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  1. garzo

    Paisley Pubs

    My reaction to this news is more than sad Jimmy. Devastating news at the loss of John. He was a really good guy.
  2. I'm not going to games, at the moment... Here are some reasons that might apply to me and perhaps others? No thanks or recognition, none whatsoever, for season long financial outlay during season of no attendance, (didn't watch online) No invitation, email or otherwise, to renew season ticket, #INYOUWETRUST is crass, Red zone and restricted attendance shambles, No contact to advise if I did by a season ticket my seat was not available because of the red zone, No contact to advise if I did by a season ticket , because of the red zone, I would be moved to somewhere else, No contact to advise the red zone is no longer in place and I can have my seat as normal, Both ends of the ground being allocated to an away team, St Mirren Directors being supporters of other (Glasgow) clubs, SMISA appointment of Directors without a members vote, Shambolic organisation of club services, Rumours of Directors infighting, power struggle, Dissatisfaction with Kibble or ownership structure, It's too cold, Football is not very good, COVID is still an issue, Other things taking priority now, Just some thoughts... take your pick, No doubt I'll be back, one day soon, don't know when though...
  3. taking your analogy... You've ordered a new car - , you've paid a deposit up front, about £20, It'll cost you £71 eventually, but you are aware you don't get delivery of it yet for at least another 6 years sir? and you are aware there are a few aspects of the car we're still trying to work out how to operate, like the brakes and headlights, steering wheel seems ok though. It'll be alright though when we deliver it to you - we're sure of that, of that you can be guaranteed 🙂 A while later... Sir, you know that car you've ordered, not due for another few years - we know you really like it. Well there's an opportunity for us to deliver it to you sooner. We've found a solution for the brakes and headlights and actually the steering is much better than before and you'll not believe this - it will cost you a lot less, only £51, Sir. How does that sound? Of course you are entitled to cancel your order, but I'm afraid sir you won't be entitled to your deposit back!
  4. The Kibble will benefit greatly from brand awareness and by association with St Mirren Football Club, Positioning themselves alongside the clubs brand will project them right out into the forefront across Scotland, They will benefit from the opportunities this brings them to grow their own business activities, They will have access to St MIrren football club facilities, which will in turn benefit vulnerable young people and the community of Paisley - that's why they exist. They are not hiding any of this and St Mirren Football club will benefit as a result.
  5. not to detriment or cost to SMFC though, that's what I heard. Worth following up on your point though - just to be clear.
  6. that offer is a bit short on detail, is it not? the one we have in front of us at the moment is a bit more than 6 lines in a thread in the middle of a fans forum! Come on get sensible Sir!
  7. Ahh it's a done deal then? this particular deal has still to have a vote, so I'm not prejudging the outcome of it. I'm observing you are out of sync on most other matters on here - I may be wrong though!
  8. if it;s in a shareholders agreement, of benefit to St Mirren then it will benefit the kibble and to be fair, it's not conflict that is of concern, alternative view points are to be encouraged. It's the outcomes that are important - if these are agreeable and of benefit to all, then the partnership will work.
  9. you've not let anyone down, you tried your best, just you're unfortunately out of sync with the majority!
  10. to be fair - does this deal not answer all of your concerns? are smisa not bringing this deal to the table, to bring on board the necessary expertise that you mention? it's actually a masterstroke by the fans group!
  11. That's in the past, it can still happen like that if the new offer a is not accepted. However, a new, better, more exciting deal is on the table. It's on the table for a significant portion of our clubs support to vote to accept or deny, I'll be voting to accept.
  12. big, big benefit in this deal is 51% fan shareholding in the club, a local charity partner in place to help grow the business and help provide long term sustainability of St Mirren FC. It's a good deal, it's a better one than just having smisa running the club and it's one that should be welcomed,
  13. Your first two points are 100% correct, no quibble! Kibble are offering the current majority shareholder money in exchange for his shares, locking in as far as I can see, another batch of shares to Smisa, taking their shareholding and stake in the club to a majority of 51%. Your third point is speculation. The fourth factually wrong!
  14. To be fair, there's no controlling interest to kibble in the proposals as far as I can add up the numbers sir! Use of club facilities should be at a fair commercial value. No reason why Kibble shouldn't benefit from the proposals as a result of association and link with the St Mirren Football Club and as such the football club should be looking to maximise benefit to itself and the local community. The football club, as always, will be responsible for investing in the playing squad, as I understand within our means.
  15. interested in following this up please if I may. Can I ask for examples you know about where kibble will make cash to the detriment of the club?
  16. garzo

    Value For Money

    Seriously, I'm not aware and it would be good to know about this.
  17. garzo

    Value For Money

    I'm unaware of this situation, please expand.
  18. garzo

    Value For Money

    what do you mean by this?
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