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  1. 2 minutes ago, billyg said:

    Boyd Munce should never be in the side ahead of Baccus , McMenamin looks as if he wants back across the Irish Sea,  Tanser got his new contract and has regressed to last season's form , O'Hara has stopped running , which is the main part of his game. I could go on !

    When i had the temerity to suggest CBM wasn't contributing I was told on this forum that his play alongside Baccus was a thing of beauty and that O'Hara would not get back in ahead of him.

    It's pretty clear that Baccus is the driving force in the middle and provides the spark (when it is there) and the other players don't know what to do without Gogic in midfield.  Jamieson was disappointing yet i still think he will do very well for us.

    In all honesty, aside from home v the fakes we have been shit since that cup game at Easter road.

    As for Mandron, he seems to lack the heart for a battle and all of a sudden Jon Obika looks like a goal machine again in comparison.  Instead of decorating lamposts maybe we should have a whip-round for Van Veen on loan in the new year

    It's our perrenial problem, the opposition suss out both the tactics in the Robinson playbook and they know we can't score.  That means they only have to sit it out and hit us on the break in the way Dundee did so effectively against us.  

    Very quickly, we need to go to 4 at the back or even 5 with 2 holding in midfield, but we don't have that many decent defenders in the squad.  If Robinson can figure out how to get the door closed at the back then fine, if not then he has the kind of trouble that very few managers can get themselves out of

  2. 7 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

    Did you not see how Celtic struggled to beat St,Johnstone today 

    We hardly had a shot on goal against Ross County 4 days ago

    Is Motherwell ever been a easy fixture 

    7 points love your confidence I would bite the hand off you for 5 

     

    We really need the 9, get those and a win at Tynecastle will see daylight between us and them with Hearts still to come to Paisley before the split.  Apart from the glasgow two, Hibs in the cup and Dundee I don't really see a bad performance from us, just lacklustre ones in a few games

    We can do this as long as the manager can get his head round why we have fallen off so much.  he talks about a small squad and injuries yet doesn't utilise Bolton and Jamieson so 

  3. I had hoped we would be considering offers to let him move on in January.  Being out until April means he wont get fully fit again this season and that will maybe have a knock-on in terms of the offers he might have expected to get for a PCA.  His injury record is significant and he really needed to get to january fully fit to cash-in on his next move, maybe he will accept that extension now as he needs a supportive club behind him rather than the uncertainty of what the summer might hold for the out-of-contract players, expecially those with a fitness concern.

     

  4. We need to win this one as the fakes will be looking to reverse that defeat in Paisley which marked their low-point, getting a point or better against us will be seen as proof they are going somewhere again.  We should be targetting Clarke for some harsh treatment as he is a thorn in our flesh, he annoys me so much I think we should sign him at the next window.

    Winning on Wednesdsay would get the tails up again, Hearts are unlikely to get a win v rangers so we could be challenging for 3rd place again and beating Ross County & Motherwell after a win in Perth could see us in a match to consolidate 3rd place again at Tynecastle right before Crimbo, Happy holidays and it all starts in a soul-free trench on the outskirts of Perth this week

  5. 37 minutes ago, Ronnie said:

    "All the good work will be as good as gone"we are 5 points clear of team in 7th place who upon checking are away at Aberdeen & Livingston and home to Celtic next 3 games so very good chance we will still be well in top 6 at end of this busy month.

    I say this every year but no matter what teams are involved the amount of wins,draws and defeats stays very very similar each season the fact we are 2/3 victories more than most teams already suggests that if we keep ticking along the odd win here and there the 9 teams below us won't win enough matches to overtake us pre split.

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    We are not ticking along at all just now, 3rd, 4th and fifth place are big prizes in this league and you have to seize them.  You don't get there by jogging along with a bit of limp as awe are just now.  We petered out after the split last season and if we had to compete to stay in the top 6 then we would not done so.

  6. 1 hour ago, billyg said:

    It was a "go through the motions" performance for us against a not very good Rangers , we got what we deserved . A repeat v the Fakes during the week and all the good early work will be as good as gone. Too many big players not turning up , team needs a complete refresh ! I'd be starting Bolton , Small , Nahmani and Jamieson this week !

    What is the point of signing players like Bolton and not using him when the defence is not delivering?  McMenamin took a while to get going for us and after some good performances has fallen away so I'd say that the very lively LJ should be given the chance to put Conor under pressure.  Small is definitely a player and has both strength and pace, so why not use him?  As for Nahmani, maybe get him some minutes on the pitch.

    Good to see Ryan Flynn back in the team

    for the fakes game I'd like to see Bolton, Fraser and Dunne across the back with McMenamin or Flynn and Small as wing-backs.  Get Alex back in his best midfield position alongside O' Hara with Jamieson linking back to the midfield supporting Ayunga and Olusanya.

    Good players like Kiltie, Tanser, Baccus and Mandron have flattered to deceive with good-looking play that really hasn't delivered anything much for a month now.

    The fakes give me the fear right now, it's a bad tie to try and turn things round in. Clarke usually manages to get a goal against us and they won't be as bad as they were in Paisley a few weeks ago.  That shitty hole-in-the ground stadium also seems to suck the life out of our performance there.  We need to rise above the environment, the reaction they have given Levein and our really poor recent form.  I thoroughly applaud the way we started the season, it was enough for me to suspect that Robinson really is a top manager and the proof of that will be in turning around this languid spell that has already run for too long.

  7. 8 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

    Despite claims to the contrary, the draw will be rigged with lower-league sides being paired up with league 2 teams and there will be a sprinkling of all premiership ties, maximum of 2.

    Any "giant-killing" (what fekkin giants?) will take place on frosty or boggy pitches in the hell-holes of Ayrshire or similar and not on a Saturday afternoon.

    Places I hope to avoid are

    • Anywhere beginning with a B or a K
    • Any team whose name starts with The
    • Inverness & Dingwall

    Bumpity

  8. 42 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

    If it’s any consolation to you my cilice is itching like hell! I am not the first and won’t be the last to post stuff on here without fact checking. It did remind me of a story that a colleague told me some years ago, he moved from Glenburn to inchinnan, he was in the local pub and someone asked how long he had lived in the village? He said 20 years and the local said “ oh just a newcomer then” 

    O worked at the tyres and can confirm that people born in the hospital in Paisley were branded interlopers when taken home by the parents

  9. 19 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

    Two questions, who is we ? And who is the pitchfork brigade? I explained to you it was a late night post and I didn’t check the individual history of the two young men. I made an assumption based on the known demographics of immigrants to Ireland (male, single, 16-45) Ireland has seen a rise in population via immigration of around 25% since 2016, I assumed wrongly he was one of these people. 

    The actual article you quoted from confirmed that the guy who killed gays was in the country from the age of 6

    You should know that data sets which make up "known demographics" are indeed facts and while they may be interpreted in different ways they are never a safe basis for "assumption"

  10. 16 hours ago, W6er said:

    I'm not sure what you're referring to. Have you quoted me by mistake? 

    I'm typing this on my phone, so will be brief. 

    Immigration is an emotive and divisive topic. It's happening regardless of my own opinion, which is that it is not a net benefit. I am unlikely to be convinced otherwise. 

    I fully understand why people want to come to Europe and I don't blame them, especially those from the Middle East, given the carnage resulting from our masters' illegal wars there. However, I sympathise with the protesters (not the rioters), who feel that they have not been listened to. 

    That's my final word on the subject. 

    Apologies, i meant to quote Albion Saint who is currently suffering plantars fasciitis from an uncontrolled bout of pinhead dancing.

  11. Despite claims to the contrary, the draw will be rigged with lower-league sides being paired up with league 2 teams and there will be a sprinkling of all premiership ties, maximum of 2.

    Any "giant-killing" (what fekkin giants?) will take place on frosty or boggy pitches in the hell-holes of Ayrshire or similar and not on a Saturday afternoon.

    Places I hope to avoid are

    • Anywhere beginning with a B or a K
    • Any team whose name starts with The
    • Inverness & Dingwall
  12. 1 hour ago, shull said:

     

    I defer to the knowedge of our physio team here, surprised but delighted to see him come straight in for a start.  Is Olusanya injured, I suspect that is our best front two when available.

    On recent form, I'd like to see LJ get a decent run in the second half, he has been showing improvement and I think he is more direct than McMenamin so hopefully he is not far away from a starting slot.

     

  13. No game to be going to next week so I'm gutted to miss this one.

    I'll take us to win reasonably comfortably because close matches with Liv are such an unsightly scramble and when they score, expecially when they score first,  it's hard to get back at them.

    I don't know if Ayunga is ready to play, I'd say it's the wrong match for him to come back in unless we are cruising in the last 15 minutes

    2-0 or 3-0 to the saints, I think, or a very messy and hard-to-watch defeat.

  14. Just a wee mention of Ms O'Hanlon.  She does her partne a hige disservice by referring to Warren as a "Dublin man" and the other guy as "the Brazillian man".  Both are Dubliners who joined forces to end a murderous attack.  Two strangers who took action for the good of others.  Maybe she thinks the ill-advised gravy train that has been set up for Caio Benicio should stop at her door too and is willing to compromise evidence and stoke further racial discord in order to get on board?  Surely though, that jumper is evidence that the police would want as it would be pertinent to further charges and show evidence of intent and malice on the part of the attacker?  Just a thought.

  15. 1 hour ago, W6er said:

    I find @faraway saint's claims to be quite interesting. I would suggest that, given the EU dispersal programme, the refugees they accept would have a similar profile to those received by other EU countries. I'm sure I have read that crime stats in those countries indicates a disproportionate number of foreign offenders, so it would be curious why Ireland bucks the trend. I can think of one reason, but it's a wee bit controversial...so I will not mention it.

    Totally unrelated to the topic at hand, but has anybody seen the film Snatch? The riots made me think of it. Vinnie Jones basically plays himself, but Brad Pitt is magnificent:

     

    As for @faraway saint's stats - if non-native Irish constitute 15.9% of the prison population, but only 12% of the population, then that would imply they're committing an inordinate number of crimes.

    What the 'authorities' and mainstream media state at the moment should be considered with caution. They're probably trying not 'inflame' the situation. The government are also trying to pass 'hate speech' laws which, according to what I've read on Twitter (sorry, do not have time for sources), will criminalise criticism of people based on 'migrant status'. So, they will be desperate to portray the rioters as thugs who have absolutely no legitimate grievances at all. 

    Not sure about anybody else, but I'm curious as to the impact of the attacks on the victims, but there doesn't seem to have been much about them in the media. 

    Apparently, and I have not the time to substantiate this, but the media have hailed a Brazilian man as the exclusive hero, but it was a native Dubliner who actually tackled the man when he was wielding a knife:

     

    You seem to be making the massive assumption that the "non-Irish" are refugees, you can't know that.  Ireland has a lot of immigation and repatriation from the so-called English-speaking world. 

    You talk about mass stabbings in Europe, fair enough.  There are few mass stabbings in the US where mass-murder is almost a pastime and that is because access to guns is so easy and many mass-murderers there seem to be targetting ethnic minorities.  So maybe criminals in the refugee communities cant get access to guns so easily in Europe and maybe they'd do less stabbing  if the opposite was true?

    And let's jut have that "controversial" point you have teased us with.  No-one is going to judge you for a view any more severely than they have already.  But if you think you can take the debate forward with this view then let's have it as you seem to be quite wedded to it.

  16. 21 hours ago, W6er said:

    I think the upsetting thing about Ireland is that a lot of these people labelled 'far-right' are simply working class people who're concerned about the lack of affordable housing in their area, let alone their fear of lots of unvetted single men living in close proximity to them and their families. Can you blame them after the incidents in places like Rochdale and Rotherham? So they have demonstrated, as is their right, and been ignored and looked upon with disdain by those supposedly elected to represent them. Then yesterday a tragedy did happen and young children were stabbed. This comes not long after an attack in Dublin Airport, too.

    Added to that is the hypocrisy of the media and politicians, many of whom seemed to welcome the protests and riots in the wake of the death of George Flloyd, a convicted criminal, who died in a country 3,000 miles away. 

    If politicians are willing to simply dismiss the concerns of the people - and worse sneer at them - then this is the result. Seemingly, they have far more to say about the rioting than the fact that Irish children were stabbed on the streets of their capital city. 

    Now they apparently want to clamp down on the protests.

    As JFK said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

    From the IT article you appeared to have gotten your  information from

    "Palani, who is originally from Iraq and came to Ireland with his family when he was six years old, repeatedly insisted he was not gay despite forensic evidence showing he engaged in sexual activity with at least one victim."

    Hardly a failure of multiculturism or uncontrolled migration, is it?  and it took me seconds to find that piece.  So please, retract away to your heart's content.

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