RickMcD

If someone hasn't hijacked Sid's computer, is this not a u-turn of monumental proportions?

Sid you've got a nerve going on about meandering and then coming out with all that crud about the new stadium. The big difference is that no new stadium, no more St.Mirren. That doesn't apply to the CIC. There are other ways for St.Mirren to go on to more success but I genuinely don't know if the CIC is the best way forward or whether it is still proceeding at all. There's mud slinging going on and I get the feeling the pro CIC brigade have adopted the stance that if your not for us, then you're against us. Paranoia,or what?
I've certainly criticised the total lack of communication over the last few months. It now appears that there is an inner sanctum which has a lot more info than is generally available. Maybe there is something so sensitive that the club or CIC or both don't want it in the public domain but the total lack of any statement has to be totally unacceptable.
'sneaky-pandas like the donkey daft enough to emigrate to NorthrnIREland?' Not sure about sneaky. Panda I can live with, a black and white Saints fan.But donkey? That's as in 'hung like a donkey'. Shucks,Sid ,what can I say? I never like to talk about it.Maybe you know some of the many Paisley women I used to be 'friendly' with.

Sid you've got a nerve going on about meandering and then coming out with all that crud about the new stadium. The big difference is that no new stadium, no more St.Mirren. That doesn't apply to the CIC. There are other ways for St.Mirren to go on to more success but I genuinely don't know if the CIC is the best way forward or whether it is still proceeding at all. There's mud slinging going on and I get the feeling the pro CIC brigade have adopted the stance that if your not for us, then you're against us. Paranoia,or what?
I've certainly criticised the total lack of communication over the last few months. It now appears that there is an inner sanctum which has a lot more info than is generally available. Maybe there is something so sensitive that the club or CIC or both don't want it in the public domain but the total lack of any statement has to be totally unacceptable.
'sneaky-pandas like the donkey daft enough to emigrate to NorthrnIREland?' Not sure about sneaky. Panda I can live with, a black and white Saints fan.But donkey? That's as in 'hung like a donkey'. Shucks,Sid ,what can I say? I never like to talk about it.Maybe you know some of the many Paisley women I used to be 'friendly' with.

Sid you've got a nerve going on about meandering and then coming out with all that crud about the new stadium. The big difference is that no new stadium, no more St.Mirren. That doesn't apply to the CIC. There are other ways for St.Mirren to go on to more success but I genuinely don't know if the CIC is the best way forward or whether it is still proceeding at all. There's mud slinging going on and I get the feeling the pro CIC brigade have adopted the stance that if your not for us, then you're against us. Paranoia,or what?
I've certainly criticised the total lack of communication over the last few months. It now appears that there is an inner sanctum which has a lot more info than is generally available. Maybe there is something so sensitive that the club or CIC or both don't want it in the public domain but the total lack of any statement has to be totally unacceptable.
'sneaky-pandas like the donkey daft enough to emigrate to NorthrnIREland?' Not sure about sneaky. Panda I can live with, a black and white Saints fan.But donkey? That's as in 'hung like a donkey'. Shucks,Sid ,what can I say? I never like to talk about it.Maybe you know some of the many Paisley women I used to be 'friendly' with.

I've said before I don't have a strong view one way or another. I was late into any discussion and despite having read everything I can I'm still not completely clear how the whole damn thing is supposed to operate. Some posters seem two-faced about the whole process. (I was going to say ambivalent but I was feart I'd get accused of using big words like what Bluto does).
blf started this thread on the 11th, of October. The CIC must be aware that the discussion is getting nearly to crescendo level. And yet, stony silence. If nothing else it's a PR disaster. I'm amazed there haven't been a stack of folk asking for their direct debits back.
Some of the posters have said they feel that only pro CIC posters are welcome and although that's clearly not true I do sense an almost schoolmasterish attitude suggesting ' we know better than you so wrap up!' Some of the posters hint at a level of insider knowledge and if that's true it's a disgrace. There are I think 800 plus St.Mirren fans out there who have pledged to help the club and they're not even getting the mushroom treatment. They're being kept in the dark all right but they're not even getting fed shite. They're being starved of information.
Sid, you've said the fans should pick up the phone and speak to the club. They shouldn't have to. You also said today. 'Not a single fact produced to date.' That's very true of the CIC.
It's generally agreed that if the CIC is dead it's not a death knell for St.Mirren. For goodness sake let's hear something and stop suggesting it all has to be a state secret.

I've said before I don't have a strong view one way or another. I was late into any discussion and despite having read everything I can I'm still not completely clear how the whole damn thing is supposed to operate. Some posters seem two-faced about the whole process. (I was going to say ambivalent but I was feart I'd get accused of using big words like what Bluto does).
blf started this thread on the 11th, of October. The CIC must be aware that the discussion is getting nearly to crescendo level. And yet, stony silence. If nothing else it's a PR disaster. I'm amazed there haven't been a stack of folk asking for their direct debits back.
Some of the posters have said they feel that only pro CIC posters are welcome and although that's clearly not true I do sense an almost schoolmasterish attitude suggesting ' we know better than you so wrap up!' Some of the posters hint at a level of insider knowledge and if that's true it's a disgrace. There are I think 800 plus St.Mirren fans out there who have pledged to help the club and they're not even getting the mushroom treatment. They're being kept in the dark all right but they're not even getting fed shite. They're being starved of information.
Sid, you've said the fans should pick up the phone and speak to the club. They shouldn't have to. You also said today. 'Not a single fact produced to date.' That's very true of the CIC.
It's generally agreed that if the CIC is dead it's not a death knell for St.Mirren. For goodness sake let's hear something and stop suggesting it all has to be a state secret.

I've said before I don't have a strong view one way or another. I was late into any discussion and despite having read everything I can I'm still not completely clear how the whole damn thing is supposed to operate. Some posters seem two-faced about the whole process. (I was going to say ambivalent but I was feart I'd get accused of using big words like what Bluto does).
blf started this thread on the 11th, of October. The CIC must be aware that the discussion is getting nearly to crescendo level. And yet, stony silence. If nothing else it's a PR disaster. I'm amazed there haven't been a stack of folk asking for their direct debits back.
Some of the posters have said they feel that only pro CIC posters are welcome and although that's clearly not true I do sense an almost schoolmasterish attitude suggesting ' we know better than you so wrap up!' Some of the posters hint at a level of insider knowledge and if that's true it's a disgrace. There are I think 800 plus St.Mirren fans out there who have pledged to help the club and they're not even getting the mushroom treatment. They're being kept in the dark all right but they're not even getting fed shite. They're being starved of information.
Sid, you've said the fans should pick up the phone and speak to the club. They shouldn't have to. You also said today. 'Not a single fact produced to date.' That's very true of the CIC.
It's generally agreed that if the CIC is dead it's not a death knell for St.Mirren. For goodness sake let's hear something and stop suggesting it all has to be a state secret.

I agree completely with bud77 and ktf. We don't seem to have a multi millionaire willing to back us but even if we did he could make a mess of it anyway. But just what is going on with the CIC? Some of you guys and gals out there seem to have private sources but hee-haw is coming forth. Is it subject to a D-notice or covered by the Official Secrets Act? What can possibly be so hush-hush that fans can be told nothing?
Tony Blair used to say 'Trust me. I'm Tony'. And that worked out OK. Didn't it?

Shull, you've again got me laughing over my Ulster fry. Where are all the Old Firm religious followers supposed to go when they f*ck off?
I hope you believe I'm a genuine Buddy now. From Glenburn,not Lochwinnoch. And I was truly humbled to be welcomed to the club by a stalwart like you.

I've been a member for around 18 months and have been visiting the site for a lot longer. I have never posted before and partly that's because I'm not sure I want to be associated with the levels of personal abuse, threats of violence and many comments which contain at least an element of religious bigotry. I think,Div, your post is timely and I hope some of the members take note and take a right good look at themselves. I see that a lot of members have never posted and while I am sure there are many reasons why they don't, I would be surprised if quite a few don't share the same reservations I have.
One thing that gets me down is the gratuitous bad language. Now I know that bad language and football go hand in hand and I confess here and now that mine is pretty foul at times. But I don't think four letter words need to be added to written posts. I'm not referring to 'bloody hell' or 'useless bugger' but I think we can do without the two four letter words which can cause most offence. I enjoy the craic (that might give some a clue to where I live, and also explains why I can't get to many matches) and I regularly end up in stitches as many of the posts. But would it detract from anyone's enjoyment to cut back the bad language just a bit?
And what is all the C*l*ic and R*n*e*s nonsense? Does anyone think that's funny? And is it absolutely compulsory to hate every team apart from our beloved St.Mirren? If so, count me out. There are some clubs I dislike but there are many I have always liked and admired. And as I have mentioned r*ngers, it certainly looks like they are in real financial diffs. But anyone who thinks Scottish Football wouldn't be impoverished without either of the Old Firm needs to get a reality check.
I have always maintained that the paying football fan once he gets in the ground can shout what he pleases but I have also always felt that a fairly high percentage of St.Mirren fans prefer to shout abuse from the first minute. It has always been so. Giving away my age a bit, I remember the abuse Jim Rodger got when he came to Love Street in the 50's. They called him Nancy. But they didn't when he became a fast,strong right winger who could cross the ball when running full pelt. Now there's an art which has all but been lost in modern day football. How many of you out there were at a mid-week match on a miserable cold night when he scored four goals?
Some of us need to get off Danny's back. He is still surely on a learning curve. I have some criticisms of my own. For the matches at Inverness and against Hibs last Saturday, the team should have been so pumped up that that they should never have been beaten. I'm not convinced he is a motivator. Last night's result is inexcusable, both in the let-down to the fans and the resulting financial loss. But give Danny a lot more time. I think he deserves at least that.
We're all St.Mirren fans. We have all had to live with the agony that goes with the territory. Keep the faith. I genuinely believe that I got more pleasure from our two Scottish Cup wins that I saw and our promotion winning games, than many Old Firm fans got from years of more or less continuous success.
And please keep the posts coming. I'm a bit of an exile and I'm not the only one. The Virtual West Bank gives me so much pleasure.

I've been a member for around 18 months and have been visiting the site for a lot longer. I have never posted before and partly that's because I'm not sure I want to be associated with the levels of personal abuse, threats of violence and many comments which contain at least an element of religious bigotry. I think,Div, your post is timely and I hope some of the members take note and take a right good look at themselves. I see that a lot of members have never posted and while I am sure there are many reasons why they don't, I would be surprised if quite a few don't share the same reservations I have.
One thing that gets me down is the gratuitous bad language. Now I know that bad language and football go hand in hand and I confess here and now that mine is pretty foul at times. But I don't think four letter words need to be added to written posts. I'm not referring to 'bloody hell' or 'useless bugger' but I think we can do without the two four letter words which can cause most offence. I enjoy the craic (that might give some a clue to where I live, and also explains why I can't get to many matches) and I regularly end up in stitches as many of the posts. But would it detract from anyone's enjoyment to cut back the bad language just a bit?
And what is all the C*l*ic and R*n*e*s nonsense? Does anyone think that's funny? And is it absolutely compulsory to hate every team apart from our beloved St.Mirren? If so, count me out. There are some clubs I dislike but there are many I have always liked and admired. And as I have mentioned r*ngers, it certainly looks like they are in real financial diffs. But anyone who thinks Scottish Football wouldn't be impoverished without either of the Old Firm needs to get a reality check.
I have always maintained that the paying football fan once he gets in the ground can shout what he pleases but I have also always felt that a fairly high percentage of St.Mirren fans prefer to shout abuse from the first minute. It has always been so. Giving away my age a bit, I remember the abuse Jim Rodger got when he came to Love Street in the 50's. They called him Nancy. But they didn't when he became a fast,strong right winger who could cross the ball when running full pelt. Now there's an art which has all but been lost in modern day football. How many of you out there were at a mid-week match on a miserable cold night when he scored four goals?
Some of us need to get off Danny's back. He is still surely on a learning curve. I have some criticisms of my own. For the matches at Inverness and against Hibs last Saturday, the team should have been so pumped up that that they should never have been beaten. I'm not convinced he is a motivator. Last night's result is inexcusable, both in the let-down to the fans and the resulting financial loss. But give Danny a lot more time. I think he deserves at least that.
We're all St.Mirren fans. We have all had to live with the agony that goes with the territory. Keep the faith. I genuinely believe that I got more pleasure from our two Scottish Cup wins that I saw and our promotion winning games, than many Old Firm fans got from years of more or less continuous success.
And please keep the posts coming. I'm a bit of an exile and I'm not the only one. The Virtual West Bank gives me so much pleasure.

I've been a member for around 18 months and have been visiting the site for a lot longer. I have never posted before and partly that's because I'm not sure I want to be associated with the levels of personal abuse, threats of violence and many comments which contain at least an element of religious bigotry. I think,Div, your post is timely and I hope some of the members take note and take a right good look at themselves. I see that a lot of members have never posted and while I am sure there are many reasons why they don't, I would be surprised if quite a few don't share the same reservations I have.
One thing that gets me down is the gratuitous bad language. Now I know that bad language and football go hand in hand and I confess here and now that mine is pretty foul at times. But I don't think four letter words need to be added to written posts. I'm not referring to 'bloody hell' or 'useless bugger' but I think we can do without the two four letter words which can cause most offence. I enjoy the craic (that might give some a clue to where I live, and also explains why I can't get to many matches) and I regularly end up in stitches as many of the posts. But would it detract from anyone's enjoyment to cut back the bad language just a bit?
And what is all the C*l*ic and R*n*e*s nonsense? Does anyone think that's funny? And is it absolutely compulsory to hate every team apart from our beloved St.Mirren? If so, count me out. There are some clubs I dislike but there are many I have always liked and admired. And as I have mentioned r*ngers, it certainly looks like they are in real financial diffs. But anyone who thinks Scottish Football wouldn't be impoverished without either of the Old Firm needs to get a reality check.
I have always maintained that the paying football fan once he gets in the ground can shout what he pleases but I have also always felt that a fairly high percentage of St.Mirren fans prefer to shout abuse from the first minute. It has always been so. Giving away my age a bit, I remember the abuse Jim Rodger got when he came to Love Street in the 50's. They called him Nancy. But they didn't when he became a fast,strong right winger who could cross the ball when running full pelt. Now there's an art which has all but been lost in modern day football. How many of you out there were at a mid-week match on a miserable cold night when he scored four goals?
Some of us need to get off Danny's back. He is still surely on a learning curve. I have some criticisms of my own. For the matches at Inverness and against Hibs last Saturday, the team should have been so pumped up that that they should never have been beaten. I'm not convinced he is a motivator. Last night's result is inexcusable, both in the let-down to the fans and the resulting financial loss. But give Danny a lot more time. I think he deserves at least that.
We're all St.Mirren fans. We have all had to live with the agony that goes with the territory. Keep the faith. I genuinely believe that I got more pleasure from our two Scottish Cup wins that I saw and our promotion winning games, than many Old Firm fans got from years of more or less continuous success.
And please keep the posts coming. I'm a bit of an exile and I'm not the only one. The Virtual West Bank gives me so much pleasure.