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Haven't done the Cuillin Ridge before, but my mate and I climbed Sgurr Alistair last year, so got a good feel for what it was like. Doing Liathach, Beinn Alligin and An Teallach for the first time in June. Cannae wait.

I'm going to give a shout for Kylesku in the North West. A magic wee place and a superb gateway for climbing brilliant hills such as Quinag, Suilven, Cul Mor, Foinaven, Arkle and many more.

I resemble that remark!!!!

I'll admit I was being a wee bit tongue in cheek. You are of course right. It's down to the individual. I just found 5 days was the right blend for me of going at a pace I was comfortable with, whilst still being able to appreciate everything around me. I am nails though!!

Ha Ha. No not having it. I met many an old git doing it in 5 days. I'm not exactly young either. Change "Old Git" to "over 75" and I'll give you it.

This is the way to do it. Potential to swap Inveroran for Bridge of Orchy. Not much in it. Anyone who does the WHW in more than 5 days is one of the following:- 1) A lazy bassturt 2) A girl 3) the blouse belonging to a big girl I've done it 3 times over 5 days and the only mistake I've made was the first time, when me and my mate slightly underestimated walking 27 miles from Milngavie to Rowardennan in the pishing rain. Don't think I've ever been quite so knackered in my puff as I was that night. We were rewarded though with the following 4 days being absolutely glorious sunshine. As others have said, as long as you are even half fit, wear the proper footwear and look after your feet, then it's a walk in the park (albeit a very beautiful park). The only section that can be tough (more mentally than physically) is the section between Inversnaid and Inverarnan. It's only about 6 or 7 miles, but because it is really slow going, it seems to last forever and can be a bit soul destroying. Highly recommended. In fact think I might do it again soon.

Murray Street's gone a bit quiet after that dressing down. For what it's worth, I agree wholeheartedly with FS on this. Around the time of France 98, I got to a position where I had the means to follow Scotland (something I'd always wanted to do but could never afford). I went to the World Cup and then a couple of the qualifiers for Euro 2000 and was astonished by the quality of the Scotland support and humbled by the reception we received from locals. Between 2000 and 2011 I went to every competitive Scotland away game and as many friendlies as my wallet/Missus would allow. As you can imagine that period covered:- The turgid late Broon era The disastrous Berti era The steady the ship Smith era The hod on a minute are we good again McLeish era The don't be daft naw we urnae Burley era; and The get yersel tae phuk ya arrogant specky twat Levein era So whilst this period of time never captured the magic of the 70s/80s, by recent standards it covered a pretty mixed bag in terms of team performance. The notion that I went just for the party is utter nonsense and in my opinion 95% of the Tartan Army would agree with that. I didn't really understand Murray Street's point in relation to that. If we only followed a successful team, St. Mirren Park would be empty every week. As for behaviour of the TA, lets use me as an example. On my many trips I have been.... Sober Drunk and behaving well Drunk and behaving like a bit of a tit I'd like to think that for the majority of the time I was firmly ensconsed in category 2. Again in my experience, so have 95% of the TA. Being drunk does not = being a fanny. Being a fanny = being a fanny. From time to time you will witness these fannies on TA trips and it's fair to say, the bigger the crowd, the more fannies there's likely to be. In exactly the same way, if our beloved buddies ever qualify for Europe again, are people (Murray Street) seriously trying to suggest that there won't be any fannies present in our away support. Jimmy H will be there for sure. I gave up in 2011 through mental health issues. I basically didn't think it was mentally healthy that I wanted to murder Craig Levein after THAT game in Prague. If truth be told i think I was getting a wee bit old for it too. But I still watch every Scotland game on telly, i still desperately want them to win and in the context of this thread, I'm still immensely proud of 95% of what I experienced on away trips. The other 5% is not to be discussed. PS - Contrary to popular belief "Jimmy Hats" are very rarely seen on away trips. Glengarrys wi big stupit feathers aye, but Jimmy Hats seems to predominantly be the preserve of the home crowd.

Hmmm. I think you might be taking a daft wee bit of fun thread a wee bit too seriously mate.

Not that I'm for one minute making excuses for Stark (I agree he's clueless), but his job is to pick who he thinks are the best players for the squad. If he thinks the guys playing for Wigan or Celtic reserves are better players than ours, then he'll pick them and who's to say he's wrong. Neither McGinn nor MacLean have done anything like enough this season to warrant a call up, or at least haven't done enough to be able to complain about not getting called up.

Come on Shull. Yer a wee bit hatey when it comes tae Naisy, Broony, Hutty and Whitty. I agree though. I've not hated a player since I was a wean. Back then i hated loads though. Some that spring to mind are:- Gregor Stevens Peter Millar Willie Pettigrew Alex MacDonald John MacDonald Tony Higgins (??) Tommy Burns (??) John Grieg Derek Johnstone Andy Ritchie Gordon Strachan The list is probably endless, but there's a few. The ones with the "??" are because I cannae remember any good reason why I hated them so much. The others I think speak for themselves. ETA : I could never bring myself to hate Paul Hartley. Don't know if it's because I was older by then, but I used to just find myself thinking..."Fair play tae ye son. Ye certainly know how tae wind these dafties up".

Bit harsh that. If he had dwelled on it or turned into an on rushing attacker and been dispossessed, we'd be giving him pelters. He did exactly the right thing in the circumstances.

Not sure that was technically a last minute goal but well worth a mention. I went particularly mental at that goal mainly because Rangers had just equalised a Frank MacDougal opener for us through a dodgy penalty because of that wee diving bass John MacDonald. If I remember right we were in the enclosure at Ibrox that day because the broomloan road end was being developed at the time.

Wife's sweet spot? Wife's sweet spot? Is that somewhere in between a spade mashie and a mashie niblick?

They certainly are Oaksoft. Personally I once used my Baffie and Cleek to bag an albatross. Also, my spoon has a hickory shaft which is a bit of a rarity these days, but it causes me to duck hook terribly so I tend to use my Brassie instead. Occasionally I'll get out my Rutting Iron, but I tend to spray it about a bit with that, so usually leave it in my bag. My best stuff is reserved for around the dancefloor when I can get my Jigger and Niblick out. You should take up the gowf. It's a smashing game.

Tony is the nicest man in the world ever. Would you really expect him to say anything else?

I agree with this. The best example of it I can think of was when Jimmy H ran on the pitch at half time in a pre season friendly at Grimsby in 2002 to take a penalty against Scrim. The Ginger Ninja saved his pathetic powder puff effort by throwing his bunnet on it.

Is that taxi driver miles?!?!? It's half that surely?

Nah the Glengarry is the king of bunnets. Although I will concede that some footsoldiers get a bit over exuberant in their pheasant molesting.

Oddly enough the Jimmy hats tend to be the preserve of the home support for some reason. You very rarely see them at away games. They are indeed fecking embarrassing.

Ach I just got bored. Short attention span. I'm more of a scone man actually.

Hmmmm. I win.

You referred to the TA as being "in fancy dress". If you saw someone wearing a Scotland top, a pair of timberland boots and a pair of jeans, would you refer to them as being in fancy dress? I think not. So you clearly think the wearing of a kilt is fancy dress. I say national dress. Mine fits fine, as do most of the ones I've seen over the years.

Yes it must be. In my experience (which is considerable - going almost 10 years without missing a competitive away game), the vast majority of the Scotland support is good natured, friendly, well behaved and most importantly welcomed with open arms all over Europe. The problem is people like you who see a bit of youtube footage of some bladdered tit dancing around naked in a fountain and decide that the whole support is like that. Idiots do exist and the bigger the game, the more idiots there are. It's a numbers thing. Also the notion of ridiculing people for wearing their national dress is just a bit sad. If anything annoys me about the TA, it's that it can get a bit self-congratulatory at times and that irks me a bit. I stopped following Scotland away because Levein was a total kvnt (last trip the Prague no strikers debacle) and if the truth be told, I had grown out of the party side of the trips. However, I loved almost every minute of every trip (maybe apart from being set upon by about 50 Ukrainian casuals). I met some fantastic people and was very proud to be associated with such great set of supporters.

Why? Do you think ours is better than theirs too?

Yeah. Imagine there always being a few dicks in a crowd of thousands. Shocking so it is.