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I'm pretty confident that you will be. Both endgames are about countries being independent . I am all for countries being independent . Is it possible that , on the off chance that , the same forces that rallied to thwart a Yes vote in Scotland are now working to thwart leaving Europe going through . .just a thought , that's all . .

You should probably ask Junker and co that one? Dave Cameron said that , if we voted to leave Europe , it would be a clean break and we would get nothing ; no customs union , no single market . In January of 2017 , May repeated this, it would be a clean break , no quasi membership. She then went on to sign that treaty , so you are right the goal posts did move. I really don't know which point you are trying to make here and have to wonder , l really have to wonder if you do. .

Sorry, l fail to see any relevant connection there between the two statements. Has Farage upset you 🤔 Hmmm, I'll try and answer your question as best as l can. Farage , not being in a position of power in 2016 wasn't able to do a Norway deal . May said that no deal was better than a bad deal and then came back with the worst treaty in British history. . Could it be that , possibly, Farage realises that Junker and co would not negotiate that kind of deal ( the Norway one)with Britain and instead thought that they would use the so called Backstop to effectively stop Britain leaving??🤔

Initially, initially you may well be right but we were all willing to take a hit in 2014 had we got independence in that vote..

No it isn't

Is it ?

Hopefuly , it will appear , soon. .

Ahh , what happened to the bleeding heart liberal. .

He is right of course that no other party initially opposed the "named person" legislation , it was campaigners that took it to the courts and then when the Supreme court said it breached Human Rights then Swinney did another climb down . SNPbad? I think they have simply lost their way and should get back to core values of the Party but that would possibly mean getting rid of the power hungry St*rge*n . .

The good news for those who have moved to Bishopton , is that , the new junction there for the M8 , now in its fourth year of constuction, is now nearing completion. .

In other news the SNP's controversial "named person" legislation has been thrown out by the Supreme Court . This is the second time Swinney has had a climb down. . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49757890

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You might want to include the Guardian in that list too , after an horrendous comment it made with regard to Dave Cameron's disabled son. .

And in the end , they got an extreme Marxist regime anyway. .

You'll probably remember Smith met Wilson aboard a Royal Navy vessel ( effectively "British soil") and should have has him arrested for treason instead of letting him return to Rhodesia.

As you said on another thread , UDi by Smith let the door open for Mugabe and it was Harold Wilson who let Smith get away with it . .

A poll l saw put labour at 18% . You get constituencys like Pontefract which is labour and 70% leave they aren't going to vote Tory but l suspect they won't vote for labour

The Lib Dems l believe campaign on that. They have always been unionist.

Hoorah!

Yes correct but he never played first team for them I dont think, and was in bother with plod, and we took a chance, so in his eyes it's where it all began! Aye according to wiki he never played any senior games for Hips. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Broadfoot

Well Anxious made him skipper , which KB was very good at . Wee Anxious' skipper appointmets afterwards were not so good. .

12/05/07 , one of the best matches l have ever been to , a phenomenal comeback in the face of adversity and of course , the Paisley Saint Mirren travelling support were immense as usual , I remember a journalist accusing us of 'sucking the ball into the net' , it certainly looked like that with Suttons first that hit the sand and then went through Meldrums legs . .

KB ( all his siblings have the same initials) was the kind of player who could grab the game by the scruff of the neck and get us back into it. .good leader. .

Indeed, let there be badge kissing. .