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  1. It's a big hit in any sense if the £1.7 million has all been spent in the past two covid years - regardless of tax etc. . It will have to be paid back at presumably £85.000 a year. The real problem is If it has all gone and the club is running on its current account income alone. This could well be a problem. Almost all season ticket money already in. One home game in September (Celtic with one stand). A fairly large squad - some spending a lot of time on the bench. Increasing costs for heating and electric etc. Pay at the gate numbers reduced by rising cost of living for supporters. Worrying times ahead. Not looking forward to seeing the figures at the AGM. Need to see the up to date managment accounts not just the usual financial accounts for the year ending months ago. How much cash is actually in the bank account to pay the bills should be the real question.
  2. That is a really inteligent comment - for a 10 year old. Please indicate why each of my statements is untrue. Fact: Michelle Evans has left. Fact: Redundancy letters at our successful academy now under the watchful eye of a kibble director have been out for a week. Fact: More well known faces set to depart. Fact: From my perch in the main stand I see and hear things of interest Fact: we are dependent on unpaid volunteers for stadium cleaning Fact: we needed their help to distribute season tickets Fact: after more than a year with strangely connected suppliers at the academy we have a hugely damaging overspend under this regime’s watch Fact: our general manager is employed by Kibble Fact: we are one unhappy workplace Is it not a wee bit ironic that a football club part owned by a children's charity no longer has a Child Wellbeing and Protection Officer ?
  3. The Club keeps any negativity deliberately quiet. If you were in bother so would you. You can hardly blame them as the last thing they want is to draw attention to the abject failure of our promised ‘new professionalism’ in what is becoming a very serious situation. Fact: Michelle Evans has left. Fact: Redundancy letters at our successful academy now under the watchful eye of a kibble director have been out for a week. Fact: More well known faces set to depart. Fact: From my perch in the main stand I see and hear things of interest Fact: we are dependent on unpaid volunteers for stadium cleaning Fact: we needed their help to distribute season tickets Fact: after more than a year with strangely connected suppliers at the academy we have a hugely damaging overspend under this regime’s watch Fact: our general manager is employed by Kibble Fact: we are one unhappy workplace Don’t blame the messenger! See you at Pittodrie.
  4. Eh, You want me to contact JIm Kibble to confirm what I already know to be true but you won't do the same. As for the current financial position, this will become clear at the AGM. Hope you are not too far away and can attend it.
  5. Eh yes, The fact that she does not work there any more is a good indication. Friday was her last day. Although the web site has not been updated yet. https://www.stmirren.com/club/contacting-st-mirren/club-directory Child Wellbeing and Protection Officer Michelle Evans [email protected] Given recent events in Scottish football it was rather an important job. More staff set to leave in the next few weeks.
  6. Yes but I have no doubt you would still not believe me so why not simply contact the club director in charge of the academy and ask him to confirm or deny the existance of the redundancy letters and the departure of the welfare officer. He does not seem to have a St. Mirren e-mail address so maybe try - Jim Gillespie Kibble Goudie Street Paisley PA3 2LG [email protected] Telephone 0141 889 0044 https://www.kibble.org/contact/ I'm sure he will be delighted to hear from you.
  7. The Club's welfare officer, well known to many of us, left today ☹️ - more to follow. Question for SMISA members and directors – why are we making people redundant if the Club is in such a sound financial state ? Asking for a friend.
  8. Sorry to have to say it, but I have just confirmed the redundancies and the debt from a second reliable source.
  9. Was out for a pint today and met a couple of supporters who told me that requests for voluntary redundancy letters are out to Academy staff, including the top coaches (the very people that identify upcoming talent like McGinn, Reid, Erhahon etc) with the possible exception of one. My sources said this is not a case of a particular job being made redundant so it has to be cost cutting as it is a broad brush approach. They both also informed me that we are well over a million in debt now and the chairman only confirmed this was the situation under pressure of questioning at the recent SMISA meeting. I really hope this is not the case. The Academy is a proven success story and the core of our club. We totally depend on the team there for future gems. It should be the last stop for cutbacks!
  10. Well done Jim Crawford and friends but where does this end? Volunteers now asking for a volunteer electrician for the club. How about a volunteer grounds man next. What happened to all the promises of professionalism from the Kibble folk ?
  11. I’ve just bought my season ticket. I thought long and hard about it. I grudgingly paid my £335. It’s the first time in 40plus years I have had very real second thoughts. I have not made up my mind about attending the Rangers or Celtic games. I will decide on the day. I might not be able to attend some of the now more common Friday night or Sunday lunchtime games so the season ticket probably does not make much personal financial sense any more. I coughed up to help the club I have supported over the years. My brand loyalty has been severely stretched. If a plumber, joiner or lawyer treated me in the way the directors of St. Mirren have recently I would take my business elsewhere. Much like my gas and electricity suppliers they have a virtual monopoly position. If I went to the cinema and had to listen to a number of folk singing sectarians songs while sitting in the freezing cold watching a boring movie I would just leave and never return. I certainly would not consider buying a season ticket for the so called family stand only to have my seat re-allocated three times a season. Looking round the stadium in the last weeks of the season there was a clear lack of young folk in most parts of the ground. The ever increasing cost of living will force many to rethink where to spend their leisure cash – if they have any. I gave up travelling to away games last season. Fan ownership seems to be pretty meaningless. So St. Mirren directors, like I suspect many season ticket holders, I have signed up for another full season but it might well be my last.
  12. Regarding the Chairman’s e-mail - I would think that with the OF choirs in both ends of the ground, and judging by the current season ticket holders I know, it is more likely that this season there may be 300 LESS season tickets sold. If you don’t want to go to the OF games then it makes less financial sense to buy a season ticket. That is a thin edge of a very dangerous financial wedge. Fans without season tickets will possibly start to pick and chose their other games, not just the OF ones . The cost of living is soaring, energy bills are about to triple for some folk. Heat, eat or go to the game? In marketing terms, anything leading to the loss of season ticket holders is a very bad idea. I have no intention of paying, in effect, a ransom payment of £30 to “help retain the Tony Fitzpatrick stand for the home supporters”. In any case I actually have no idea how that would work in practice. The help “a buddie scheme” does not seem to relate in any way to the OF stand issue. The “two match ticket bundles” are welcome but add a further complication to things. I wonder how the budget for this season can be “already set” since the Club has no idea of the extent of its income from Cup runs or its final league place or 101 other variables. I as understand it, one final place higher in the league may cover the loss of income from restricting the OF fans to one end of the ground. A “family club” does not move its families from their usual seats to rent them out on a temporary basis to a bunch of folk who still live their lives in the 1690’s. With the exception of W7 the age profile of the Club’s supporters is frankly – old and getting older. We need more families and young supporters. What we don’t need is having to explain to our younger children who King Billy was and what his relationship was with the then Pope.
  13. Given that the club will not tell us if the OF are to get both ends of the ground, I suspect many season ticket holders will be recluctant to rush to buy their ticket. I will be. I expect that as the pay early discount period ends there will be an appeal to sign up. and pay up. Maybe even an extension to the period.claiming how they need our cash and probably will need to let in the OF at both ends if we dont. Some will give in and pay up. The board will have a good laugh and tell us to take part in the consultation - NOT A BINDING VOTE. Regardless of the result the OF will be at both ends next season to serande us and our children with the hot hits of 1690 and 1916 and the like. Really hope I am wrong but fear I will be right - Buddies before bigots - Black and white before the orange and the green. P.S. I liked the suggestion I heard a few weeks ago - keep our families where they are - move the main stand folk to the family stand and put the OF in the main stand with our directors - bet they would not do that 😆
  14. No 'might' about it - dont think either of the Kibble directors are. I know for sure Mr. McMillan is not a supporter.
  15. I think this is a bit of the cart before the horse. Why not A) Tell us if the UDA/IRA chorus line are to get two stands then b) Tell us the price of season tickets C) Let us decide if we want to buy one.. It looks like we ask being asked to buy something at an unknown price without actually seeing what it looks like it. On balance I think I will give it all a miss for the first time in 19 years. I don’t want to listen to the old sectarian songs or even the new ones. So why should I pay for the experience ? This is 2022 not 1960 and certainly not 1690. Sorry St. Mirren I will pick and chose my games. I suspect they may be few and far between. Best of luck for the new season. Bye for now. It’s been fun. Maybe we can still be friends. Buddies before Bigots.
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