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Aye cos I’m sure the hundreds of pounds raised on the Just Giving page were used to paint black letters on a wee bed sheet...

Because I’m not a complete and utter IDIOT and I know how groups work... Mutual respect for each other and the willingness to work together even through differences of opinion. Doesny take a genius to work that out

Nothing to do with me not accepting his decision, as I have already said I am not a representative of the boys in W7 and what I am saying/feeling does not reflect what they are.

The decision of whether or not the banner should be made, had to be made by the group. As it is a group, if a suggestion is put forward there is a vote on this to determine whether or not it will be done, this vote was done and resulted in the banner being made. If one member of the group was to say they wanted to do it and everyone else said no then of course this would be ridiculous, but if the majority agree, the minority support the rest of the groups decision as it is made as a GROUP and represented by ALL members in the group.

Can I just further point out that I am in no way a representative of W7 and all the things I have stated in here are my own personal opinions and thoughts. So no, I haven’t done any of these things.

What I want is for the club, SLO & W7/Northbank boys to work together for the future, whether this is what all involved parties want I’m unsure of as I cannot speak for any of them. I am complaining about the lack of communication between the parties and the doors being slammed in faces with regards to this. Can I just point out that my views have absolutely no correlation to the views of the boys in W7, as I’m not a spokesperson for them, for lack of a better word. This is just what I think about the situation and what I think should be done about it. I am in no way saying the club are all wrong and the boys in w7 are angels, as that would be a complete bare faced lie. There is wrong doing on both sides and until they can both come together to fix this mess I’m not willing to say any more about this.

I’m afraid you’ve got this all wrong. I could continue this back and forth with you regarding this all night, but then again what’s the point? You obviously have the image in your head that the boys in W7/Northbank are all selfish little children who don’t understand anything about the adult world and don’t have respect for anything or anyone. If you ever become less judgemental and more open to other people’s point of view then let me know as I’d be happy to discuss this mater further with you.

Just because someone closes you down with an outright no, does not mean you are not entitled to further conversations to investigate further into the reasoning behind this. With that reasoning no one would ever get a job/promotion they have previously been rejected for or achieve something they’ve been told “no” for before.

No one is asking for the club to agree on every idea out forward from those in W7, only that better communications are to be had, rather than a one sided “telling off” which I believe is how members of Northbank/W7 have felt at previous meetings with the club. Supporting the team is what they are all about, I can assure you no one in the group wants things to be as hard as they have been and would love if things were more of a two way street with the club but up until not this has not happened. I hope this will change from now on though. The club has issued a statement after the event has already happened, rather than allowing conversation to be had before it did? It’s all a bit backwards to me. As I said I hope things will get to a point where both parties can compromise to reach an agreement on all matters and that the can communicate better for all future matters.

Entitled to what exactly? Being treated fairly by police and the club, which is all the boys from W7 are looking for?

Poor judgement it may be, but it was a hard decision that had to be made by the group. Regarding the police visits, the individual involved had done nothing to warrant this visit nor had any of the group members done anything to deserve being followed around the country by police watching their every move just looking for an excuse to warrant their decision.

Nothing to do wih an entitlement complex. Its down to the club to give adequate reasoning behind any displays / banners not being allowed, and in this occasion there was no club rules broken in the creation of this banner, so for what reason was it not allowed in? If it’s not against the clubs policies/rules, then what’s the issue?

The “present system” for what exactly? The process of getting banners/displays accepted? If so then what should be done is a list rules set out, agreed upon and adhered to by both parties, not just one side saying no, no, no then making up excuses for why things aren’t allowed. Dont understand what you mean about placing the SLO in a terrible position? The SLO was asked their opinion on the banner in question and they agreed that they didn’t see the issue with it, once this was said the door was shut by St Mirren, once again stopping any conversations that could have followed between the club, SLO & W7 affiliates. Trust me there has been plenty of perseverance and countless displays and flags that have been widely accepted by the fans and the club, but unfortunately these are all forgotten about whenever something happens they don’t like and all of a sudden the folks in W7 are painted in a bad light again. I can understand the frustrations from both the club and the boys in W7, what I can’t understand is why the club, when faced with adequate opportunities to communicate, choose not to do so?

So what happens when you deem something to be unreasonable and these actions are deemed acceptable by the person “in charge”, in this instance referring to Gordon Scott? If I don’t agree with something then I’ll make my point known, not just roll over and agree with everything that’s said because that’s just life and I need to deal with it. If that was the case humanity just wouldn’t progress.

I wasn’t referring to the posts on here, more so on Facebook and Twitter which seems to be the most common platforms for posts to me made. What I will say is that the boys aren’t doing what they’re doing to gain approval/support from every fan out there, as that’s an impossible task. I think that what was meant by this was just that, and all that the boys in W7 are trying to achieve is to create a good atmosphere home & away to spur the team on, rather than to be a group of fans that are viewed on a higher level than other fans. But with that being said I don’t think it was ever their intention to purposefully argue with other fans or create a negative atmosphere between them, I feel this is down to tensions rising with all parties involved. I agree that this whole thing is a shambles and the sooner it’s resolved the better.