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Noticed that the other day no one seems to give a shit there's those big bins over flowing with rubbish the pond area is just an overgrown mess with the gates ripped off and what looks like metal doors just thrown at the side of the drive in area to the car park it dosent make for a good impression .Just can't understand why they would let these things happen before you know it the place will be falling to pieces it just needs one thing not to be sorted then another before you know it weve got a ramshackle of a stadium .That will be why nobody has bothered putting the two players who were inducted to the hall of fame wall two years ago up I.e no ones bothered its a real shame .

Are people genuinely complaining about this or just fishing?
I'm seriously confused.
Another positive move by the club.

Junker's position is entirely clear. He has agreed with the President of the European Commission and the President of the European Council, who when asked specifically about Scotland said:
"A new independent state would, by the fact of its independence, would become a third country with respect to the EU".
"A new state, if it wants to join the European Union,has to apply to become a member of the EU, like any state."
Juncker also added, "One does not become a member of the EU by sending a letter".

Obviously. Sigh.But it's been shown on this forum many times that a Scottish government would not be starting from the same place as Norway did, nor with the same social and financial systems in place.
I was wholly sympathetic when Iraq kicked out our oil cartel and decided to go it alone. It meant deals with Russia and South Africa and whoever would take their oil and prices were not as good, but...it was independence. They kicked out the Capitalists who had control of all the refineries and distribution chains(service stations) in the oil-guzzling West. And took their chance.
Nationalists don't even want their own currency or to ditch the monarchy, so there's fat chance of Capitalism being even mildly ruffled!
The point I was making to Ian, and that you didn't address, is that there should be no expectation of oil industry execs moving to Scotland, just cos (for the sake of argument) it's Scotland's oil.

On the other hand, Scotland joining the EU creates a precedent for separatists. It makes sense for member states to get it right over getting it done quickly, otherwise there could be a whole stream of separatists trying to break the EU into lots of tiny territories. Every single nation has a veto, it only takes one nation to be unhappy with what's on the table to delay things. Of course it will be a political decision. Better Together have said that all along. Politics isn't simple and that's part of the problem.
Your misrepresentation claim doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I'm certainly not naive on the subject. The very fact that you expect there to be political negotiations gives credence to Better Together's position that there are significant risks involved in voting for independence in regard to joining the EU. It is the SNP that fails to recognise any risk.

On the other hand, Scotland joining the EU creates a precedent for separatists. It makes sense for member states to get it right over getting it done quickly, otherwise there could be a whole stream of separatists trying to break the EU into lots of tiny territories. Every single nation has a veto, it only takes one nation to be unhappy with what's on the table to delay things. Of course it will be a political decision. Better Together have said that all along. Politics isn't simple and that's part of the problem.
Your misrepresentation claim doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I'm certainly not naive on the subject. The very fact that you expect there to be political negotiations gives credence to Better Together's position that there are significant risks involved in voting for independence in regard to joining the EU. It is the SNP that fails to recognise any risk.

No it isn't.
Barrosso (President of the European Commission) has had his say.
Van Rompuy (President of the European Council) has had his say.
Juncker (President elect of the European Commission) has had his say. He agrees with the other two.
You started a thread, very explicitly accusing Better Together of saying that "Scotland would not get into the EU". That was a false allegation. Can you not accept that?
And right on time, this pops up:

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

The issue for me is not whether we could join/remain part of the EU... it is why the hell we would want to be part of the EU with absolutely no pre knowledge of what part we could play or what autonomy we would have.
Are we SO desperate to remove power from Westminster (which I agree must happen) that weare prepared to potentially give even more power to Brussels?
To me, that is NOT independence.

exactly, people discredit others for telling lies and making stuff up, then post journalistic speculation from Mr A Source and dress it up as fact, i have said before and will again state - yes campaigners are their own worst enemies

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

The original post on of this thread is an appalling misunderstanding of what has gone on before.
Better Together has not ever said Scotland could not get into the EU.
The questions and uncertainty relate to the route for gaining entry, the timescale for gaining entry and the terms of entry. All of these valid and extremely important question remain today.
Unfortunately most nationalists and the Scottish Government are unwilling to acknowledge the risks associated with these issues and are selling "independence" on a false risk profile. The Scottish Government's position is mere assertion and fantasy.

Source please.

Why won't the European Parliament release a statement categorically stating that an independent Scotland will automatically get into the EU?
I will tell you why, because they don't know, no one knows. It's uncertain, just like most of the issues in an independent Scotland. The pound, the EU, pensions... I could go on.
No wonder the Scottish nation can't wait to vote no.

I'm afraid you'll just have to accept that millions of pounds of public money is going to be used to restore this.
It's not a museum, it's a working college which educates generations of kids allowing them to build careers, which results in greater tax take for the country than would otherwise be realised.
Colleges and universities are not a cost - they are an investment in young people. It would be nice if more young people actually showed some sign of appreciating this financial commitment from the country rather than piss 4 years away in the pub but that's another story.
That is why this will quite rightly be funded from the public purse.

Main thing is no one was hurt. However, it's not "only a building", that implies it has the same status as a supermarket, identikit housing estate or shitty office block.
It's bit more relevant and iconic than that. Iconic buildings define images of cities. Think of Sydney, Paris, London and a host of other cities across the world. For many the GSoA is that for Glasgow. Thousands of people visit Glasgow each year just to see and photograph the building - it's hugely important part of Scotland's tourism economy.
The reason for that, is because it is THE defining building of an architectural era/movement.
Also, think about when it was built and how progressive it was. Think of all the shitty buildings you live your life in and around! Without realising, architecture and urban planning are probably up there in terms of what people complain most about because it's what we experience most.
It's phenomenal to think about when it was built and the fact it has been used constantly and remained relevant as a place of learning, motivation and creativity. It's not some private company hq, it's there for the benefit of everyone and one of the few buildings that public money should be used to rebuild it.

I'm pretty sure that this is one of the most photographed, researched and documented buildings in the country. i doubt there is a single detail that cant be re-created. Sad to see the original go but it will be re-built and you won't be able to see the join.
As for the student's art-work. That is the real tragedy. the work that is lost represents a quarter of a lifetime to some of these kids. Hopefully they will get the help they need, with at least the same priority as the re-building will get.

pretty rapid to have conducted a full investigation and root cause analysis, but please, do share your findings with us

With respect bud you don't talk like you have the faintest idea what it takes to do that job properly.
They don't just turn up at 9am and start teaching. The preparation alone for each lesson is a right pain in the arse.
The rule of thumb at university is that each hour lecture requires several hours of preparation.
Schools need to tailor lessons to the specific students. Uni is much easier in that respect - one size fits all.
I know I've done some fill in teaching. Never again.
You are underestimating how hard it is.
Of course there are harder jobs……….but it's not the breeze you think it is.

I'm as big a critic as anyone as regards teachers (for a start they should be degree qualified at 1st or 2:1 Masters level in the subject they teach AS A BARE MINIMUM), but this idea that they work so few days and hours is simply wrong.
A teacher's working week will I'm guessing be well over 45 hours. Probably approaching 60 hours. Some teachers on here might like to confirm or deny that.
They also don't get 13 weeks holiday.
Of course there will always be teachers who scam this. The problem of it being almost impossible to losing your job as a teacher is another issue entirely.
You may take some heat for this post of yours.

Danny Lennon wasn't stabbed in the back. He was given a fixed term contract which both he and the club honoured. He knew, as did everyone else, when that arrangement was due to expire.
Prudence is good.

Danny Lennon wasn't stabbed in the back. He was given a fixed term contract which both he and the club honoured. He knew, as did everyone else, when that arrangement was due to expire.
Prudence is good.