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banner today in the west bank with FFF, PTF on it.

the very idea of that git in our new stadium. setanta had better not bring him. I hope MacAvennie is the guest

just a comparision, view from that stand on monday daytime. so much more atmospheric looking at night.

pics make the stadium looks great under floodlights.

yeah missed it too as the wife was ill. anyone spilling the beans?

dunno if it'll be decent resolution.

saw an advert on the one way system for avalon "£1.50 all drinks all day." sounds desperate - thought that had reopened recently.

delighted for the big man. he's now goal-a-game. superb.

there's enough drinking there with the north end under 11's getting pished most nights.

done okay, but a goal threat?

firefox is your issue rather than quicktime.

maybe i'm just used to the delights of paisley's stunning wummin.

Fiona Bruce Sarah Montague Kate Silverton all get me thinking.

1. stopped hay taking charge 2. stopped hay taking charge 3. stopped hay taking charge 4. stopped hay taking charge 5. stopped hay taking charge

yardley lavety trigger shuggie mcwhirter are my top 5 best of the rest? gillies van zanten millen ludo broadfoot

couldn't get the doofer, but for 40 notes in tesco, down in Pollok, a sagem dtv box with free viewing card for setanta (£10) and first months viewing free (£10 again). sounds a good deal..

cheers joe, there's a doofer available for the idtv sets called a CAM that has the setanta card, the set up costs and one months viewing available in a package. I'm trying to get one and will let you guys know once i've got it installed. My tv is an integrated idtv, so getting another tellybox or sky or cable wasn't really an option i wanted and i'm quite happy with my existing broadband and my own wireless set up as well, had thought of the bt vision thing, but this will be better as i really don't want the bt wireless kit at all and it's a simple thing to plug into my telly (hopefully).

anyone done that option? i'm sort of tempted but the tellyboxs with slots are about £50 in the shops, plus £10 to activate the card before getting setanta. any ideas on cheapo tellyboxes with slots and viewingcards? .. and no i don't want sky or virgin cable.

Apologies, i've been ill a bit recently and haven't kept up to date with all the threads. interesting point by Div, but no-ones questioned his assumptions. First, has the long term future of St Mirren really been secured? Was the debt owed to the clydesdale bank and directors a long term problem? I'd say no to that as in this day and age £2 million isn't a big amount of money, Okay there was no white knight with that money in his pocket, but how many seasons of back to back SPL football would have made that debt sustainable or have made the clydesdale ease the pressure? I dunno, four or five? Was the sale of Love Street a short term solution? Sure it clears the debt and gives a new home for the club, but new stadium apart what does it give? The opportunity to cut out the annual interest paid to the Clydesdale and to try and run the club within the means of the Income generated by football and non football activities. Does that make Saints stronger? Only if the Income generated exceeds the Expediture season on season. I can't see the budgets for players greatly improving after the move, it will still be a case of getting younger players with potential in, or 'workmanlike' players that suit our budget. (our budget based on crowds and ticket sales may not greatly exceed some first division sides. I assume no-one would wish to see St Mirren ever again go into substantial debt, barring whatever overdraft might be needed to run the club from month to month. So where does the money come from to attract players or offer deals to keep our better ones. Maybe we have to accept that players who break through and give us a decent season will then go. There's an assumption that some of the present directors will look to go after the deal is done and probably quite rightly as they have placed themselves under great pressure to keep the club going in the past few years and have raised money to put in and have taken risks. They are entitled to every penny that they have given up for the good of St Mirren. But who will follow on? Who will but their shares? Paisley Businessmen that didn't fancy placing money in whilst the club was in the myre? Minority shareholders? Some investors looking for a return? Foreign businessman like Romanov? I Dunno, I pray that there's a few new millionaries made in the northbank diehards when that day comes. What will be the long term? I'll be honest enough to say I haven't a scoobie. Certainly there will be a St Mirren at the new ground, but one way or another, there will be a change in how the club operates and who owns it. My view on SMiSA is that it represents an opportunity for the fans to actually get a % of the ownership of the club and yes at the moment that % is small, but by building funds and having the ability to actually get a stake in the club is that not a better way to use the funds that accrue with an aim of getting to a point where maybe enough of the club is owned by the fans to tell any Reg Brearley that comes along in future to go f**k himself. SMiSA needs a decent annual contribution made by members if it will get to that level of control of the club. I think it's a waste of time turning it into an official fan club and funding buying T shirts and just limiting the aim to youth development activities. How about SMiSA eventually being strong enough to have a decent % share of ownership in the club and then turning over the subs raised each year to fund transfers and players wages. The more mature football trusts in england do that. They get their 15% or 20% ownership and then plough every brass penny into the wage and transfer kitty. Is that not a better vision than assuming our St Mirren has been saved by this land deal and turning SMiSA into a toothless fan club that always pays up however badly the club may be being run? That's my thoughts on it.

main hartley robson ferguson (barry) the perth fermer prick that gave millen a flying kick.

1. fishal site forum is fully of fannies 2. tartan army are fannies 3. smisa are fannies 4. yogi hughes is a fanny (keeps signing players we're after too) 5. meeja are all st mirren hating fannies.

1. too many weegies or weegie minded f**kers now live in the town. 2. town is filthy (people treat it like a bin) 3. traffic system is f**king loopy 4. no pride in being a buddie 5. the knowledge that weegieland has swallowed us whole.

the longest day was similar with loads of big names. i know it's tv rather than a movie, but band of brothers was superb and what about das boot as well?

surprised to see no-one mentioned that he's their first and only Catholic manager.

not in darkest clackmannanshire you won't. grants vodka or smirnoff at a push.