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Another bunnet !

Who is saying that Jack Ross got off to flyer ?. Nobody could have, even Fergie, with the team he inherited. Hence he had to bring in a whole new team. So what really is your point ? In fact I would say that Jack got off to a flyer in so much as in the first few months he had the ability to work out what was required and where ALL the weaknesses were. So the impossible to achieve by results was achieved by the work he did working out how to fix the mess Rae and Murray left. Jack Ross has done an immense job at St Mirren, even Fergie would have struggled to equal or better.

Classic stuff. Brilliant how you try to turn your criticism of the manager into a positive, and the last sentence we'll what can you say !

I agree. Other Scottish manager doing a brilliant job in England is Derek Adams at Plymouth. Time will tell

Yep, good point

So why speak to Ross then ?

Jack Ross won't be St Mirren manager next season. Would be very very suprised if thats the case. At least we'll get some good money when he takes Magennis !

Their last 2 managers have been quality, young, up and coming managers and its worked for them. If Ross goes there its a big potential stepping stone for him

Have thought for a long time that Jack Ross will bypass Scottish football in his next move. Not sure Barnsley is the right move for him though. Even if they went down to League One, its still a higher standard than Scottish Premiership bar Celtic. If the money is right and the investment in the club is right then he may go. Think he'll want to finish the job at St Mirren though.

I think Jack Ross had big doubts about Baird last season and only offered him a year as he would be cover for McKenzie and Davis. As its turned out he has been outstanding in the Championship this season and proved himself well worthy of a new contract. Be interesting to see how he performs at Premiership level if/when we get there.

Correct. He's a poor defender and nowhere near the quality of Eckersley. Its a total joke the way he's lorded cause he's a bit of a maverick. He's a poor defender full stop. Reasonable going forward but thats it. Eckersley every day of the week IMO. i'm not cremating him over his performance at Aberdeen. I just don't rate him over a long period of time. We need Eckersley back in the side for the Dunfermline game.

Been waiting for it. Maybe not quite the manager he was touted as.

No but Brendan Rodgers has and he's given him a 3 year deal. As I say he hasn't sent him to sit and watch SMFC for the rest of the season

Where did I say McGinn should be replaced by Hill ? What I said was I had a feeling that Mark Hill is a player and that if McGinn's form shades like it did a while back then Jack Ross will play him . Thats a bit different from saying McGinn should be replaced by Hill. Brendan Rodgers hasn't sent Mark Hill to SMFC to watch us. He's sent him to play here as he rates Jack Ross as a coach and trusts his player with him. Same as Derek McInnes at Aberdeen. Rodgers has also given Mark Hill a 3 year deal so he is no diddy ! I ddin't realise that McGinn was now GOD

Not talking about taking McGinn out the team in the Championship. In the Premiership yes as I don't think he's good enough. I think Magennis will replace McShane though in midfield over the next few weeks with Flynn on the right. I also think this young guy from Celtic Mark Hill is a player and if McGinn's form shades like it did a month back then Jack will play him.

In the Championship we don't but in the Premiership we will have a problem with both

No what I am saying is they are very average team and hugely overrated by our media. We had a chance today but abysmal defending killed us. In the first half without the defensive error we competed 100% with them. We arent far away but probably about 4 quality players short for Premiership

Can we stop bigging up Aberdeen, they are nothing special. The way the media talk about them you would think we were playing someone special today. They are average and most of their players are at best League One in England. If Rangers don't beat that lot to second place then something is far far wrong at Ibrox

Have to agree. McGinn and McShane will not do in the Premiership, IF we get there. Both have zero defensive quality. The laziness of both of them for Aberdeen second goal was there for all to see Magennis for McShane is coming soon and Hill will push McGin all the way. I have a sneaky feeling Hill will be a better player than McGinn.

Flynn on the right and Magennis replacing McShane. Hill putting pressure on McGinn's place and the absolute key one of Stelios on the bench and Eckersley back at left back. That should set us up nicely for the run-in

The one type of player I think we need is a John Sutton of 10 years ago with a bit more mobility. If we could pick someone like that up from the lower leagues in England then that would give us more options up front. Our forward line is small and we need height to give us more options and style of play. Ross Stewart I guess hasn't progressed as JR would have liked. I think if we can we should offload Sutton but if we can't get a replacement type then keep him. Any player we bring in also has to be bought with the view of being capable of playing at Premiership level, so not easy

i agree 100% on McShane but Magennis changed that completely when he moved to midfield. We got right back on top of Inverness and pushed them back for last 15. They had the odd break but overall we dominated last 15. McShane is the weaklink in midfield. Decent player but if we are to win the league he needs to be on the bench

Samson has been first class this season. Given all the junk that was talked about him when he signed I think he's proven all the doubters wrong. We have no goalkeeping issue at St Mirren

Magennis can do that role perfectly as shown in last 15 minutes yesterday. He's box to box has a great tackle in him and is a far better prospect that Jim Goodwin or Hugh Murray ever were.

What a difference from O'Brien. Twice the keeper on the field and off