Doakes

Pathetic thread Can take his son to the football if he wants, watching our next opponents is pretty standard

Never going to happen, it's a sure way to lose the next GE. Hope you are right but not so sure... Seems to be a movement towards blaming "the unvaccinated" for everything. Although the definition of unvaccinated doesn't always indicate a lack of immunity, either through previous infection (which has now been removed from England's pass), or having previous jabs without appetite for the latest booster. Think a lot of Tory voters would quietly support that policy at first

Watching the patterns - If I was a betting man, - knowing the Tories - I'd wager that we'll soon see "free" NHS healthcare removed from anyone classed as unvaccinated. Especially after Rishi Sunak's recent trip to the USA Chancellor Rishi Sunak to return from US trip early over Covid concerns - BBC News It will no doubt be a popular idea at first, anyone who's had the jab has the psychological urge for that to mean that they get preferential treatment over someone who hasn't had the jab... they've took a risk and someone else hasn't - why shouldn't that mean I get something they don't? But - I'll predict that as time goes on, and the appetite for constant boosters drops off, it might become more of an issue. Especially the choice is to either get the booster to continue to receive NHS treatment, or pay an exorbitant price for your health care plan.

Feeling a lot of doom and gloom around with the latest news but here's some positive news From COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report (Week 50) - page 4 COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report - week 50 (publishing.service.gov.uk) "Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 98.4% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 22.7% that have antibodies from infection alone" That's a very strong number and suggests that the vast vast majority of people/friends/family have protection against serious infection Great bit of work on Brownstone's website: 140 Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted ⋆ Brownstone Institute A lot of good news in these studies, natural immunity holding up extremely well against the virus. Going by the surveillance report that means a fair amount of natural immunity already exists, even without vaccination. If the NHS is under threat - with 98.4% the population having antibodies... you've got to wonder what the government have done wrong with the emergency funding. It needs to make sense.

Any theory could be correct or incorrect The fact that many scientists and doctors disagree about our current direction and is a good thing, imo. That's one of the great things about democracy. I'd be more worried if there were not conspiracy theories. If an "official narritive" cannot be questioned it's entering into a weird territory

Yes that's the one! My (vague) understanding of it is that if you create a vaccine, after inoculation your body develops the antibodies. But after a period of time, the antibodies decrease (hence the need for boosters). If you then encounter a wild coronavirus, instead of being protected you can actually develop a more serious infection. I'm sure there are people far more qualified to explain why this is unlikely to happen, but there are several peer reviewed studies to suggest that it's a risk to rely purely on vaccination for a coronavirus based on animal trials.

The vaccines certainly work to an extent, but because they don't stop transmission of the virus, it's always going to be a tough sell to convince people that taking several more boosters to be classed as fully vaccinated is the right way to go. An Israeli health minister recently stated that it's going to take 7 boosters, possibly more, for Israeli's to be considered fully vaccinated. As I said earlier in the thread - MRNA vaccine technology is designed to allow boosters for the latest variant, but there is a counter theory that it could also encourage ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) Are people willing to commit to a booster once every 6 months (possibly even less) to maintain their fully vaccinated status? Is it a matter of time before you have a bad reaction to one of them? Will we ever be considered fully vaccinated? These are the important questions

Where do you propose the folk that we don't vaccinate and catch this virus, then subsequently require hospital care get accommodated? There are very few people in the UK with zero protection at this point. Most have either had the virus, or been vaccinated. Death rate is extremely low, especially for the new variant. Do we just continue like this forever? Why is it ok to allow people to die of cancer because they are still waiting for treatment, but not of a virus? More about control than it is about a virus

Ignoring the fact that the leaky vaccines still allow transmission, Britain is now a heavily vaccinated country with a low death rate - by prioritising boosters for healthy people with well functioning immune systems over assisting developing nations with large numbers of unvaccinated people seems an odd way of going about things If it was all about saving lives, they would be prioritising getting the NHS back to full capacity - waiting lists for cancer treatment, operations etc. are absolutely massive and need to be addressed as a matter of priority Moving on to boosters 4, 5, 6, 7 at such a frantic rate is unnecessary and not what the public signed up for. What happened to getting back to normal once most of the population was vaccinated?

Is the penny dropping for anyone yet?

Crisis you say?

It's a great shout, club could also donate free tickets if they are feeling generous. Better than having empty seats and could make someone's weekend to have a free day out to the football

If he does go, my vote for new chairman

With McGrath and Erhahon out, would be tempted to go 2 up front tonight? Brophy and Main

Could the club hold fundraising events? Perhaps have a few ex players or club legends do talks in the club bar. I'm sure they would sell like hot cakes, especially if we knew the money was going to such a worthwhile cause