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I remember asking this at the time in here as I was worried about that very scenario. Can’t say for sure, but I think someone said that SMISA would be entitled to buy at same cost. Not sure if that’s definite but would like to see that in black & white and any terms such as any exceptions and whether the value is adjusted with inflation.

Indeed. Any additional communication on this matter would only have continued to fuel the fire. There was nothing to be gained - as seen from the escalation post-apology. It appears to be one thing that the club has got right.

Pay the fine. Move on. Back the Chairman, and don’t bend over to the demands of the Old Firm scum and faux outrage. We can then get on with scrutinising the performance of our Chairman’s effectiveness with SMFC matters - business operations, finances, communication and results on the pitch - this is what should matter most rather than this storm in a tea cup.

The fact that JN is still around all these weeks later would suggest to me that they are expecting a rap on the knuckles and then we move on and put it behind us. Lesson learned. If there was all this supposed agitation behind the scenes then I can’t see why JN would be hanging around awaiting a SFA verdict.

It looks like the wing backs are just told to get the ball in and there’s no real quality. Goodwin and his staff must surely have stats to show how low a percentage of those balls are going into a good area? Then it’s an even smaller percentage for contesting the ball or getting an effort on target. Our move away from wingers seems to have unsurprisingly lost our ability to commit opposition defences or hit the bye line. It’s only when you pull players out of position that you have a chance to create a real chance of quality. It’s just not happening and the very few occasions that something is landing with the strikers they’re snatching at it. It’s not surprising and the strikers rarely seem to have any chance to get in behind a defence. We just seem so limited and seem to attack in hope rather than with any effective plan.

In fairness, there’s arguably been a lot of unprofessionalism from club/board over recent months - in terms of business operations, decision making and mistakes of the football club - but most/all of it has been given a pass, without even an apology. Much if it put down to teething problems, transition, etc. Here, we have an example of someone new simply saying something stupid. He has apologised but now there’s apparently no leeway or not understanding for mistakes? Just seems a bit strange if you ask me.

As usual, more questions than answers. Was there any dialogue to say that we wouldn’t expect 487 to be enough based on our usual ticket sales? Did we highlight during the week that we were looking like selling out the allocation? Did the club ask for more tickets? Why did Dundee Utd get an initial allocation of 900 from Hearts then an additional 400, yet we can get neither the same amount of tickets, nor an additional allocation? It feels like the people at our club are all too happy just to take whatever is given to us and nobody can be bothered to ask or answer any of the basic questions.

I can’t think of any games where our results haven’t been a fair reflection of the games this season. In saying that, there’s been a good number of games where we’ve had enough of the play to be in a position to win the game but we’ve just not done enough in the final 3rd (today) or lost goals despite being comfortable for most of the match (Motherwell away). I don’t think we’ve robbed a result from anyone this season. Would easily say that we dropped 2 points for in each of the matches away to Dundee, Motherwell and St.Johnstone now. Win even 2 of those and we’re sitting 5th. Win all 3 and we’re 4th. We can’t keep letting points slip or it’ll be another missed chance for top 6.

I know the club has foodbank collections occasionally but see no reason why they couldn’t do it every game. In liverpool both sides of the red/blue divide have combined to market ‘fans supporting foodbanks’ and have big collections at Anfield/Goodison each week.

One of the crazy things that seems to go unmentioned is that we’ve done ourselves out of income by reducing family stand season tickets price. If fans were paying for their season tickets and not turning up for old firm games then that’s up to them. Now we’ve created a situation where if we’re ever to reverse it, it will take a price hike in family season tickets to get back to the same level. So after the increased policing and other costs, the reduction in season ticket cost, and whatever else - how much are we actually making? That’s before we even get into our decreased chances of getting a result in the match by flooding the place with opposition fans. If the club don’t do something to address this it only goes one way. It’s not pleasant to be a home fan at these games and the numbers attending the remaining 2 home stands will only go down. Then we’re left with 1 stand??? Personally I think they should be given W6/W7 as a middle ground and the club should consult in an adult manner with the excellent fans who sit in that area.

Stupid comments from someone who is supposed to be an intelligent business figure. The casual use of the word *** and similar need to be eradicated from our society. Any chance of this blowing over was gone the second that he apologised. Sevco fans were never going to accept it and it simply gave more air to the story. Now it’s just a matter of time. It would be good to think that it wasn’t just faux victimhood and that Rangers actually did want to stand up to sectarianism, but we know the game. That’s perhaps the saddest thing about all this. Final thought is that I don’t like to see Kibble sticking the boot in. Another example of why I don’t like that arrangement - they will always have to put Kibbles interests first, not St. Mirren’s. We’re in this mini-crisis and they’re issuing statements separate to the club. Not helpful and not a good look.

Has any resident statto got % win rate for Goodwin vs our other top flight managers ?

Depends on a lot of results over the last 2 round of fixtures for the seedings so hard to predict. We currently sit in a seeding position but I suspect we will end up needing a point from the Denmark game to be seeded in the end. (If we manage to secure 2nd place that is) There’s a table here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_–_UEFA_Second_Round

If that’s the situation with Royal Mail then I guess it’s understandable to some extent. What is really required is for clubs to work together to find solutions that suit fans. There’s surely no reason that Saints fans couldn’t have purchased digital tickets from the Hibs and Ross County ticket platforms, similar to the way we were able to for Livi tickets. Likewise, St.Mirren ticket platform should have sold to Aberdeen fans rather than shipping them a load of tickets.

Fair comment. There does seem to be a particular resentment toward Livi rippin the pash on pricing. It does seem as if every club (us included) seem to have bumped pricing by roughly 10% since pre-Covid.

Thanks to the SLO for a more detailed update than that issued by the club. Would love to know what the issue with postal service is. Is it just that the club can’t organise themselves enough to actually post tickets? It wasn’t previously a problem. Why now?

IMPORTANT INFO Ross County Tickets Due to previous issues with postal service, tickets will NOT be posted out by St. Mirren for this away match The ticket office is open tonight and next Thursday for those who are working during the day. The ticket prices as follows: Adult £25 Concession* £10 U18s £5 * - Over 65, 18-21 year-olds, wheelchair & ambulant - PA ticket is free of charge. The Ticket Office hours for the remainder of the week are as follows: Thu 7th Oct 10:00 to 14:00 and 17:00 to 20:00 Fri 8th Oct 10:00 to 14:00 Sat 9th Oct CLOSED Sun 10th Oct CLOSED St Mirren Ticket Office Tel: (0141) 840-6130. St Mirren Ticket Office E-Mail: [email protected]

No real surprise in the decision. Given we had already decided to take the bigot shilling, we’re not going to reverse it. I genuinely don’t know why they’re dancing round the issue when it’s already clear as day. It creates a horrible environment for home fans. Giving them 1 stand and allowing for the inevitable OF fans that manage to acquire tickets for home stands is way better. At least that means that the scumbags have to tor the line and keep their trap shut rather than effectively taking over the stadium. Any daft proposal to have family groups of opposition fans in our own family stand is - let’s face it - only to try and find some halfway house to solving the OF question. I wouldn’t want the bigots in next to our fans. I’m also pretty certain that when St. Johnstone, Aberdeen, Motherwell, etc. come to town, they want to be in their own end.

The Kibble, of course, can use their veto so in effect have the power to reject any Smisa nominated appointment. Doesn’t take much to join the dots as to the change of process happening to coincide with the 2020 proposal.

Our last ticket system was locked down if I remember to have some logic around not allowing new registrations for old firm games or such? It’ll be interesting to see if the new system can implement the same now that the customer base is at least partially populated.

Incidentally, it looks like Aberdeen have went to the trouble of either integrating with, or importing/replicating our seating map onto their ticket platform. This is allowing them to sell these tickets online to their fans. It’s not clear whether this is paper tickets that will be posted out of digital tickets. Either way, it’s miles ahead of our dealing with away game tickets judging by last week. https://tickets.afc.co.uk/en-GB/categories/away games

I would reckon from past experience that there’s a fair chance Hibs may sell tickets on match day. There might be a late announcement from Saints to that effect. It’s happened before and if it happens again this time it will be a kick in the teeth for fans who have been told that the only way to get a ticket is to visit the SMFC ticket office. I guess we’ll know by Saturday but it’ll be too late or too much hassle either way for many people.

You’re clearly a very decent Buddie trying to offer solutions to this. It really shouldn’t be up to fans doing favours like this to try and coordinate ticket sales. The club needs to sort itself out.

Correct. This is why some are so short sighted in defending continual failures as simply teething issues. These are mounting up. You’ve got a crazy situation of someone saying that sub-standard strips are fine and shouldn’t be discounted - we should give the club full price so they don’t lose out financially. Only to then see the club literally lose out financially in multiple other circumstances by not managing the basics such as tickets and crowds. It’s depressing.

We previously were able to purchase away tickets on the SMFC ticket platform and have them posted out. That was a much criticised ticket platform but at least there was a process there that worked (except for some technical issues on specific browsers/devices). I guess the main question is why have we now regressed? Can the new ticket platform not handle away ticket sales? Or have SMFC just not bothered to make tickets available via that route? Do we not have staff trained to operate sales via the online system? If not, do the club not realise that this could help alleviate pressure and allow them to work more efficiently, reduce phone calls, answer the phone when it does go, and ultimately sell more tickets and have a happier customer base. How was this process lost in transition from one season to the next? Did the club not realise what the previous staff were actually handling as part of the job?