Why are people trying to justify a team who are not even competing, with "we dont measure ourselves against team a, team b etc" "our season wont be dictated by results against team a, team b etc", thats simply crap - this team wouldnt compete in the championship. There is not one player thats been brought in that you would say has improved us since last season.
Stubbs is a fraud, how long is he going to get away with it?