salmonbuddie

Most of the jobs are in the naval base rather than Trident itself, Faslane will be maintained as a naval base, only the subs (and their payload) will disappear. Coulport will close, though, so, yes, some jobs will be lost, but the amopunt of money "saved" will outweigh any such losses many, many times over.

I even gave you the one I don't favour first so no-one could say I'm giving preferential treatment to the Yes campaign. Unless it's a double bluff, of course....

One of the key points is that independence means we won't waste money on Trident & HS2, that's enough of a saving in itself to fund just about anything we want!

Concise fact for me is the opportunity to have a government in power which represents how the country (Scotland) has voted. I've never had one yet and I voted in my first General Election in 1979. These are the webites of the two organisations, have a browse and see what you think: http://www.bettertogether.net/ http://www.yesscotland.net/

And yet, despite the "huge interest repayments" to the UK, and the UK benefiting from those repayments, they're both above the UK in the table. Not a "rate of recovery" table, a "how well off are you" table. Perhaps they were absolute rock bottom at one point, but they're not now, they're better off than we are. Care to explain?

The only named individual in there is Robertson, does he have a party political agenda when it comes to independence? This guy disagrees and doesn't:http://www.snp.org/media-centre/news/2013/oct/independent-scotland-will-be-natural-nato-member

No, that'll be you struggling to read- where did I say it was mentioned? I was pointing out up to date stuff about "Scottish Secretary Michael Moore." Just so we're clear, you do know he's no longer the Scottish Secretary? You did get it wrong? Give us proof of the article's existence, let us see for ourselves when he allegedly said those things and see if it's something else he's since changed his views on. Like Europe, for example. You also conveniently ignore the turnaround in economic fortunes of the two countries after repeatedly banging on about how Scotland would end up just like them. Nothing to add? You ignore the Faslane stuff I also busted and ts has busted you on the monarchy/BoE/ties stuff quoted. Time for bed, methinks.

Saw the 70's vote mentioned earlier in this thread in the same context, snlt, almost as if people think it was an independence vote

A pity the UK PM and SoS for Scotland aren't backing it then, it really might be successful if they were: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-to-annex-trident-base-in-independent-scotland-not-credible-says-no-10-8701485.h Michael Moore the Scottish Secretary, you say? Someone tell STV. And the Government. http://news.stv.tv/scotland/242231-liberal-democrat-mp-michael-moore-sacked-as-scottish-secretary/ And point us to this article if you don't mind or is it another of these ones that only exists in your head? The current story is that he was pushed because he refused to promote the No campaign's lies any more e.g. on the EU: Moore said that he saw “no reason to believe that any country around Europe would have an in-principal objection to any new Member State coming forward”. This interview, given by Michael Moore to the Catalan News Agency, took place just weeks after he was sacked by David Cameron and Nick Clegg. The timing of these comments suggest he has had a conflicting view to his UK colleagues for some time on how to argue the case for a No vote. He was clearly unwilling to push the No Campaign’s scare stories to the point where his personal credibility would be irrevocably damaged. His successor Alistair Carmichael MP will face the same dilemma. From: http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/no-campaign-eu-membership-myth-falls-apart/ They may have collapsed but it appears they're recovering better than the UK's http://www.prosperity.com/#!/ Interesting how many European nations of a comparable population to Scotland are above the UK in that table No, StuD, the best thing that could happen is that the No campaign puts you in charge.

A full 26 hours and that's the best you can do? You need to visit snappycomebacks.com and up your game a bit. (Edited for timings)

Aye, it's an age thing....

Add your own punchline. Again.....

Unfortunately it is very accurate and pinpoints exactly how BT are playing it.

I thought his Germaine Greer pic in the Would You thread was ironic but this trumps it big time. Cue Maxi......

For anyone as confused as me as to what they're on about: http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/nosh Never heard it used like that, everyday's a schoolday right enough.

Project Fear is BT's own name for what they're doing, ZA, not the Yes campaign's.

I didn't say it was decided, just pointing out a fact.And my apologies for making full use of the English language, I'll be sure to dumb things down for you next time.

You have made some really stupid statements in your time on here, StuD, but comparing the Yes campaign to the Nazis really trumps all of them.Go and have a look at the positive, yes positive, campaign being run by YesScotland then come back, admit your mistake and apologise to all the decent, hardworking and genuine people you've besmirched.

The poll on this thread is 2:1 in favour. And this despite Project Fear and it's many proselytizers on here.

I'm quite pally with a 5 year old that one of the members is shit scared of, could have a word and start with him if you like?

I blame Thatcher. For everything.

8,700 around 2010, not sure what the current figure is.

Braehead employs "around" 3500, apparently.

I did, someone closed it....

Risible/laughable, still not decided.......