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I signed up today, sort of reluctantly as Im not convinced, but Im prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Ebbsfleet X 4
DEBT
Sausage Rolls
f**k the ...
"God Botherer"
SENS event
Sugar Daddy
Horses
Agenda
Snake Oil Salesman
No other Option
next week/next ten days
48%
52%
MOU
Ace Bandit
Cake?
Wullie Bell (his name always makes me laugh, like "Door Bell" and "School Bell" he's actually got one for his...
Howdy pardners (You only get wan)
Ken McGeoch's "bid"
Unhappy consortium members
Ripping the heart out of my club

I hope he's not saying that....cause that's my line

The fans are being given the owners stake so they dont start with a 2m debt to repay.
I would guess.

Read most of the posts and now as we are certain to become a CIC I think it's time to move forward. If you are against it which I think a small minority are.....let it go and see if your concerns are realised. If you are for it get involved and support it as much as you can. There are a majority who are supporting the team and don't care who owns the club. When the plubicity starts to flow on completion most of the fans will be able to see the true potential of the club and many will get involved. As we hear the funding bodies can defer up to £500,000 of the loan to grant and also delay repayments for up to 5 years we now have to remove the biggest barrier of joining the CIC. I am taking Sids point on here that we should never have a divided support. I have 4 mates who would not be in a position to sign up for £120 per year and are more worthy fans than me. The £15 levy for season ticket holders or the like MUST BE BROUGHT IN AT THE START and I would still be willing to honour my DD if it is. Although some posts on here belittle the new bar how would it feel to you if you had supported the club for 40 years and couldn't get in? it would be a disgrace!....One Town One Team.....One support with amenities and votes for all!......NO CIC "I HAVE MORE ACCESS THAN YOU" Fuc*witts!

I've already asked to look at the constitution once the draft is complete and offered a few pointers.

The sewage would complain.
The point being made here is that we have moved on from the will we / won't we debate to the Oh no, what have we done debate. The decision has been made, the funding is in place and control of the club is now happening. It is time to move on from the star fish licking behaviour of the "can I be your pal Richard" to serious debate about what this all actually means to the club as from the posts I am seeing on here many folk haven't got a scoobie.
The CIC team are currently driving the agenda rather than the supporters. Instead we see posters slabbering a lot of shite about this and that with no real coherence and a lot of personal agendas and general sychophancy - starfish licking.
It is now time for us to see specific detail in terms of the process for formation and ratification of the constitution. Is this going to be done in a single meeting with so many supporters still pretty confused about what they are getting into?
The petty nonsense is a distraction and probably one welcomed by the CIC chaps. We are entering a critical period that will define our club for years to come. No process for the formation of the CIC has been presented as yet, other than some sweeping indicators at the public meetings.
Time for all to accept that it is going ahead and to move the debate onto how we ensure that the fans are represented properly in the negotiation on structure, decision making, inclusiveness, consultation, etc.
A lot of the information management has been through one to one meetings and very good public meetings. It would now be useful to see some detail on the process for the formation of the CIC, its structure and how it will engage with the supporters.
Some of the pro CIC chaps are as unhelpful as the Yuls now. The likes of TsuMirren have served their purpose and should be consigned to dafty status where they belong.

Well, your support is certainly blind and something seen before elsewhere. The forum voice brought in close, the patsy. But, as you say, the three tiered structure at MYFC was totally different to this and so was the fan involvement and promise of bringing the club to the fans...what would I know.
The level of understanding at SMISA should be good as they'll have had more meetings with Richard and seen as many budget projections as probably anyone else has. The level of understanding at the public meetings was also good, well at the second one anyway. I've no issue with Richard, no issue with companies coming on board and no issue with a steady progress of the club. My issue is with the vision, admittedly only portrayed by yourself really (someone who's never, as far as I know, been involved in anything like this), of fans being drip fed some involvement and almost supposedly being expected to thank Richard for it.

Longwinded post, but you are still thick and don't understand a perfectly simple structure.
Your experience at Ebbsfleet is redundant. I have read nothing of relevance except someone taking the opportunity to bitch about a failed venture and try to tag it onto a completely different scenario. It's like trying to compare the Tile Bar Bus Football Card to the National Lottery.
One thing that is clear is that there is a lot of blind support and blind resistance in relation to the CIC from the bigger gobbed web haunters. Thankfully the level of understanding in SMiSA and the public meetings was much highers. Let's hope the eventual BoD Members joining me will come from those sources rather than t'Internet, whose role has been vastly overplayed in terms of the CIC.