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  1. I saw the original stage show at The Cottier Theatre many moons ago. It was based on their sketches in Chewin The Fat. I may be having a senior moment, but I'm not sure it was called Stiil Game? Maybe 'High Livin' or Victor & Jack or sumfin.

    ETA

    I heard that the Hydro show was going to be mainly reruns of sketches from the TV show. Can anyone confirm?

    How "new" can it be. a new show with variations on familiar themes in my opinion

  2. As I suspected.

    You just made the figures up off the top of your head. Thanks for confirming.

    Whatever, i offered an opinion and gave you the information i used to base my assumptions on, it is a debate-or so i thought. i didn't realise we had already evolved from a fascist state to your stalinist dictatorship since thursday.

    incidentally, you realise that to deny Brown & the vow had an effect on the vote had a galvanising effect on the swithering NOs is just as spurious as any other viewpoint. to argue otherwise is to offer the stalinist viewpoint that opinion is fact as long as it comes from the party.

    i am just watching a straw poll at the labour conference coming out in a majority for GB going back into the front line of labour. His recent intervention was unwelcome to me but clearly galvanised the swithering NO vote-to what extent is unclear, but it happened.

  3. How did you arrive at those figures of 2-5%?

    Did you just make them up off the top of your head?

    On your second point, do you know a 'hue amount' of people? And specifically, do you know a 'huge amount' of people who were going to vote yes and then switched to yes? How many people are we talking about? How did you ask them all? Did you manage to ask them all over the weekend?

    Or did you just make that up off the top of your head as well?...

    beyond our ken, on 21 Sept 2014 - 21:42, said:snapback.png

    I think the vow, coupled with previous assertions of more powers probably accounted for anything from 2-5% of a late swing

    concentrate hard Phil, the words in bold are important. You have to read ALL of the words in a sentence to understand what the WHOLE sentence means.

    Living in Fife, i can tell you that Brown's intervention on THAT bandwagon took a huge amount of voters over to NO

    • TV and radio reports
    • local newspapers
    • talking to local politicians
    • speaking to people who work at rosyth dockyard, grangemouth, longannett and other places with large Fife based work-forces. Also, my wfe is involved in local politics, as are some of our friends and they have knowledge
    • 24 years of living and working in this area telling me how Brown is almost sanctified by the local labour party
  4. True "blame" is too strong a word.

    I apologise.

    May I refer the right honourable gentle to the post that uses the same poll results as that which, I believe, gave Tam M his opinion, and that shows that if all the votes cast by the 65+ were removed the result would still have been a No.

    I think tam realises that emotion probably led him to make too much of the over 65s vote

  5. How many people that actually voted no did so on the "vow". I personally think this is being overhyped and think it was in the Yes side's game plan in the event of a No vote. I heard them on the BBC show ~6am on the result day saying that they only lost due to the extra powers coming to Scotland. I really don't buy it, the "Vow" was a bit of panic reaction very late in the day when some of the polls got down to 50/50.

    I think the vow, coupled with previous assertions of more powers probably accounted for anything from 2-5% of a late swing

    Living in Fife, i can tell you that Brown's intervention on THAT bandwagon took a huge amount of voters over to NO

  6. One of the most important ' stats' is that the percentage of people who want independence has gone up from 25% to 45% in less than five years!

    Other important stats, no campaign had £2.6 million to spend , the yes £1.8 million.

    The no campaign had countless billionaires , the yes campaign had two lottery winners and two homegrown tycoons

    The no campaign had countless heads of state from across the world, yes had Kim Jong -un apparently.

    The no campaign had the BBC, SKY, ITV and countless news papers , we had the herald .

    To be honest I think it's a bit of a miracle that we took it so close, and if you ever feel that all is lost, just remember the story of Robert the Bruce and the wee spider in the cave......

    George monbiot of the guardian shares your view

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/16/media-shafted-people-scotland-journalists

  7. Someone suggesting to me what media I should watch and I assume advocating that I don't pay my licence fee. SPIN

    Someone suggesting to me where I should shop. SPIN

    Somebody telling me that we should blame a particular group of people. In this case because of their age.OUTRIGHT LIE

    Interesting.

    It must have taken a pretty twisted attitude to put that twisted spin on tam's words.

    Interesting

  8. I was at the show on Friday, plus first time in Hydro.

    In my opinion, show was ok and well put together,

    I think its difficult, however, to take a tv show like Still Game onto the stage, especially in an arena such as the Hydro and I found myself watching it on the big screens.................which made me think I would be just as well watching it on the telly!

    Also, I got a bit pissed off with people constantly going in and out to get drink (or go for the inevitable piss) during the show. Starting to sound like an old fanny now!!

    when i go to any kind of show, it is to see the show itself so the amount of people getting WELL pissed at the matinee was pretty unpleasant. The guy next to me could hardly walk straight at the end and collided with everything on the way out

    Also-Cheeseburger and chips at a show? I just don't get it

    this was also my first time at the Hydro and it is looking pretty degraded at only one year old

    anyone who goes should park at the science centre and cross the bells bridge-the multi storey next door has only one exit ramp for the thousands of vehicles it holds. took an hour and a half to get out

  9. I look forward to the early retirement of Mr Alex Smugness.

    He may have been a committed nationalist from his early career but his performance in the last two years has been woefully short of gravitas, humility and manners.

    At last the West Lothian question will be aired properly and that will test how the UK will react to the future. Interesting that a Scottish Referendum has managed to bring that issue to the fore.

    Ahh, at least the debate has not killed the good old scottish cringe. anyone with confidence and a vision for us all is written off as smug if they are scottish, but get votes if they sport another accent.

    As for the WL question, one commentator said today that the the answer to that question is to ignore it. if you want these issues carefully explored then i say be careful for what you wish. Having already bared your lubed-up hind quarters to westminster, do you really think it wise to neck a few rohypnol and spray on some perfume?

  10. I am only disappointed that we passed up a great chance to ditch the UK charabanc as it heads inevitably for the buffers

    i understood all the fears of no voters about future uncertainty in independence-however we now have a factionising UK that has few options in reducing it's indebtedness and which still believes that we offer ourselves as an option in the area of world security with leased nuclear weapons and a reducing fighting force. That is the more serious uncertainty that threatens future generations. The rather weak extra powers will be taken in exchange for a still weaker voice in the UK. I think, by default, we have given the westminster elite more than they could have hoped for- a federal UK where guys in westminster get to act like players and the rest of us get to argue over council tax.

    I can only hope that my hunches are wrong, and

    • gordon brown is telling the truth for once and not just seeking to re-establish himself in UK politics
    • Scotland actually gets a commission looking only at Scottish powers and we don't end up being <10% of a fudged-up body looking at Fed-UK
    • The UK stays in Europe

    Disappointed also that noodles like cameron & Hammond get to impose their ill-conceived world view on nations repeatedly fecked over by UK & USA by virtue of them representing the UK. i think, in times to come, those are the issues that people will use to judge this as a missed opportunity.

  11. hope No voters aren't intimidated. My son tells me that a fair number of people think polling centres are going to be nasoty places to go tomorrow. We'll see if that's true.

    I really can't see the Scottish people throwing themselves into the abyss like the Gadarene swine on the back of Eck's agenda which reads like a Christmas wish list.

    Maybe the polling centres being mostly in schools is what is putting them off

    I can see how that upsets them. All the books and learning and stuff

  12. Old news surely. Scotland assumed you drew the line horizontally from where the border reached the sea but apparently the line should continue in the direction it was actually heading when it reached the coast.ie North East. No doubt it won't matter after Friday anyway.

    So we get Ulster then? Stuff that!

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