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'Don't jail McGowan, Paul, Paul McGowan'.....

He plays a key role in our team and is someone with absolute determination to be a winner when he goes on the park. I remember Templeton playing for Hearts and getting the ball right on the touchline at halfway line of the west bank and before the ball had even got to him you could see that Goodwin was going to be the winner there. He slid in hard and screaming like a madman as wiped the ball out of the park and Templeton had sh*t it and felt the challenge as Goodie got up laughing and giving him a wee pat on the back. Brilliant.

Didn't Bone sell Lavety and possibly Gillies?

Cornell looks fairly decent and not bad shot stopper but I think it looks as if the communication between him and the defence isn't good enough and leads to a few hairy moments. At times he's also not commanding enough. Example last week where John Sutton scores from a cross that is 6 yards out. Step off your line and get a fist to that cross!

I thought about saying something about Thommo. Absolute legend, but I can't think of the words. I'm just going to rip the heid aff it instead.

Wee Nigel playing for the Fakes tonight. Still 1-0 up on the night (Tade) but with a 2-0 deficit to overturn. game on here for anyone interested.... http://www.trt.net.tr/tvcanli/canli.aspx?kanal=TV3

I remember exactly which guys you're talking about! haha. Spotted them a good few times and seem to remember them going tonto at opposition fans (possibly at Ibrox) whilst wearing said matching slacks/chinos and jumpers draped over there shoulders and tied in a knot.

By releasing players who's contracts had expired and presumably having had contract clauses for others still on the books regarding reduced terms if the club were relegated.

As mentioned on another thread. 10000 hours isn't setup to put money into the football club in the short term. So if we're no longer in a position to be able to run as a break-even business - they can't bail us out.

Is it not as simple as the potential for reduced Sky TV revenue meaning that it will be more difficult for St.Mirren FC to continue to be run as a break-even business (without at least some internal investment even short-term for us to adjust financially) - the CiC isn't setup to put money into the football club until years of debts are paid off so this presents the CiC with a problem.

Unless there are no other bids. Spin to frighten fans toward 10000hours bid. The current board are wanting their big pay day! 10000hours was always the vehicle for them getting that payday as no-one wanted to pay £2m for a football club. It dropped to £1.5m and now 10000hours has come short on that despite the unprecedented fan support that has come in this last week. Now the chips are down and the selling consortium can see the pound signs disappearing we will see if they are true to their words that they are interested in the best future for the club in which case they'd cut their losses.

Speculation was that he's on £1800 a week at Dundee and they're just getting him off the wage bill so there wouldn't be a transfer fee and it was pretty certain he was going to Killie.

Yeah that bit confused me too.

Agreed. I'd expect that'd be the long-term goal and a good position to be in. I wonder why we're not maximising this just now. It was certainly supposed to be the benefit of the new stadium. I can only assume that we either don't have the capable staff or ambition at the moment to drive that part of the business. Either that or there's simply not a market for the use of the stadium - which would be more of a concern. That is something we do need to understand and if that scenario occurs, does the CIC nominated person(s) who control the club simply remain in control of the club? ....but no longer with any duty of care to the CIC (which has folded?) I've signed up to see what else is to be said. Way too many questions just now so will need to wait for the opportunity to get answers.

I've read and read and read.... looking for answers and still not quite getting this. Individuals contributions = 300 x £120 pa = £36,000 pa Corporate contributions = 12 (?) x £10,000 pa = £120,000 pa Total = £156,000 pa going into the CIC right? So that's money going into the CIC, not the club - the CIC which has no other major contributions from the people leading it. This money is funding the purchase of the club and nothing else? So the CIC has a huge shortfall to the tune of £1,844,000 which has to be made up of either grants or loans (debt for the CIC (but the asset being the stadium is protected)). At the numbers stated above it'd take over 13 years to re-pay that money through the contributions into the CIC. What exactly are the Corporate contributors getting for the £10k? If the Corporate contributors are receiving the access to the facilities of the club (i.e. function suite, meals, etc.) in exchange for that fee then that is SMFC facilities (which are chargeable) being used with the proceeds going back to the CIC (to pay for their purchase of the club). No benefit to the club? We're losing out on potential revenue surely? Or does the £10k get a discount for the use of such facilities? (In which case there's still a cut going to the CIC?) If the £10k provides nothing other than a named associaton with the CIC then I'd be surprised if that value of association with that brand could be valued at £10k. I have a concern that all of the perceived benefits and increased revenues from marketing the club in this way will have no real positive financial impact for St.Mirren FC who I expect will be run in the exact same way as we are just now. All these things that are being talked about are things that the club should be doing already - but doing them now under this proposed plan will surely only be paying off the CIC rather than the club maximising there revenue potential?

I wouldn't disagree with that if we are unable to get anything better. Similar to the Alan Reid situation - certainly no world beater but could cover a number of positions and would certainly have been better than Mo Camara. If signing Vanzy again avoided another bad desperate signing like that then fair enough. Don't think he'd command too much money either given how his last couple of years have went.

Anyone know why Saints Aid hasn't taken place the last couple of years?

Every player makes mistakes. Jack Ross nearly losing the ball once yesterday barely merits mention. He immediately turned round to Cuthbert asking where the shout was. Great return to action from him and he's been great in his 1st season for Saints. I thought your original post was actually a wind-up.

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