beyond our ken

he claied at the time he was researching a book, maybe i missed it there are some obvious jokes about port glasgow women that could be used here, currently i'm better than that. Just

looking more and more that senior persons in the BBC and in health boards either colluded to protect jimbo or simply tolerated his behaviour at a time when complaints could just be waved away. Perhaps, even if he was exposed sooner, he would have got let off in much the same way as that creep Townshend. Still waiting on that book you were researching, Petey boy

doncaster's comments only reinforce my view that scottish soccer is a rigged game and not worthy of the entrance fee required to witness the sham competitions It's become showbusiness, where there are a few big stars and a host of bit part players who know full well that their role is to accept their lot and support the stars, in return they have the hope that they are part of the lucky 5% who make it big for a short while

You are unnecessarly sensitive. i take it to mean that they will be very selective as to who they will consider from here on in and it is not an inferred criticism of anyone associated with the failed bid. I'm sure the board will be happy to deal with anyone who was associated with 10000 hours and who is able to bring a credibl proposal to the table

for ELO fans http://elo.biz/media/videos/26111/35521 Jeff lynne has a solo album, a rework of ELO hits, a BBC documentary on o5/10 and an apparent reunion with hos keybord oppo Richard Tandy (maybe THE best prog-rock keyboardist) in the offing I think i smell Glastonbury 2013, the brits and maybe more not so sure about the ELO retro, but the covers album sounds stunning

Looking at his photo, i dont think he is tough enough for the job he looks like he's soft wares

Neither, it's a co-incidence

Scott You spend your working week dealing with the sick , you dont have to spend your weekends doing the same

fair enough, your assertion that gossip based on 20% of the facts equals the truth trumps anything i have to offer

I'd be really careful about making that kind of accusation, unless you have proof to back it up. Even SG stopped well short of saying that he even suspected that. He did indulge in a wee bit of insinuation, but it never went beyond that. as far as we know, K McG is still a saints fan with the best interests of the club at heart, albeit a little misguided in his handling of his bid

I'd agree, i think he is working on a timescale of weeks or maybe months to make them sellable, after Christmas, if they havent been sold and as it gets towards the end of year financials, i think we will see new problems emerge (or old ones resurfacing) It's a gamblers strategy, several people putting in what to them is small change and any investment is taken on debt. If it works they all get investment x 10 back, if it doesnt they get a percentage of their outlay back as preferred creditors. One way or another the orcs pick up the tab

I'd imagine not, what will come out now is that some sort of bond has been promised to the SFA/SFL in exchange for a license and league membership. The debts are starting to build up already-interesting times. i really do feel another crash coming on

Rangers will go belly up again and Greene will sell off the assets, leaving an almighty mess behind. If you look at recent comments such as the bigot accusations, 25 year deal for McCoist, etc, it's clear that he is playing to the sweaty masses and keeping them whipped up. But they cant sustain the spending and i suspect the players they are signing have a clause that allows rangers to cancel their contract at any time with minimal penalties

Why would anyone want to support a bad option?

and any other sanctions that arise from misdeeds by the oldco. alternative is to wait until they have the necessary finacial records and apply as a new member Brilliant

Things were way better when we had farry, the game was run much more efficiently when he was in charge. He got suckered into a war with mcCann who needed a victory for his unwashed army. The campaign to get him removed was the greatest crime against Scottish Football as it left the OF in an untouchable position and the game has never recovered.

What is influencing them? at a guess I'd say they are being tied to chairs with their eyelids clamped open in an auditorium as they are fed drugs and are forced to watch a flm loop of murder, rape, earthquake, pestillence, hunger poverty and sodomy as Jim Traynor's latest back-flipping editorial covering the doom that awaits anyone who doesnt give rangers everything they want is read out at a volume of 110 decibels by Ian McKellen

Nobody advocating punishment of the CIC, the OP says it all, let them know you are back on board as long as this proposal is flushed out where it should be. Money talks, and the £1.5 million chegue that the CIC arethinking of giving tothe consortium is the best voice we have to speak out against this perverse proposal. And let's face it, it's more honest. there are very few of us who will support SMFC regardless of who owns it if this goes through. It's best to let them know how seriously todays events have undermined the bid for the club

You are not so naive as to think that TTH are not a viable and potentially extremely effective pressure point that can get the consortium to distance themselves from the SPL proposal. Nobody is saying walk away for ever, but the fans should be king in this scenario and we need to know we are being valued.

and anything else you have signed with 10000 hours, but let them know you will be happy to reinstate if both St Mirren and 10000 hrs publicly distance themselves from the proposals to help rangers, before the proposal fails for other reasons

you are 100% right on donkeymaster, but unfortunately he has been working on this for a while, surely with the connivance of the 11, or maybe 12, chairmen. This gave them the chance for some posturing and apparent high-handednes, but all the time they knew they were getting a compromise that they could use to try and save face whilst whilst backing into rangers woody. Nasty people, every single one of them.

As i posted in another thread, the announcement of voting intentions by other chairmen was only an invite to negotiate. All along they have looked for a way to be found to allow Rangers back in the SPL in jig-time with minimal loss of income. I dont think anyone anticipated that it would be such a shabby deal though. Even if Rangers do eventually fail to get a team together, this has tainted the name and reputation of all concerned forever. Dignity-RIP Integrity-RIP SMFC-RIP

Now i see what you did there, you took a phrase that is similar to the one that I quoted (accurately) from div's post and wove it into a little rant of your own, how much of your precious time on this planet did you waste in the process? I find it objectionable to use collective phrases that characterise humans in that way, I'ver seen and heard similar over many years of being involved with all sorts of different people who had little regard for their fellow humans, it lowers the tone and in any case, YOU ARE TALKING BOLLOCKS. 10000 hours is not a crowd funded internet based funding vehicle. It is a community interest company (I think that is what it is this week) You dont know me, you dont know my thoughts or anything for ambitions for St Mirren. Just so you are aware, i am 100% in favour of a supporter-owned club. I dont even have any objections to the concept of 10000 hours bid, i do have some reservations and remain to be convinced 100%, but that would be my viewpoint on almost any bid for St Mirren. If i seriously wanted to undermine 10000 hours, then the best way would be to use your recent posts (bullying rants would be a more accurate description) as a way of demonstrating the kind of fanny you dont want ANYWHERE near a football club. I am the kind of person you should be trying to persuade, not alienate. Having such an ill-judged, beligerent and poorly-informed go at me demonstrates that you have no ambition to do what is in the best interests of the club. PS, I "liked" your post simply because it gave me so much amusement and something to do during a 5 minute break.

Would you really trust what Hearts say? they are obviously positioning to be "persuaded" by a counter argument. Best to wait and see.