WeeBud

If that was how it worked maybe he just wouldn't have signed the contract at all. Nobody had met the "development fee", or even offered to, in the summer and you think we could set a higher clause in a russian roulette scenario.

Not quite sure that's how employment law works and how would you determine "best of their ability"??

If reports are true we've knocked back more than that for him previously. Why, when he's performing better than he eve has on a consistent basis, would we accept it now??

Sorry Bluto, I was of course talking about the Big Tax Case..........still not seeing punishment right enough only the outstanding tax amount deemed due from the wee tax case.

What punishments did Rangers receive for Tax Evasion ??

Not to be too pedantic but there is a world of difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Strictly speaking only tax evasion is illegal whereas tax avoidance is generally taking advantage of "loopholes" to pay less tax. With reference to Greyskull in regards to EBT's, at the moment it is only being seen as avoidance and not evasion, no matter how unpallatable, thus why they won their case, that could change at appeal right enough. Not paying the PAYE/NIC due to lack of funds is what took Rangers out. I am not suggesting, at any point, that avoidance is OK and a route we should pursue!!

That's the spirit!!

Not like you to be so positive billyg!!

Absolutely no-one has contacted me about my shares be it the BoD or SMISA!!

I agree with all those points you mention but that wasn't the point I was making or discussing with "Magic Monkey"

Who knows where they came from or whether they are accurate , certainly not you or I. There are always people with thoughts and opinions and through"social media" all of a sudden become facts and/or leaks.......trying reading the St Mirren Supporters Facebook for evidence!!

That's the point Drew, all along they haven't communicated and possibly for very good reason, now people are criticising them for leaking things here and there. The BoD haven't communicated, someone else has yet the BoD are getting stick for it!!

Other than the appointment the biggest complaint against the BoD has been a lack of communication re the sale of the club as it's pretty plain to see that something is happening.........of course the lack of communication could be down to "confidentiality clauses". Next thing someone lets slip and communicates with the fans and lo and behold the BoD are criticised for communicating and underhand tactics!!

I think I can explain it, the fan ownership model wasn't secure enough and had too many "if" scenarios attached to it. No other bidders were deemed to have had the club's best interest at heart or their bids didn't match the BoD's valuation of the club.

All well and good if you want to take a "convicted" fraudster at face value, personally I'd take what he has to say with a large pinch of salt!!

That's the bus i was on, i bumped into the "hostage" unknowingly one evening in a pub by Victoria Coach Station in London around 1993 and discovered he was a Bud. We started talking and i mentioned the Mechelen trip and before i had the chance to tell him that bit of the story he said "do you remember the lad that needed a temporary passport, well that was me" .

Here's what the fraudster got up to:- A FRAUDSTER boasting Caribbean connections posed as a £1m buyer to help a Tyneside hotel boss keep his creditors at bay. Thavar Mohammed said he was purchasing the Hotel Michelangelo in Blaydon, where owner Paolo Pieri was fighting bankruptcy and debt. Sharp-suited Mohammed claimed he was representing a firm with the funds to seal the £1.4m deal. Contracts were drawn up after he produced documents showing another of his alleged companies – Private Capital Bank – had the money to pay the £600,000 deposit from its base in the Dominican Republic. But Mohammed was running an intricate fraud to help his friend Mr Pieri stay afloat, Newcastle Crown Court heard. And now 48-year-old Mohammed from Edgehill on Ponteland’s Darras Hall estate is behind bars for his part in the failed deception. “It is clear one way or another you were intent on assisting Mr Pieri in what was a thoroughly dishonest enterprise,” Judge John Evans told him. “You were not hoodwinking Mr Pieri. What you were doing was contributing to the hoodwinking of his creditors and that is simply unacceptable.” Mohammed was arrested in July 2009 after an investigation was launched by Northumbria Police’s Economic Crime unit. Officers from the unit carried out searches at homes and businesses, with support from the Total Policing Task Force. Judge Evans added: “It was a sophisticated fraud, the documents went way beyond what you normally encounter in cases like this, and the whole thing was a complete sham.” Mohammed, who has a string of similar previous convictions, was given a six-month prison sentence after admitting fraud and having an article for use in relation to fraud dating back to the phoney deal in 2008. Mr Pieri was finally made the subject of a bankruptcy order in August of that year once Mohammed’s con was exposed. But the court heard he is still running the hotel and trading there, a situation Judge Evans described as “alarming”. The fraud was uncovered when a solicitor became wary about the supposed purchase and, despite being under pressure to complete the deal, contacted police. By then Mohammed, claiming to represent bona fide buyers from a firm called Khana Peena Ltd, had agreed a £1.4m price for the impressive hotel and presented the authentic looking documents showing cash in a Caribbean bank account. “Analysis from the defendant’s computer showed correspondence between him and another man,” said James Adkin, prosecuting. “It is a fairly murky aspect of the case, that man has not been traced and it is thought he is not in the UK.” The documents that shady contact had sent Mohammed by email were blank with a decrypting programme to allow figures to be added, making them much more than a “simple cut and paste job”, Mr Adkin said. Richard Bloomfield, defending, said diabetic Mohammed had never stood to make a penny from the charade – the aim was that Mr Pieri would be able to borrow again, pay off his creditors, and stave off the bankruptcy petition, Mr Bloomfield added. “Clearly, the defendant was trying to help Mr Pieri,” he told the court. “The gain for him was simply that he helped a friend. “He didn’t receive anything and fortunately it didn’t cause loss to anybody else.” Det Sgt Andy Gimza, of the Economic Crime Unit, welcomed the sentence, and warned other organised criminals that even the most sophisticated frauds can be detected. “By communicating effectively with partners and other law enforcement agencies, such as Interpol, and by using suitable IT available, we can ensure that complex, overseas inquiries are not a barrier to successful prosecution,” he said. “This sentence illustrates that organised crime of this nature will not be tolerated and will be firmly dealt with by Northumbria Police in order to protect local business and professionals.” I guess, once again, we have to accept that the BoD, despite their mistakes with TC and the time taken over a replacement, do still have the interests of the club at heart and we as supporters have to be careful what we wish for. I wonder if there is room for negotiation with the bidders with Mr Mohammed removed from the bid??

Living in Southampton at the time I actually took in the Southampton v Arsenal reserve game that Baltacha had a trial in (I believe while he was still with us), he never actually looked out of place at that level. Strange that he went from being an U21 international to complete oblivion almost overnight!!

Don't forget the "polis wi big dugs" getting on the bus and travelling with us for the last bit of the journey either!! I did a couple of trips abroad with St Mirren and regularly travelled away with Scotland but that is one of the very best trips I was ever on!!

Did I say you believed it, at least you're not defensive or anything!! Neither was there a "wee dig" at anything just stating that I would sooner believe what I heard directly in an interview on the radio than some shite someone wants to spread on Facebook. Having re-read your post I do notice that you were prepared to speculate right enough " Very disappointing if true. How many other company bosses would go away for a 6 week holiday and leave the company floundering" but as you say it's the speculation thread.

If you want to believe someone on Facebook who was "apparently" quoting someone else fill your boots, personally I would trust what SG had to say on whether he is contactable and available for club business.

I think that in the "ideal" world that would be true but if there is a funding shortfall (maybe not enough people pledging/paying) and people are requested to put in more there is no question that somewhere down the line they'll want something for it.

Scanlon v Clydebank was a beauty, Beckett v Celtic was top drawer and I also enjoyed Higdon's v Falkirk.

In his interview on Radio Scotland, on the day TC was sacked, SG said that he would be just as involved as he would be if he was still in Paisley using Skype, Facetime, phones, texts and e-mail. The transfer window opens in around a week so hopefully they'll make a decision, one way or the other, over the next week to 10 days.

Maybe you could grow a pair of one and stop talking out the other.........I'm amazed you don't bore yourself!! I was certainly no fanboy of 10000hrs or anything else and was fairly neutral throughout the whole thing but recognised that people had strong views on both sides, others just wanted to throw as much mud as possible and then run for the hills. Thankfully most people have now accepted that the whole thing has passed, rubbed out the battle lines and moved on, you just want to keep on point-scoring and name-calling.......can you not just let things be and move on like everyone else.