Lord Pityme

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I would say see ya there (Wem-Ber-Lee) Dicko... But as you are not crowing from the rooftops one can only assume you are in 'Ticket Poverty'..? no doubt as a direct result of the SNP controlled scottish government, and those seventeen-year-old chargehands you abuse (not in a 70's DJ stylee) at Argos... Although you could be correct about the double? as in me going to two Wem-Ber-Lee cup finals... Ha'way the Lads..!

Lord Pityme's knees have gone all trem-ber-leey he's got his ticket for wem-ber-lee... will it be a quadrup-leee for eastland saint or cheesy chips on wem-ber-lee way???

Has Bahoken shot the craw again? if he's fit and fancies it you've got one hell of a forward line to choose from.... Thommo, Magennis,Bahoken,Campbell... backed up by... Wylde, McGowan, McGinn, Mclean, Teale Newton, D&G, McGregor, Cheesy, Naismith, Kelly Kello.... we should be giving the teams around us a right doing with these players to choose from.

and again... Posted Today, 14:25 1874robbo, on 14 February 2014 - 02:02 PM, said: Doctor jambo, you want her to hand over the club on 5 years regardless if she's been paid back her outlay or not? What planet are you on? It does not perterb you in the slightest that we are moving from one owner with total power to another? And if the time frame moves again to 10 years- you still happy? Or, under her chairpersonage debts start to build up and transfer does not happen? You are not concerned by this AT ALL? It would not seem unraesonable that as the person - the sole director- with the power to make / break us that she guarantees that if she totally messes it up she gives the whole shoot and match over after a fixed period and again... Posted Today, 12:41 the worry for me is that we may be doing a sevco, running hearts as a premier league club when in fact we don't need to. Dundee, Falkirk and Hamilton, the leading clubs in the championship have a turnover of just under £2m. So their player budgets won't be over £1.4m. FOH are now saying we will be paying £1.4m per year into the club. That will be in addition to the turnover of the club which surely will be about £4m. Why such a hefty amount unless there are huge expenses in the background we know nothing about? No problem with part of the direct debits going in to supplement the club during the time we are in championship but it does feel like that is an awful lot when in actual fact we (FOH) should be trying to get control of the club asap, this after all was pretty much their mission statement. And remember, the club itself on exiting CVA will have pretty much no debt. Just a little more clarity on why FOH are pumping the cash into Hearts first rather than trying to gain control of the club would be nice. and again.... Because for me the club has to work within it's means, people are saying we should never be in this position again but the first thing we are doing is pumping extra cash into the club and we have no information as to why. So what happens in year 3 when the loan starts to get repaid and that extra cash isn't there anymore? Surely the club and FOH finances should remain separate until such times as FOH has control? Think about this another way, £1.4m for 2 years = ownership of the club yet instead it is supplementing Hearts, but to do what? Get better players? In a league which we will have the second best player budget anyway? Build a new stand? All I am asking for is clarity on what that money is actually going to be used for. The club is leaning on the fans yet again for finance but to achieve what exactly? I am happy for the money to go to Hearts FC but all I ask is what it's being used for. At the moment it is total speculation. I was hopeful that 3 years from now the elected chair of FOH would be addressing a full Wheatfield stand of FOH members what was going on with their club, what the issues were and what the plans were for the future and everyone voting on proposals. Instead we are now 5 years away from this with pretty much no say in the club up until that point. at least some of them want to drill down... after all aren't they supposed to be the designate owners of this business?

took your advice to look at KickBack... here it is in maroon! Posted Today, 13:23 davemclaren, on 14 February 2014 - 01:07 PM, said: That's not true. Alex Mackie said the funds would also provide additional ongoing income. I was at a Q&A session at the Gorgie Suite where Ian Murray said that once ownership had been delivered then they would look at financing other projects, e.g. the Academy, but not to use the funds for day to day running of the club. and again... Geoff Kilpatrick, on 14 February 2014 - 01:19 PM, said: Ok, so what happens if we decide not to provide the working capital? Some have said this is not what they signed up for, and I can understand why. and again.... Posted Today, 13:31 Cut The Crap, on 14 February 2014 - 01:18 PM, said: I think it's explained in a post further back. When we come out of admin we will have neither cash in the bank nor credit line. We need this working capital to smooth over any bumps until we can start operating like a normal business again. If it's effectively a contingency budget, I have no issue with that. But it shouldn't have to be used unless in an emergency and if it isn't used then the transfer should be possible after year 2. Given we're in the situation we're in now because it's had to be a frying pan to fire transition for the last few transfers of ownership, I think in advance is the best time to raise these areas. and again... Posted Today, 13:47 Footballfirst, on 14 February 2014 - 01:23 PM, said: I was at a Q&A session at the Gorgie Suite where Ian Murray said that once ownership had been delivered then they would look at financing other projects, e.g. the Academy, but not to use the funds for day to day running of the club. That was definitely said that night as I was also there. It was stated on more than one occassion. I am not too concerned at the moment as I am sure there will be an explanation to follow. But the goalposts have been moved here. No denying it. #483 1874robbo They don't all seem happy jambos to me..!

A few hundred posts made by as on here 10-20 blokes isn't a representative sample.... The jambos I am talking about are pissed off now they realise all the while they were being encouraged by FOH (pre admin) to buy up additional ST's, shake the can, hold the tombola etc etc.... regardless what might happen. Now know they were funding the club till Budge could buy it for £2.5m....! Think they would easily have made that £700k up to £2.5m if they hadn't been throwing good money after bad to fit Budge's business model for over a year. The alternative, that many jambos favoured was to liquidate, buy the name and start afresh away from tynecastle and all its associated liabilities. with their support, their £700k and ongoing DD's they could have done what Coventry did and simply up sticks (although no need to leave the county) ground share and they would own the club 100%, the SPFL would bring them back in league two and they would progress up the leagues whilst building the bank balance and sorting out a new ground. Now with the figures involved, with the business plan to run a championship team on a premiership budget with all the resulting loss of income, with the time scales involevd till the fans actually own the club, and whatever is round the corner they look set to emulate Sevco, when they could have been in charge of their own destiny edit: i think the creditors in Lithuania may have a change of 'hearts' when they see how much more cash is being talked about and they stand to get buttons once the Administrators here and there have had their slice of the £2.5m

Sorry Mr B your wrong on a few counts... I didn't say anyone was raging about Craig levein... (although they should be) Taking a 'satisfaction' sample from a fans website is as you should know wholly unrepresentative of the majority yes they do have a lump sum available, and the very presence of live DD's would enable them to borrow what is required to bridge the gap of buying the club for £2.5m... then running it within it's means the main point.... the fans DD (£3.8m over 2 years) in FoH will be used to as additional funds to run the club. that is the fans cash will be lobbed in with all other revenue (St's/Tix/Pies/tops etc...) to run a championship club on a premiership budget.... Budge is putting in £1m straight away and wants it all paid back... i.e. £6million The point being the fans money is being used to run a club beyond it's means, that being their DD's will be used on top of whatever the club generates, and it won't buy them a single share, whilst Budge sits on 100%.... Now that might seem like a good deal to you? But it doesn't to alot of people who have effectively kept this club afloat till someone else could buy it. Then their cash is being used to run it, till they can save enough to buy Budge out.... Read the small detail available, she is not tied to handing it back to them by a given date unless she wants to. If they don't get promotion next season how many will keep funding her club and buying St's etc..? There's alot of guarantees in place for Budge... she owns 100% till she gets the money back, or not. the fans have to stump up £3.8m just to be allowed to buy her out costing them £6million to do a deal for something that is being sold for £2.5m

The news yesterday that Ann Budge is putting up £2.5m to buy Bidco (Formerly known as Hertz) was greeted with joy by many Jambos... Until they realised they would be putting in £3.8m to supplement all the other revenue just to run the club, and Ann will automatically have 100% ownership, and run the club, pay in a £1m to get them oot the immediate shit, then the fans will have to stump up £6m effectively to buy her back out in five years time.... talk about a clusterf**k of fan ownership models.... to top that she's bringing in Craig Levein to replace Locke... Many jambos are raging that this is not what they thought their DD were destined for (i.e. living beyond their means again), they thought their DD's were buying shares (fan ownership) and all their purchases of additional ST, club shop, hospitality, matchday tix etc would go to towards running the club... Seems they've gone for the Sevco business plan which is such a rip-roaring success.... This is what happens when you don't drill down for the detail when A.N.Other rides into town and say we can have fan ownership, you give me all your money and I promise I'll have grants and soft loans to add coming oot my ears... It'll be an intersting watch from now on another raging clusterf**k by supporters direct (maybe they should have a more appropriate name like "Debit's Direct") I always thought the phrase "Fan Ownership" was what it said on the tin.... silly me.

Ffs I hope no!

there's probably mair than two so hard to say..... On reflection though they are probably all hopeless sad trolls....

oaksoft, on 02 May 2013 - 16:26, said: We swears we is different peoples master... we don't knows why we quote each others year old posts so readily..?

I'd say the BoD will be rubbing their hands at a couple of sell out home games to avoid the play-off... then another during the play-off... Danny might get a bonus oot of this yet!

DLT quoted on the steps of the court, arm in arm with Roache... "we both had a right good feeling about this... going years back" arm in arm the wander off into their twilight laughing their wrinkly auld arses aff... till the next batch of abused come forward..!

No Logic...? The simple fact is the no campaign consists of english political parties sitting in westminister desperately trying to frighten Scots into voting to suit their agenda. The yes campaign consists of the SNP and whoever believes in it north of the border.... Farage is a creation of far right tories that actually want independence themselves... but only of a certain type, and only inclusive to people of certain ethnic backgrounds.

Correction..... It's all the english/westminister parties...... who stand to lose most from independence... Tories - will forever be known as the party that lost the union Lib Dems - will lose the few MP's they actually have so become a redundant force (not enough Mp's to justify a coalition) Labour - will possibly never be elected again in our lifetime losing 50 mp's.... this bluster is not about economics, parties never stand side by side on that... It's about so much more to them.... power! and the prospect of losing it big time..!

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Go on push the ignore button! I have with you're trolling alter-ego Away-with-the-fairies-saint... and now likewise with you Looks like you'll just have to play with yourself/selves again...

Fify. faraway

When he can keep up with them and it doesn't look like blatantly flooring nippy wee f**kers... yes

I'm sure he'll play, but probably subbed as his muscles, stamina, touch etc will need to be built up again having not actually played for a while... the body needs periods of exercise to develop/tone the muscles, but also needs periods of recuperation (rest days) to build stamina. You won't achieve that in a week, but perhaps he'll kick a few less people theis weekend?

I had to laugh at George Osborne trying to sound fierce over currency union... There was me thinking that the UK as it stands, and as it may become was a democracy, and that Osborne goes to great lengths to emphasise the independence of the bank of england... yet when the Tories are f**ked in the polls he seems to be saying he'll prevent monetary union.... Oh George... bless... you can't keep your snout out of the nose candy never mind dictate to scotland what it can or can't have.

I see what Mather was trying to say here... he's pissed off at all the Tories that dominate Rugby portraying scotland like a tin of shortbread in the hope it will scupper the yes vote.... he f**ked up by having a go at football fans though

THIS What makes I laugh is the footage from flood victims in the Thames valley. venting their spleen about who/what is to blame for this catastrophe... then wandering off to untether the £200k floating gin palace tied up at the bottom of their garden to head down to their local Keystore for some more G&T supplies... Some of the poor buggers who built multi million pound homes on the banks of one of the most flood-liable rivers in the country have even had to take the kids out of school a week before the half term and hole up on an extended skiing trip in the french alps to avoid Bbc news reporters..! Ffs Dave get a grip!

A short term solution has been found to flooding in the Thames valley..... Eric's gonna dive bomb into the Thames..! The French, Belgian and Dutch coastlines are at the highest state of alert.