Gary Teale Leaves By Mutual Consent.

[Dibbles old paperboy]

If anyone was treated badly it was Thommo. He wasn't given any opportunity and his contract has ran out "Teale has another year left".

Teale did his best but it didn't work out, he was treated fairly.

When Teale was out injured for most of a season, as well as trying to get fit again and doing all his own rehab work, Teale got involved in coaching the U20's. After that, and having obviously done well, he was offered a 2 year deal as a player / coach. My understanding is that while Thommo took his coaching badges at the same time as Teale and Goodwin, he hasn't shown the same interest in helping out at the club by getting involved in coaching, even when he had longer term injuries he didn't use that as an opportunity to volunteer to coach.

Maybe Thommo was overlooked for a coaching role because he hadn't shown the same enthusiasm and initiative to get involved as Teale and Goodwin had before they got appointed ahead of him?

[Kendo]

When Teale was out injured for most of a season, as well as trying to get fit again and doing all his own rehab work, Teale got involved in coaching the U20's. After that, and having obviously done well, he was offered a 2 year deal as a player / coach. My understanding is that while Thommo took his coaching badges at the same time as Teale and Goodwin, he hasn't shown the same interest in helping out at the club by getting involved in coaching, even when he had longer term injuries he didn't use that as an opportunity to volunteer to coach.

Maybe Thommo was overlooked for a coaching role because he hadn't shown the same enthusiasm and initiative to get involved as Teale and Goodwin had before they got appointed ahead of him?

The thing is, Tommy Craig picked Teale and Goodwin as his management team.

You only need to look at his signings to get a measure of his judgment. It's not Gary Teale's fault that TC picked the wrong management team. However to say GT has been badly treated is wrong.

[Dibbles old paperboy]

I'm sure that we are expecting and hoping that as Ian Murray makes the transition from managing a part time team to stepping up to manage a full time team that he will get support, backing and funds to help the club succeed.

My point about Teale being 'treated badly' rather than being given an opportunity to shine is, he was a rookie who still had a playing contract and a bit of coaching experience being asked to step in to a dire situation, a dire situation indeed (to quote Tedious Tom) only disguised by how appalling Motherwell and Ross County had also been before Christmas.

You would like to think that if a rookie is being thrown in at the deep end to a situation where every single gamble we had taken in the summer about managers, coaches, signings (and we had taken punts on 100% of those decisions) had backfired that the rookie manager would not just be left to it in the hope he could work miracles with no outside help. You might expect an experienced No.2 would be appointed, you might expect that after such a disastrous summer that some money would be made available to try and bring in a few January signings. Teale got none of that support. His first 7 weeks saw the chairman on holiday for 6 weeks in South Africa, no clarification if he was getting the job full time, rumours the club was being sold to at least 2 different consortiums who were bringing in their own men, talk that the board were looking through over 50 applications for the managers job, and told that no money was available for signings. It was little wonder Teale had little joy in his only transfer window in trying to attract players to a club that was about to be taken over / had already been taken over and where his position as manager hadn't been confirmed. He got rid of about 6 or 7 players during the January window to free up some cash to bring 1 or 2 in.

Despite that, by the end of January he had us up to 10th in the league and closing the gap a bit on Partick Thistle.

The board then sell our best player and top goal scorer on the final afternoon of the transfer window. Most of the money from the sale probably goes to fund Tommy Craig's pay off and make up the shortfall in the club accounts. Teale is left trying to sign U20 players from other clubs at the last minute and as late as March is signing the likes of Gow and Genev.

After result nosedive in February to April, the board tell the press that they looked at sacking Teale but decided it was too expensive and no one good enough was available.

Teale was in charge for 6 months and for 50% of the time at least the board were making a difficult situation for any manager (nevermind a rookie) almost impossible. What part of that is hard to understand about how you could argue he may have been treated badly? Would you like the board to show the same level of 'support' to Murray?

[Drew]

I'm sure that we are expecting and hoping that as Ian Murray makes the transition from managing a part time team to stepping up to manage a full time team that he will get support, backing and funds to help the club succeed.

My point about Teale being 'treated badly' rather than being given an opportunity to shine is, he was a rookie who still had a playing contract and a bit of coaching experience being asked to step in to a dire situation, a dire situation indeed (to quote Tedious Tom) only disguised by how appalling Motherwell and Ross County had also been before Christmas.

You would like to think that if a rookie is being thrown in at the deep end to a situation where every single gamble we had taken in the summer about managers, coaches, signings (and we had taken punts on 100% of those decisions) had backfired that the rookie manager would not just be left to it in the hope he could work miracles with no outside help. You might expect an experienced No.2 would be appointed, you might expect that after such a disastrous summer that some money would be made available to try and bring in a few January signings. Teale got none of that support. His first 7 weeks saw the chairman on holiday for 6 weeks in South Africa, no clarification if he was getting the job full time, rumours the club was being sold to at least 2 different consortiums who were bringing in their own men, talk that the board were looking through over 50 applications for the managers job, and told that no money was available for signings. It was little wonder Teale had little joy in his only transfer window in trying to attract players to a club that was about to be taken over / had already been taken over and where his position as manager hadn't been confirmed. He got rid of about 6 or 7 players during the January window to free up some cash to bring 1 or 2 in.

Despite that, by the end of January he had us up to 10th in the league and closing the gap a bit on Partick Thistle.

The board then sell our best player and top goal scorer on the final afternoon of the transfer window. Most of the money from the sale probably goes to fund Tommy Craig's pay off and make up the shortfall in the club accounts. Teale is left trying to sign U20 players from other clubs at the last minute and as late as March is signing the likes of Gow and Genev.

After result nosedive in February to April, the board tell the press that they looked at sacking Teale but decided it was too expensive and no one good enough was available.

Teale was in charge for 6 months and for 50% of the time at least the board were making a difficult situation for any manager (nevermind a rookie) almost impossible. What part of that is hard to understand about how you could argue he may have been treated badly? Would you like the board to show the same level of 'support' to Murray?

At any point throughout the period you describe above, Teale could have have knocked on the door of the boardroom and advised that he didn't think his position was viable given resource constraints etc. He still had a substantive contract so wouldn't have been leaving himself without a job and means to make a living.

Presumably he believed he could turn things around. In the final analysis, he fell short. So it goes. This wasn't harsh treatment, however. It was just the reality of the situation.

Indeed, it could be argued that he was given an enviable opportunity. After the Craig debacle, few of us heaped pressure on a rookie manager to perform miracles. Had the likes of Butcher or Calderwood been brought in after Craig was bagged, they would, quite reasonably, have been subject to a great deal more scrutiny and expectation while in the post. That's the natural order of such things, and is reflected in the fact that his departure has been met with messages and gestures of goodwill.