Mr Optimistic

OH FFS!!! Fed up hearing about it! It happened its not being knocked down and its time to look forward and not back! That's the problem with a huge majority of Buddies, their glass is half empty ( you only need to read this forum to realise that!!!). This is a fantastic opportunity for Paisley and there seems to be a genuine buzz about the place. I hope Buddies will get behind this bid and stop banging on about the build over the river and Braehead Shopping Centre!!!!

*********STOP PRESS STOP PRESS STOP PRESS***** Sensible post on match day thread after defeat!!!!!!

The tackle was an act of cowardice and thuggery. If the tactics used by Livingston FC is how they want to win then sport in general and football in particular is absolutely F**ked!!!! Decided to crowd the refferee every time Jim Goodwim made a tackle forcing his substitution. Rolled around after every challenge without sustaining a single injury. Had 6 yellow cards and one red (and should have been more) Conned the referee ( who was absolutely useless) at every turn. Don't get me wrong this St Mirren team will continue to be bullied to death in this league, particularly in midfield, but Livingston FC were a disgrace tonight.

Really??? How much would they make then? You have no idea do you? Just plucked a figure out the air and claimed the club would make decent Wonga!!! When you look at your 85 quid the VAT is about £14 leaving £71.. £22 for a match ticket takes it to £49. So for £49 St Mirren pay for 3 course meal wine, all the drink you can drink, half time tea coffee and bite to eat, glass of fizz on arrival and whats left is profit. Decent Wonga I think not!!! People on here should really engage brain before posting pish!!! But hey it's never going to happen

Great to see the fans council providing that great link between club and supporters!!! Thanks for the information and detail

Polls show the Tory's at 17% in Scotland only 8% behind Labour!!! But don't let the facts spoil your usual unfunny attempt at Humour

The fact you couldn't sell 200 tickets for an event that should have sold twice over would suggest otherwise. You obviously think the format was right so lets agree to disagree. What you can't disagree with is that you have completely failed with your aims detailed on your website Our Aims; To act as an intermediary between the Club and the Fans-In what way has that happened? Give me one example To share knowledge and best practice and to improve relationships between the various stakeholders, in particular the relationship between the Fans and the Club.- Relationship between fans and club is at an all time low! To provide a good communication flow, between the Club and the Fans.- What communication flow would that be then? To provide a platform for the Fans to ensure they are involved in appropriate decision making.- Really!!?? To act as the prime movers in various fund raising initiatives for the mutual benefit of the Club, the Fans and the Community.- Mmmmm??? One out of 6 at best!!!

Dear oh dear!! You clearly don't understand the concept of a forum, but I will leave you alone as good honest debate doesn't appear to be your strong point.

WHO?

It's football but not as we know it!!! Exhibition stuff and as well as talent their work rate is extraordinary!!! A joy to watch.

So what part of my post do you disagree with? PS I think you may have your caps lock button on.

Osbourne wasn't a decent player, he did everything sideways and backwards. Hardly ever played a forward pass. He was as bad as the dozens and dozens of duds we have signed under Danny, Tommy and Gary. Not a single player in the squad I would be upset to see go and certainly not three or four we can build a team round. That makes the appointment of manager all the more important as the last three's record of signings is a huge factor in why we are in this mess.

with nearly 40,000 posts its clear you don't get out much... It closed June 2014!!! You can however still find one on Paisley High Street.

You're not really getting how this works are you!!! When a player has a contract you can't sack them or release them (unless you are going to pay off their contract) However if a player wants to leave 99 times out of 100 he gets his way! in other words the player holds all the aces these days. The fact is we haven't signed a decent player since Steven Thompson (2011) ( and he fell into our lap) and have given contracts to dozens and dozens of players who were no where near good enough to play at this level. Danny, Tommy Craig and Gary Teale have wasted huge amounts of money in wages on signing nobodies and never have beens!! That coupled with the ridiculous decisions to give the Managers Job to Craig and then Teale is why we are in this mess!! it's not really rocket science.

A Fan buy out!!! You've got to be joking!! The thought of anyone on this forum having a say in how the club is run would be the end of us. As for Smisa and the fans council.... one can't sell 200 tickets for a legend night (turned into a casino night!!!!) and the other holds its AGM on a bank holiday weekend Jesus everything about St Mirren these days is amateur hour.

No They don't!!! what Planet do you live on? Fans are leaving in ever increasing numbers

The day we appointed Craig the game was up. Worst team in the worst SPL in living memory. For f**k sake we signed Alan Gow!!! Tells you everything you want to know. We no longer sign players from the bargain basement we are scurrying around in the charity shops. Can't remember when we signed a decent player. Dozens and dozens of absolute duds!!! We are where we deserve to be. Ross County now 10 ahead.. we won't get 10 points between now and the end of the season!!

They are not football fans like the rest of us and should indeed be fleeced by everyone. And not because there are lots of them.

Is that the best the forum could come up with!!!?

£25!!!! Would love to know how many they sell to St Mirren fans at that price. Doubt it will run into three figures. What an absolute joke!!

I wish I had the answer!! I'm just of the opinion that a complete clear out is required and to promote for within (again!!!!) would be a mistake. Gary Locke is someone who was available when we made the disastrous Tommy Craig appointment. Whether he would have come is open to debate, but his record with a piss poor Kilmarnock team isn't too bad since he's been in charge.

Natural man management skills? What do you base that on?.. gary teale has at least the same amount of experience as Thommo and Tommy Craig much more.... didn't make them the right men for the job...time to clear the decks and get someone in with no ties to the current disaster.. Thommo? maybe one day in the future... not just now for me.

Why not Thommo? well he was 4th or 5th choice at best this season and its time for a clean sweep.. out with the old in with the new!!! Experience is what is needed with a clean slate!

Can't even sell 200 tickets for this event. will sell eventually, (maybe) but casino night!!!??? dear oh dear .. Amateur hour at it best!!! Couldn't run a piss up in a brewery comes to mind!!!

Become MR REALISTIC....but note you don't disagree