Kirkie

No, I have absolutely no association with Kibble. I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't provide the text of the trust deed. Charities are obliged to give a copy of their governing document and/or accounts to anyone that asks for them. You don't even need to give them a reason for asking although they are entitled to charge a reasonable fee for provision. However, in the case of a multi-million pound charity it would seem slightly churlish of them to charge! I'm not sure what would be considered a reasonable time for them to comply with the request.

Apologies. You said that you were interested in seeing the objects (aims) of the charity so I thought it might be helpful for you to have a link to them. Given that it is the social enterprise that is cited as the party that SMISA are dealing with, I assume that it is not actually the charity constituted by trust but rather a company limited by guarantee which is constituted by memorandum and articles of association. You can get that off the Companies House website if you wish but if you can't be bothered looking, I can tell you that the objects of the company are the same as those stated on the OSCR website that I linked.

This might help ... https://www.oscr.org.uk/about-charities/search-the-register/charity-details?number=10048 The subsidiary charity, Kibble Education and Care Centre, has the same objects and charitable purposes. As does Kibbleworks.

It would only be libelous (defamation in Scotland) if it's not true ...

Kibble appears to comprise three registered charities: - Kibble School (Miss Elizabeth Kibbles Trust) which is constituted via a Deed of Trust. This is the parent charity for the other two charities. - Kibble Education and Care Centre which is also a company limited by guarantee. - Kibbleworks which is a company limited by guarantee and is a small part of the overall operation in revenue terms. They may have other non-charitable trading companies. Without commenting on the merits of the proposal to acquire shares, none of that in and of itself represents a cause for concern. These are slightly complex but perfectly normal governance arrangements for larger charities.

None. No messages. No calls. Not heavily used by the look of things!

Mobile picked up from a puddle in the away stand at Hamilton after the game today. Not locked but no obvious contact info for the owner. If anyone recognises it, let me know & I can arrange to return.

How about 3.17 into this as posted earlier? Don't look to be trying to me ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/45316797

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/45316797 Are we now in the realms of openly downing tools to get rid of the manager? From about 3:17 this is shocking from McGinn and Magennis and it wasn't an isolated incident. At least Magennis makes a half-hearted late run here to track the Livingston player who strolls past him, McGinn does nothing. Stubbs' signings might be genuinely rubbish or they could be young boys struggling to find their feet, but regardless, you would expect the team captain (and fans' hero) to at least try to set an example and give them a hand. To then openly criticise them, and by implication, the manager in the press is hugely unhelpful and disruptive.

Nah, I just used your post as a platform for my relatively mild gripe at having to shell out an extra £115 on account of a 13th birthday falling a few days before the renewals open. Mind you, if the club are really setting their pricing age bands on the basis that 13 year olds have a new found opportunity to earn a few quid on a paper round, that seems a tad mean spirited!

It's my (soon to be) 13 year old that I feel sorry for. Or rather, I feel sorry for myself since it's me that's paying. I'm not clear on the logic behind charging a 13 year old £115 more than a 12 year old. His ability to earn an income hasn't changed! Otherwise the pricing structure looks very reasonable.

Agree wholeheartedly. Couldn't hear anything from the crowd because of the ridiculous level of the music coming from the PA system. It was the same pre-match on Saturday. This seems to have become a feature of modern football stadiums. The crowd should create the atmosphere. Stuff coming over the PA will not.

Think you can watch it on SFA Facebook or Youtube.

My folks are still down the road on the corner of Rannoch! Would be good to catch up with you both, although I'm not sure about inviting any gloating Thistle fans along - too painful! I'll tell him you were both asking for him though!

Yup. You & John Cameron (?) a couple of years ahead of me, making a grand total of 3 St Mirren fans!

Born in Glasgow, first few years in Scotstoun then to Bearsden. My dad would take us to various grounds other than Ibrox or Parkhead - Boghead, Firhill, Love St, Hampden! My older brother was an 80s Aberdeen fan (now supports Thistle) & my younger brother followed him as a Dons fan. For reasons that I can't really explain (always supported the underdog, liked our strip, loved Love St????) I supported the Saints, probably from about 1979/80. Persuaded my wife to move to Paisley when we got married (much cheaper than anywhere we looked in Glasgow!) and was within walking distance of Love St for four years. Moved to Kirkintilloch about 16 years ago and been there ever since. My 11 year old is now reliving my youth as the only St Mirren fan that he knows - proudly wears his Saints kits in the midst of Rangers, Celtic, Chelsea, Real Madrid, etc. I mostly want us to win these days for his sake to partially assuage the guilt of having inflicted the past three years of misery on him.

And the standard of production is dreadful. Grainy footage, and camera work that is presumably meant to be clever as it zooms in on the ball as the play is ongoing. Maybe they're trying to spare us having to watch the sub-standard football on show, but I tuned in to watch the game, not lengthy close ups of management teams, chairmen/CEOs, fans or even players while the ball is in play.

Er...perhaps in general his tactics were defensive, but to use the league cup final as an example is bizarre. We lost because we went chasing the game, piling men forward when Rangers were down to 9 men and leaving ourselves totally exposed to the counter attack. It was anything but defensive!

...and using my powers of deduction, I must have been one of the other two!

Polis/security box

But I like my ST seat at the north end of the Main Stand! Well, when I say "like", I mean that it's better than most of the remaining unreserved seats if I was shunted to the other end. It also might be an issue that you've only got two relatively small sections at each end of the Main Stand before the "premium", slightly padded seating starts. I buy a ST for me and my boy purely for convenience so that I don't need to buy tickets for every game. If that was for unreserved seating, I'd be happy enough since there would generally be plenty reasonable seats to go around, particularly if you pitch up before 5 to 3! As it is, there are very few seats around me that aren't reserved for ST holders so on the odd occasion that a mate comes along, it's difficult to get seats together. I think unreserved seating would help the atmosphere and would make it more attractive for people to bring mates along. The main thing that would help though is a decent team on the pitch.

My son is going because it gets him out of swimming training! On a Saturday afternoon, he might have found something more enjoyable to do!!

His poor kicking repeatedly put us back under pressure last night, even in the first half. I thought at the time he should have done better with the initial shot before the goal and the highlights confirm that. Murray reckoned it was a great save though. I thought Ridgers was doing ok before Langfield came and was unlucky to be dropped.

I wasn't impressed with Conlan in pre-season. However, I thought he got better as the game wore on against Dumbarton and looked ok against Morton until the sending off. Dummett looked similarly poor in his early games for us, admittedly against better opposition.