargate' fiasco as he was within his rights to claim.
This, however leaves a rather poor taste in the mouth if I'm honest. It's clearly been manufactured to bypass the compensation system set in place to give clubs like ours a fighting chance when a player does come through and prevent them being poached. Clubs like ours need this system and it's shite that it can be clearly exploited like this.
Just like it was John's right to claim against personal injury, it's St. Mirren FC's right to receive the compensation due for developing the lad's career and to have a slimy agent and player bypass that via a loophole is a sore one to say the least.
Look at McGinn's position. With no offers coming through from UK clubs to pay the compensation (remembering that we really only get a meaningful amount from an English team-the comp is much less if he were to go elsewhere in Scotland) he faces the prospect of playing for us on the same or less money than previously, or going somewhere where the compensation is much less or even nil, or just leaving football. Without being faced with his choices we can't really judge him on his actions-it is never as black and white as it seems.
And, for all we know, the offer made by SMFC may well have been a derisory one that he was bound to turn down and was only made so that we could get the compensation if he went south.
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It was somebody from Houston that speared him in Paisley!!!!
Right.....here's a plan.......McGinn goes to the.USA...He'll be made for life.....Good luck to him.......BUT.......Whatever money he makes from "the claim he donates to the Club.
Over to you John........
Chances are he was on satutory sick pay whilst recovering from his piercing, he must have been losing money for others to offer to share their win bonus (such as it was) with him. I think he should keep any money he gets
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I take it McGinn will have no problems getting a work permit or whatever over there? I mean he's not an internationalist, and he's not going to boost the profile of the league. I take it their rules are a lot easier going than ours, as I guess if he was an American trying to come the other way he would struggle?
Owen Coyle got a manager's job there
how hard can it be?
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Good luck John,sorry the the club spear-shafted you and that your own fans turned on you for simply standing up for your rights
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back on topic
i been felt too, but i didn't get mad about it
John Mcginn - Out Of Contract, Away, Farewell, Jacks Grandson Thread.
in General St. Mirren Discussion
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so the club dropped the level of fee to avoid someone else getting a bill for injuty compensation that would have run only into the hundreds or low thousands of pounds?
It would be interesting if it didn't smell of - Bullshit