Stuart Dickson

Not according to the SMISA website David. I make it 13 unless there have been resignations that the members weren't informed of

Stewart Gilmour didn't like me Div. The business I presented he tried to copy months later, and when he couldn't figure it out he had his Commercial Manager bring me back in for another chat. Eventually many years later they launched their own text messaging service that was identical to what I had put forward 10 years previous. Unfortunately for Gilmour mobile Internet had long since taken over. I didn't throw my toys out of the pram over that at all. Instead I built my profitable business with customers from all over the world, eventually selling before 3g became commonplace as was my exit plan. The only reason I renounced my support for St Mirren was two years later - after the shambolic and ridiculous way the board sacked Tom Hendre.

NHS nurses deserve comment though don't they? There can't be another job where praise is so readily given to those who do so little to deserve it.

Oh dear. What a bizarre post and it comes from a man who has previously lambasted parents for trying to raise money to send their kids for life saving treatment abroad when the NHS has lacked the ability to save them; a man who thinks it's wrong for football fans to raise money to put on a Christmas dinner for the homeless, disabled and the lonely; and a man who thinks it's fakery and all about ego when a father coaches a football team so his son and others have a place to play football. This is also the same man who thinks 13 men sitting round a table for six months talking about what they'd like to do at SMISA are life's do'ers, those who have actually done stuff in their community are talkers, and he posts his critique whilst he does nothing but post on the Internet and claims that pointing out his lack of effort is "whataboutary" whatever the f**k that is. I've got nothing to learn from you Oaksoft. As for the rest of your post, yeah I believe I could present a business plan that would catapult St Mirren forward. It's not an original plan, it's worked elsewhere at clubs like Swansea and at Stoke City - where community involvement has boosted commercial success. Its worked at boys club level for the likes of Hutchison Vale, Cumbernauld Colts and EK Thistle. I believe St Mirren should be following success stories rather than gazing at their belly button moaning that the targeted £5m a year turnover can't happen cause the existing fan base is refusing to increase their current spend at the club by 250% per annum. If St Mirren don't want to listen it's no problem to me, but don't expect me to shut up when their failures keep smacking them in the face, over and over if they can't find a successful path of their own.

Sarah Michelle Geller posted her condolences. "Do you really want to hurt me? It seems 2016 does. Boy George you were a real talent and you'll be sadly missed." Maybe it's not mistaken identity and Buffy the Vampire Slayer knows something we don't know.

His Last Christmas right enough....

WTF - who wears the trousers?!!! I've never owned a dog myself but I do know that to have one you need to be assertive. Here's your chance to get some practice in. Pick a name and tell her no matter what she calls it, you'll only be calling it the name you chose. The wife will soon cave in.

Ah so true. I've offered my assistance several times and either been rejected or ignored. Tell me though Oaksoft - what have you done for the club? Are you a talker? One of the ten a penny? For that matter what have you done for anyone? For your own community even? Anything?

Pacific Quay Shull. I knew about the rehearsals at the town hall. I wasn't aware they'd ever filmed in there though. The tickets were free. I can't remember how we found out they were available, but we had to apply on the BBC website. There were four shows being filmed and I got a notification that we'd been drawn for the first one. That still didn't mean we were in though. They draw more tickets out than there are seats so you're warned that if you aren't one of the first - I think it was 700 - you might not get in the studio, but that you would instead watch from a viewing room. We arrived about 40 minutes before the doors opened and initially we were told we'd missed out and would be watching from the viewing room. Apparently people had been queuing from 4am that morning and this was now 12 noon. It was only after getting into the building we were finally told we were getting some of the last seats in the studio because some of the production staff weren't going to be using them. We went along with an attitude that if it was for us we'd get in and we'd booked a lunch at The Village incase we missed out. Just lucky I guess, it all worked out for us.

We were at the filming of the Mrs Browns show thats on tonight. It was done back in October IIRC. I'm looking forward to watching it just to see how they put it together and seeing which takes they used and which ones they dumped. The big scene just before the end took four takes and it was took around 15 minutes for each one setting up the stunt.

I find it odd that so many on here think everything is just "tickety-boo" right now behind the scenes. You've got a club with the third largest support in the Championship, large season ticket sales, a large wage budget which as Div rightly pointed out is well within the PCW recommendations against turnover, a Fans Council, a SMISA membership of in excess of 1300, and a SMISA board that is unconstitutionally large with 13 members rather than the "no more than 12" that the constitution calls for. Yet despite those resources - cash and physical in terms of the weight of numbers - the club sits well adrift at the bottom of the league with only 2 wins from 18 and the begging bowl has been passed around with the claim from the SMiSA board that £9k spent now to the end of the season will achieve 9th place - something that over £1.2m per annum hasn't managed to achieve so far. And everyone is too busy to grow the club in the local community.

Yeah you know that wouldn't be unusual. Many asset rich people aren't sitting around with cash to hand. Mortgaging some of his assets at the current low rate of interest to raise the money to buy the club isn't at all unfeasible or a sign that Gordon Scott is poor.

A strange question coming from you since you never stopped moaning about Hall Of Fame boards

I didn't realise this was a forum only for super dooper ultra happy clappers with reserved seats and a SMISA membership.

Sad news. I reckon I only got hooked on football as a kid cause they played it at half time at Hampden when my old Gramps took me there. Their acoustic albums have some great reworkings of their old tracks.

I don't think we should be forgiving on timescales at all Kombi, especially not when you consider the CEO was appointed to his post in January 2016, Gordon Scott was previously a club director, and SMiSA have been around for more than 10 years. The club has had the same Commercial Manager for 22 years apparently, and the Club Secretary - Lynn Watson - who I am told is related to the people running the club shop, that Dastardly says doesn't pay the club any money, and the stewarding company, has been around for quite a few years as well. Tony Fitzpatrick was CEO when he promised fans that had been displaced from their stand to accommodate Rangers supporters last season, a promise that appears to have been quietly dropped without being fulfilled. Gordon Scott was Chairman when he promised to give free tickets to any St Mirren fan that beat him in the Paisley 10k - they went through the rigmarole of taking names and addresses - and then failed to deliver. Lynn Watson was the person who took the phone call from my son who wanted to complain about the parking at the club, she was the one who told him to send his complaint to her in an e-mail so she could ignore him that way too, and who claimed that St Mirren fans didn't pay enough for car parking. She's also the person who will have cost the club 2 season ticket holders come the start of next season as a result. All these people should be doing far better in the role. The shoddy customer service, the poor service delivery, the lack of leadership, the lack of transparency at SMiSA, the lack of efficiency and the fact that the board chose to beg for money off the SMiSA membership rather than look at the operations within the club speaks volumes IMO. I don't think extending the honeymoon period longer is doing anyone any favours.

Can't argue with any of that Kombi. Certainly SMISA should be asking their members to put forward proposals for the ballot rather than dictating what can or can't go forward. That was out of order. I would have hoped by now that the CEO and the Chairman would have been on top of all the internal operations at the club and that they'd be listening to the customers comments regarding staff with the club, whether it's complaints about poor customer service, or comments and suggestions regarding commercial opportunities. Let's hope that the two ensure there is greater efficiency at the club before bringing out the begging bowl again

I've heard it from a couple of people from within the club now Vambo. I don't know names, just web aliases and I'm not going to disclose what ones they were either. The thing is though the accounts Im hearing are so similar they are either 100% true or the same person with multiple aliases is contacting me.

To be honest I was expecting progress. Instead what is gradually emerging is a picture of even bigger problems than anyone first imagined. You've got a large detachment from the local community - incidentally it isn't nearly as bad in Motherwell - you've got a board passing round the begging bowl, a team adrift at the bottom of the second tier, stories of empire building internally amongst staff, a club shop that doesn't earn the club money, the club falling foul of HMRC over minimum pay and the kit supplier and main sponsor having pulled their business. I'm also hearing stories of resignations and of internal discontentment. SMISA claim their too busy to deliver their promise of a club at the heart of the community despite having one more "director" on board than their constitution allows and some of the SMISA board don't seem to know what their business model is never mind the business model or plan for the football club. Indeed if it wasn't for the Fans Council and the extraordinary generosity of some of the fans you'd be hard pushed to find a single good news story over the last six months.

49 employees according to the accounts. Several in grant funded “community" posts.

I did not say that no one in Paisley would give a f**k. I was more general and said Paisley wouldn't give a f**k. I'd stand by that. I doubt many in Paisley would even notice if the club wasn't there such is the state of the clubs relationship with the town. On the community side I was told yesterday that two schools in Paisley, including one in Ferguslie Park, fell out with the club ages ago and want nothing to do with St Mirren. I've not got more detail than that but it seems in common with some of the stories I heard from juvenile football. Someone is going to have to do a massive rebuilding job on the community side if the club is ever going to see growth.

I wasn't paying much attention to this till now http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14981067.Sturgeon__39_s_soft_Brexit_plan_labelled__quot_complete_madness_quot__after_10_year_delay_emerges/?ref=ebln?c=bvjll8h7yisrmum78pvi

Hmmm, thats the second time I've heard this since I posed the question to Div. No rent, no licensing fee, nothing. I'm sure, if this is true, supporters who have been buying up official merchandise thinking that at least a portion of their money was going to the club will be mightily disappointed I reckon. Imagine a football club having signed away all income from official merchandising sales, then approaching the supporters association looking for a hand out to help pay wages. You'd think someone running the club would ensure all the clubs internal business was operating efficiently before going to the fans with a begging bowl - wouldn't you?

Hmm, I wonder how I could have gotten it so wrong..... Oh wait. I didn't

Is it acceptable? Would you be happy if a footballer did that to your wife or your daughter? I've said in the same post that it's a bit of a nothing story, but I wouldn't be wanting a player with that sort of attitude to women on my playing staff. I'm surprised that you would.