mcdowell76

Total respect to Chris Froome. Incredible achievement. Already looking forward to the Vuelta!

We've only brought in 3 from the lower divisions this summer I thought?

And?

Having watched that debacle today, I think we may well struggle. The loss of Mallan is a major blow. Sticking out such an attacking side away to a top 6 premiership side was stupid. Jack Ross got his tactics wrong today. Hopefully it turns out to be a blessing in disguise and Ross sorts things out.

What about the second half?

Accept all of that. But, seeing as they did put them into the West Stand, why not segregate them?

Why didn't they just segregate the Livi fans in the family stand? I know they would have had to share toilet and catering facilities, etc, but couldn't they have at least just stuck them over in a section of seats at one of the ends of the stand with a dedicated turnstyle? That way they wouldn't have been mixed during the game and there wouldn't really have been a problem?

Don't disagree. The top marathon runners are top pros as well mind. And the top guys are only really capable of running 1 or 2 a year. I think that a marathon at all out marathon pace takes far more out of you than cycling a stage of the Tour. As I said though, if there was an equivalent Tour type race in running though, that pace would need to come down substantially. Tour stages aren't all out efforts all the way through, albeit the attacks are probably at a greater effort than marathon pace effort. That's why I don't really think you can equate tour stages to marathons. Apples and oranges.

I have run a couple of marathons but although I do a lot of cycling, never a cycling race. I think its an interesting debate. I don't believe that you would be able to run a marathon at all out race pace every day for 3 weeks. I reckon the pace would need to drop substantially. You also don't really get the drafting effect in running (albeit they did in the Nike sub 2 hour effort but using runners and a car with a big fecking clock!). Agree about footballers. Lack of fitness and effort is probably why so many kids in Scotland with talent never make it.

wiggins is Belgian born to an Australian dad mind you....

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Certainly an argument to made for Froome to get a knighthood. I'm sure it'll come. Just as long as no-one finds the hidden motor.... I would disagree though that its like doing a marathon every day for three weeks. Another one for a good debate though!

Bradley Wiggins was the first Brit to win the T de F. That's why he got a knighthood. Roger Bannister got a knighthood for being the first person to run a mile in under 4 mins. Chris O'Hare has ran the mile 7 seconds faster than Bannister. Should he also get a knighthood? Indeed, 2 Scots, O'Hare and Jake Wightman, both ran the mile in under 4 mins last year. Should they both get knightoods? Charlie Grice as well? Andy Baddeley? Should every Brit who has climbed Mount Everest since Edmund Hilary get a knighthood?

It doesn't matter how many competitive matches they play... Stevie Mallan is still away! And all of the above also applies to Livi and all other teams.

You think that, with a wee bit of grace, some of the players playing last night might turn into Stevie Mallan?