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3 hours ago, bazil85 said:
Just hope it isn’t another Aaron Mooy situation where we cut loose a great prospect without realising what we have.
Toy moving on (and probably Mandron) in the summer could have given an opportunity here.
It's not just prospects. While we have unearthed very good pros in the last few years, several have either complained about family ties or stuff outside football in order to get released. 2 very good defenders and a very good goalie have ended up on Tayside and James Bolton is back in the north of England. All were contracted for longer periods and were simply released, yet we pay a fee for players who spend more time in treatment than on the team sheet and they generally just see out their contracts (or in some cases have them extended with no prior evidence of a return) without making the expected contribution. Our signing failure rate is high and there are a few ex players in the premiership we really could do with just now.
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1 hour ago, CraigyBoy said:
He was one of 8 strikers at the club
Realistically he wasn't going to get a proper opportunity - Toy , Mandron , Oseni and Mooney at a minimum were all ahead of Given him in the pecking order
This deal suits all parties - hopefully Robbo is given the money to use this window
I think we have probably spent all the club intended to by getting Oseni, so any upfront money we get could be spoken for. Admittedly the squad isn't currently strong enough to get us back into a conference qualifying place so mid-table safety is priority 1. Maybe some of the crocks will recover and get us back on track but with only a couple of months to the split and other clubs looking stronger we have maybe missed the boat on top 6 so no big spending.
If it wasn't for the injuries and unplanned departures I think most if not all of the graduates in the first team would have been moved on by now
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On 10/19/2024 at 1:39 PM, Clydebanksaint said:
Do we really need 2 threads for this drivel he is no longer a st mirren player so time to it this to bed.
Just go to your bed then.
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Had to beat Hearts for our last 2 trophy wins, good to get them in Paisley
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12 minutes ago, shull said:
Thirty Three pounds for a ticket for Dens Park tonight.
Outrageous
A disgrace that both clubs are complicit in.
They will be getting telly money as well
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I used to work in Houston a fair bit and several of my colleagues were based in an arc from Panama city, through Louisiana and East/Southern Texas. They relied on Mexican labour for everything from house-painting, groundworks and roof-tarring to gathering the harvest on family farms. Despite their reliance on the cheap labour, they still treated them really badly saying they couldn't trust them. The real criminals are still safely holed up outside the USA.
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1 hour ago, alanb said:
Another move or on the bench ??
That's anyone's guess. The manager has expressed a preference towards taking on players with some attributes he likes and trying to shape them into something better. I'd say that there is more chance of that with a 20 year old who has been well coached and physically well conditioned for a few years than there is with a journeyman who is on a treadmill of loan deals in EFL leagues 1-3 (or lower). It would be great to see if Kieran is the one who can do it because, of all our forwards, only Olusanya is currently showing any kind of threat up front. We have just signed Oseni though and although I really hope not, it could close the door on Kieran who might be off to the likes of Raith or maybe Ayr. If the reputed £70k offer from Crusaders is true then perhaps there is a slightly bigger offer coming, or maybe Saints are saying to Crusaders "up your offer or lose him completely". The again, maybe Kieran is being recalled as injury cover for a forward the manager has just signed or hopes to land in the next week, you never know.
With several young players reaching a certain stage of maturity and getting in to the second half of their current deals, I think this window will be a good indicator of where the manager intends to take us in terms of player development.
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28 minutes ago, faraway saint said:
Beneath contempt? 🤣🤣🤣
ONE thing over 10 years ago.
Away and get over yourself. 😒
If only it was one thing, I wont remind you of specifics but the amount of time you and others spent pursuing him, Roddy and others was a disgrace. And over 10 years ago? You would have been in your 50s then and old enough to know (but not seemingly care)better.
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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:
The level of research you do on this is really alarming.
You'd think you have an agenda....... Oh wait, it's a family thing. 😏
Well you'd know about the family thing as you have tried to use the family thing to get at me before. And some of the stuff you directed at my brother was beneath contempt.
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The guy hasn't played in a year, how long does anyone think it could be before he is available for us?
In October, the Wrexham boss said he wanted to put him in the squad for the start of 25, however the player wasn't where he wanted to be regarding strength and power (are those 2 different things in a player?)
So he is not in the squad for Wrexham, which means he is not at the required fitness levels to be listed as being fit at any point in the remainder of their season. A seemingly very good player whose current manager is not willing to risk in the next 5 months due to a back injury. I hope he is fit and does as well as expected for us if we sign him.
In this situation, it seems that this signing would be based more on hope than reality when it comes to fitness. Maybe he is willing to "play through it" in the hope it will be alright.
And save the broken record routine, the list of signings who come to us with a bad injury history that just doesn't get better is alarming.
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8 hours ago, billyg said:
Tony Forde , experienced RWB from Wrexham , rumoured to be joining on loan , and signing a PCA. Played over 400 games , including Wolves , Rotherham and Oxford. Lost his place recently through injury and cant get back in.
Injury, Eh? And he is Irish too. Talk about breaking the mould?
Just might be worth taking a punt on the guy, It can't really go wrong.
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19 hours ago, Saint@Johnstone said:
Was quite impressed with QOS yesterday, tried to play some good football. Saints, however, were pretty poor after rushing into an early lead and until the third goal went in, it was a nervy end to the match. The throw ins from Penman were huge, just like a corner kick , he had a good game. Have to say, how can a professional footballer pull up after about two minutes on the pitch ? Poor show. Anyway, hoping for a decent draw as the last few years we’ve been unlucky in that respect.
On recent experience, the the ability to be both permanently and easily injured is a pre-condition of signing for Saints
From his Wikipedia
He sustained a calf injury in a 1–0 defeat to Bolton Wanderers at Vale Park which saw him ruled out for a minimum of eight weeks
County finished in the relegation/promotion play-off place at the end of the campaign, which the club won. However, Iacovitti was unable to feature due to injury.[34]
"He suffered an injury early in the 2024–25 season, which kept him our of action until Christmas"
"signing a two-year deal with St Mirren, who paid Port Vale an undisclosed transfer fee."
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Trump says a lot more than he means.
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I have a concession ticket that is free of charge for anyone who is attending and isn't yet in possession. I am reliant on public transport this weekend and it is simply too long a journey time for me.
If you want the ticket then it is available to the first genuine concession qualifier, please PM me.
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On 11/25/2024 at 2:34 PM, portmahomack saint said:
Yes was stung myself for £800 with one of those scams, was a text msg Dad it's your daughter I've lost my iphone and need another one for my job can you send me £800. what else is a dad to do when your daughter is in trouble, so I sent it over on the details provided, Fly Bastards the are
I should have smelt a rat as I don't have a daughter just 2 boys
You know this for sure?
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1 hour ago, fmckinn said:
Some really well worked goals there
That surface probably cost us another 5.
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On 1/4/2025 at 1:49 AM, shull said:
Not enough to persuade the manager about a recall, he apparently spoke to Fraser recently and just told him to work hard and keep it up with no talk of coming back.
Fraser himself says he is very happy at Arbroath for now, maybe he doesn't plan to stay there but i just get the impression that the manager isn't feeling it. His track record suggests that he favours big units on the pitch and that creativity isn't enough, we'll see as if he cant secure more signings we could be down a couple more players by the end of the window with Jamieson and Scott seeming to be moving on, Adeniran failing to feature (maybe the Jaden Brown fall-out), Idowu just not being very good and even a rumoured £70k offer for Offord from his loan club being on the table we could be down maybe 6 players plus crocs from the 1st team squad we started with.
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22 hours ago, Eric Arthur Blair said:
Really sad if that is all there is for Kieran, maybe get him back for the rest of the season and then consider a move if he can't break through here.
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On 10/27/2024 at 1:06 AM, shull said:
Looking good, but get him back before he is dining in the same eateries as some of his team mates
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4 hours ago, lenziebud said:
He delivered at Motherwell so much so that Hull signed him.
He has lost his way and for me is drifting out the game slowly.
Hopefully can find his old form again and get back to what he can be.
Lawrence Shankland is an example for him but i have a feeling it won't happen
I really liked what I saw of him as a player, just lacking desire at times and I did notice he never really formed many understandings with his teammates on the pitch. Definitely something got in his head and i wonder if he just can't shake that thought of his injury.
On Lewis Jamieson, happy for him if he makes a success in the states and that is tempered with some sadness that an obviously talented young player didn't seem to break through with us. Seems we have no use for anyone who isn't sold on early after graduating from the academy as Lewis is definitely better than some of the so-called seasoned pros who are getting game time.
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5 hours ago, MenstrieSaint said:
I think he will be a good signing . Fast , versatile , hard working , 6ft three what's not to like .
All the same could have been said about Billy Mehmet
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18 hours ago, eastlandssaint said:
James Scott being linked with Ross County, Ayr United and Partick Thistle
I think a move is good for him
He has all the attributes but can’t deliver, which is a shame
But we gave him a 2 year deal last summer and we may well have to pay some of that up to move him on
another very poor piece of business by the club
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22 minutes ago, HSS said:
Bobby used to go on runs from defence to attack with the ball at his feet,quite skilful for a tall chap He scored 22 goals in 145 games which is brilliant for a centre half
Loved the Big Man 🖤🤍❤️
Quite often seemed he lost patience with the forwards when he went on those runs with the intention of sorting it all out by himself
brave player who refused to be intimidated by the older heads he faced off to when we were promoted
people finally stopped talking about how much we missed MCQueen when Bobby broke through and that’s probably the biggest recommendation you could get
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10 hours ago, faraway saint said:
What a hilarious summary.
You, whenever the opportunity arises, cite the poor signings that the manager has made.
Yet his poor signings have secured us 6th and 5th in the league, taking us into Europe for the first time in decades.
Aye, let's see what the end of the season brings before playing the blame game.
I don't lay all the blame on the manager as Gillespie has been very involved in recruitment policy, for a while we seemed to have a seam of good players to work and that paid off, but you cant argue that almost every one that he has paid a fee for has so-far failed.
Speculation Thread
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I wouldn't include Groyan Strain in that, i know he was out of contract. He has recurrent injury issues and I would have been happy for the club to not offer to extend his contact . I think he is not the 90 minute box-to-box RWB we tried to play him as.
I wasn't aware there was a fee for Gallagher, I would have preferred to keep him and was surprised the club gave him his requested move, gutted even. Shaughnessy has his faults but he is better and more adaptable than the likes of Iacovitti, there were hints of a fall-out between the player and coaches. Carson made an arse of himself, I know. Possibly the kind of player you can never keep happy.
Bolton signed a contract and knew what he was getting into, he proved really solid for us once he got in the side and I was disappointed he was allowed to leave.
One thing seems to stand out, the club seems to accommodate players wishes once we have spent money on their acquisition and/or development. With the exception of Taylor and maybe Gogic who overlapped some of these guys in their time here, we have replaced them with less capable players.