Sue Denim

A graph of absolute deaths per year from 1860 in Scotland below.

The WHO have now come out with a new way of defining cases.... Along with the coming of spring and summer, this will drastically reduce “cases” and allow them to declare the vaccines a great success. Without this new case definition and as we don’t know if the vaccines will reduce transmission, the pandemic would never end and we’d have a pseudo third wave next winter. https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05

I’m not the only one who is noticing that there are huge numbers of covid deaths being announced despite overall mortality being normal. As can be clearly seen from the graph below, in the “second wave” (note to @oaksoft - talking about the second wave here), as covid deaths go up, deaths of other causes go down and vice versa, in sync.

Overall mortality is normal just now baz. That is a fact. And the lockdowns you support have led to thousands of deaths so far, will lead to thousands more and have saved no-one.

Good article which, like me, questions why we are not seeing excess deaths now like were seeing in the Spring, something @oaksoft has just made an arse of himself over..... yet again. His stupidity knows no bounds. https://www.rt.com/op-ed/513141-covid-overall-mortality-normal/

Excess deaths are calculated by comparing deaths in any one year against the average of the previous 5 years. Back in 1918, the number of folk dying each year was much higher than it is now. In addition, the previous 5 years would have covered the period of World War 1.

Deary me. That article is talking about the *entire* pandemic. I’m not disputing that the pandemic in the spring caused a huge number of excess deaths. Indeed, my above quite clearly shows huge excess deaths in the pandemic in the Spring. My issue here is about the “second wave”. The numbers I’ve quoted above relate solely to last week’s results. If you are going to comment on my posts please at least know what you’re talking about.

I was just being polite when I said “eh?” I already knew your post was an ad hominem attack because the official NRS statistics disconcert you.

Eh?

The pseudo second wave can’t be denied. Record lows of non covid mortality. When covid deaths go up in the pseudo second wave, non covid excess deaths go down and vice versa. All in perfect sync. And the latest week figures show an unbelievable decline in non covid deaths. Impossible.

Latest weekly mortality figures out today from the NRS All cause mortality was 1.7% *lower* than the 5 year average. Yes, you read that right. Not only are there *zero* excess deaths in Scotland, all cause mortality is currently *negative* And yet there were 368 covid deaths out of a total of 1,534 Funnily, deaths of all causes other than covid were sharply down. Deaths from cancer down 17%, deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s down 32%, deaths from heart disease and stroke down 17%, all compared with the 5 year average. And looking at the place of occurrence, deaths in hospitals are 8% lower than the average with deaths in care homes 17% lower. Its a pseudo second wave.

Says someone whose who wishes he was part of the middle class left 😃

Why does it matter to you what others think? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Nope, it was your way of admitting that you don’t have any evidence, you made it up and you launched another ad hominem attack to defect yet again from me exposing your stupidity.