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You're one of those people that take pleasure in being right, eh? "I told you so" isn't helping right now. I liked the appointment of Murray - and most clubs in our position would've thought he was a reasonably good appointment. As it turns out, the lad doesn't have a clue about tactics and doesn't seem to inspire any confidence in his players. The sooner he walks, the better. Sadly he will see an opportunity to take his wages for nothing for 2 years - as with most managers now.

Have to disagree with you on this one Stuart. For me, a football "supporter" is not a "customer". The fans have a part to play, just as much as the players on the park, the managers, coaching staff, backroom staff, pie shop staff, ticket sellers, the board and everyone else involved with the club. Part of the problem with Scottish football is that too many people go, expecting to be entertained as a "customer". IMO, that's not a valid reason to support St Mirren. If you want to be a customer, go to the pub or get a BT Sport subscription. I support St Mirren because it’s my local team, I grew up supporting them. Many fans go to games home and away, week in week out – have a laugh with their mates but ultimately get behind the team as much as they can. Not everyone wants to go to football matches and sing, that’s fair enough – but considering yourself a customer is not the same as being a supporter. As a “supporter”, we should encourage the team – not discourage them. Taking the game at Livingston as an example, the players applauded the fans at full time and looked like they enjoyed the support they received. Despite small numbers, we created a decent enough atmosphere throughout the game. Compare that to one of our home games, where all you can hear is “F**KIN’ BOOO!” “F*CK SAKE CHEESY!”, “YER PISH ST MIRREN!”. It’s no wonder we get a reputation as the club that boo’s. Football is a small world, players talk, just like fans do. We can’t expect to attract good quality players, when those players know that they’re going to be on the receiving end of abuse from their own fans. You might see it as your right as a “customer” to complain about the “product” on offer – but that’s a very capitalist view of a football match. Now I’m not sure what you do for work – but let’s imagine you’re an office worker. Would you do a better job when people are being helpful and supportive, or when people are surrounding your desk, screaming abuse at you? Our away record is far better than our home record. IMO, the reason for this is obvious. Our team don’t enjoy playing at home, they don’t feel supported. Away from home our support is always much more vocal – the singing tends to drown out the abuse. Why don’t we try being positive and cheering the team on at home? You never know, that optimism could be the difference between a win and a loss…

Interesting post By the book, maybe. Can't see the SFA actually punishing them any more than they already have been. Tbh, (I might be in the minority here) I'd rather we just got on with the football than calling for further punishments/sanctions, the whole thing got very dull and quite poisonous. Any titles they won are now tainted, should just leave it at that.

Ye would think that having won the BTC... HMRC would be desperate to get any money they can from the club - especially if they're still claiming to trade as the same club with the same history.... Not sure how this would be viewed under trading laws etc. Expect Mr King will try to distance the newco from the oldco in the coming weeks. Remember that a few months back he was talking about bring the "oldco" back from the dead...

I heard he had a LOT of plastic surgery and changed his name to Craig Whyte. He is also immortal.

I do like a good conspiracy

In fairness, to counter the conspiracy theories - Miller mentioned he was 33 when he became the youngest manager in the league at St Mirren. Ian Murray is 34, a similar age to Miller when he was manager. I'm sure Miller made many mistakes back then - in the same way that Murray is making them now - might help to have someone in there who has "been there, done that". Of course it might not, and we've always got the option of getting rid of Ian, moving Miller to manager and bringing in KMcD as number 2.

Sounds like a story from the old Leigh Griffiths blog...

Pedro Chirivella from Liverpool. That lad has talent. Maybe Alex Miller can use his connections..

Well we paid Kieran Doran £1 a week iirc...

Reading between the lines - I believe this to be something of a rocket up the arse of Murray. We gave this young manager the opportunity to have total control over our football club, something that not many clubs would do. Whether right or wrong, it was a huge risk we took. That risk hasn't yet paid off. I reckon the BOD have now realised their mistake - forced the removal of Murray's "yes man" - remember that Spalding was previously at Stirling Uni and Dumbarton - hardly a man with experience. I believe this move will restrict the power Murray has at the club, no longer able to dictate training sessions, tactics etc as he pleases. If results don't improve, I'd expect Murray to depart fairly soon.

I think Murray has made enough choices tbf. About time it stopped being a 1 man show. Football is a team game and needs a team effort. Everyone being nice and saying yes to each other is not healthy for a football club. Well done the board.

Yes, but makes it all sound a bit rapey

Ian Murray spotted outside his local Key store, swigging a bottle of straight vodka

I'm pretty good at FM. Just putting that out there.

Jose? f**k aff, he's shite Could Eva be assistant manager? I would happily endorse that...

Least they're trying something different. Hope it works and it's good to see a bit of fight *trying tae remain positive*

How did this thread get from Jim Goodwin, to threats of hunting someone down and taking a tolly in their mouth? Sometimes this forum moves in strange ways

That is interesting. I'll bet there's more than a few players in Scotland playing and training in those kind of boots day in day out, not realising they ain't designed for that purpose... BPL players with Adidas/Nike/Puma sponsorship deals no doubt get new pairs a lot more frequently than our SPFL players do..

http://backpagefootball.com/modern-football-boots-and-injuries-an-unhappy-coincidence/101082/ http://www.squawka.com/news/full-list-players-who-have-suffered-an-anterior-cruciate-ligament-injury-in-2015/491565 Seen a few reports recently, linked 2 above. Seems there is some evidence to back it up. The manufacturers won't be quick to admit this, though.

Anyone else noticed that there's a lot more injuries this season? Not just at St Mirren - everywhere. I blame those daft boots they're all wearing. Nae support in them

Bankruptcy isn't as much of a deal as some make out. Many businessmen go "bankrupt" several times, Look no further than Donald Trump.... Still, there's something about to go down in Govan. Not too sure what.

Just cut it in half

Out: Conlan back to Burnley, Gow & Carswell released In: Would like to get Scott Allan on loan Attempt to sign Alan Forrest from Ayr - cracking wee player - younger brother of James (but better imo) Gibson from Dumbarton would be a brilliant signing also if Murray could use his connections.. Doubt we would get him though Other than that, anyone decent on a free agent!

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