Lord Pityme Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Bigotry is not removed in taking the stand from them, another point you can't grasp. Would likely just mean we had 100s of the idiots in with home stands as we've seen before. You are again being idealistic, if you genuinely think it's that easy and if we did that deal in run of the mill Wednesday night games we would still get over 5,000 fans every time you're delusional. Sorry to ask Baz, but as our resident Statto, surely you have the evidence to back up what every potential saints fan may do? #familystandpromo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Sorry to ask Baz, but as our resident Statto, surely you have the evidence to back up what every potential saints fan may do? #familystandpromo Are you asking me for an impossibility? The same logic applies to your claim that we can take 5,000 to every game if we did the same deal as the Dundee game. Common sense suggests otherwise. it I have no doubt we could influence the crowds slightly but there is a fine balance, I always find it funny when joe bloggs thinks they have better business acumen than club directors. If it was so simple to lower prices, bring in much bigger crowds and still generate the same/ more income, every club would do it. I’ve shown clearly that attendances fluctuate based on importance of fixture, feel free to share your evidence that st Mirren home crowds would always be over 5,000 with lower ticket prices and deals and that would be financially viable? Edited April 12, 2019 by bazil85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Are you asking me for an impossibility? The same logic applies to your claim that we can take 5,000 to every game if we did the same deal as the Dundee game. Common sense suggests otherwise. it I have no doubt we could influence the crowds slightly but there is a fine balance, I always find it funny when joe bloggs thinks they have better business acumen than club directors. If it was so simple to lower prices, bring in much bigger crowds and still generate the same/ more income, every club would do it. I’ve shown clearly that attendances fluctuate based on importance of fixture, feel free to share your evidence that st Mirren home crowds would always be over 5,000 with lower ticket prices and deals and that would be financially viable? But you specialise in fabricated figures to "prove" impossibilities![emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said: But you specialise in fabricated figures to "prove" impossibilities! Average crowd numbers - not fabricated Record season ticket sales at stadium - not fabricated Kilmarnock away crowd - not fabricated Celtic minimum home crowd - not fabricated Two Motherwell games and St Johnstone game, no note of home/ away split. Figures estimated based on reserved assumptions Ticket prices and expenses, also estimated again based on massively reserved assumptions. Good effort, I would ask you where I have 'fabricated' but you'll avoid the question like you do with every question that proves you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, bazil85 said: Bigotry is not removed in taking the stand from them, another point you can't grasp. And another point he wasn't trying to make. Are you incapable of reading ANYTHING properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 And another point he wasn't trying to make. Are you incapable of reading ANYTHING properly?I know the answer to that one![emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, oaksoft said: And another point he wasn't trying to make. Are you incapable of reading ANYTHING properly? Linking us giving an extra stand to us pandering to bigotry is incorrect. Regardless of how many tickets we give them, the problem remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Linking us giving an extra stand to us pandering to bigotry is incorrect. Regardless of how many tickets we give them, the problem remains. Surely less away fans reduces the scale of the problem?Yet another good point you choose to ignore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Surely less away fans reduces the scale of the problem? Yet another good point you choose to ignore! Really? It might do... I would say the fact we have had instances of groups of bigot brother fans in the home stands in previous years (I remember well, a number of occasions them getting chucked out) the problem isn't greatly reduced, there is an argument that given them an extra stand away from home fans actually mitigates it. Do you know the difference between 'ignoring' and disagreeing with a point? Doesn't seem like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Really? It might do... I would say the fact we have had instances of groups of bigot brother fans in the home stands in previous years (I remember well, a number of occasions them getting chucked out) the problem isn't greatly reduced, there is an argument that given them an extra stand away from home fans actually mitigates it. Do you know the difference between 'ignoring' and disagreeing with a point? Doesn't seem like it. When it comes to your fabricated drivel, I tend to do both if possible![emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said: When it comes to your fabricated drivel, I tend to do both if possible! I’ll ask again, point out where I have fabricated? There’s a clear pattern here and there has been for some time. You claim a lie regarding something I’ve wrote. I call you out on it, you avoid backing up your claim (because you can’t) clear for all to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 I’ll ask again, point out where I have fabricated? There’s a clear pattern here and there has been for some time. You claim a lie regarding something I’ve wrote. I call you out on it, you avoid backing up your claim (because you can’t) clear for all to see [emoji3]Know why I don't quote you?It means re-reading your shite which was usually hard enough to trawl through in the first place.I'm honestly not that desperate to prove a point!Unlike you... Sheer desperation in every post... Every meandering lie filled fabricated thread![emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Baz still be sayin " yeah we've got record crowds(not true) this season, now we arent hosting the enormous away support of Brechin, Dumbarton, ICT, QoS etc.. etc.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Know why I don't quote you? It means re-reading your shite which was usually hard enough to trawl through in the first place. I'm honestly not that desperate to prove a point! Unlike you... Sheer desperation in every post... Every meandering lie filled fabricated thread! That you telling a wee fib there? You’ve spent hours responding to me yet you won’t look out a post that proves i have lied? Utter nonsense, found out. The posts don’t exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Baz still be sayin " yeah we've got record crowds(not true) this season, now we arent hosting the enormous away support of Brechin, Dumbarton, ICT, QoS etc.. etc.." Yes it is true, these are the highest average crowds over a season we’ve had at this stadium since it opened. Or are you saying the below figures relating to top flight seasons are incorrect? 2018/19 (this season): 5,295 2014/15: 3,906 2013/14: 4,511 2012/13: 4,389 2011/12: 4,493 2010/11: 4,450 2009/10: 4,414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yes it is true, these are the highest average crowds over a season we’ve had at this stadium since it opened. Or are you saying the below figures relating to top flight seasons are incorrect? 2018/19 (this season): 5,295 2014/15: 3,906 2013/14: 4,511 2012/13: 4,389 2011/12: 4,493 2010/11: 4,450 2009/10: 4,414What were the HOME crowds in each season? [emoji15] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 That you telling a wee fib there? You’ve spent hours responding to me yet you won’t look out a post that proves i have lied? Utter nonsense, found out. The posts don’t exist No lie... Look at my view of your lie and error strewn posts!More fool me... It's bad enough opening them up once just to laugh or shake my head in disbelief! [emoji15] [emoji15] [emoji15] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: What were the HOME crowds in each season? Not disclosed. Do you genuinely think they’re lower this season than all the other ones or are you just desperately trying to find a new corner? before your answer please remember to consider GLS has literally said ‘this year has seen a record number of season tickets sold since we moved to the new stadium’ and my comparison on home fans between the Celtic and Killie game showing there was no significant drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: No lie... Look at my view of your lie and error strewn posts! More fool me... It's bad enough opening them up once just to laugh or shake my head in disbelief! Again proving you can’t provide any evidence I have contradicted or fabricated anything. Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Again proving you can’t provide any evidence I have contradicted or fabricated anything. Cool I could easily prove it if I had any desire to trawl through your Jackanori omnibus! [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Not disclosed. Do you genuinely think they’re lower this season than all the other ones or are you just desperately trying to find a new corner? before your answer please remember to consider GLS has literally said ‘this year has seen a record number of season tickets sold since we moved to the new stadium’ and my comparison on home fans between the Celtic and Killie game showing there was no significant drop. Not disclosed.So basically, you have NO way to prove your point... Yet once again, you present your belief as fact and present meaningless stats as "evidence"!Ahhhh... But GLS said!Oh aye... The guy you said makes mistakes![emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: I could easily prove it if I had any desire to trawl through your Jackanori omnibus! Sure you could...You'll spend hours saying you can prove something that isn't there but not take the five minutes it must take to find a fabrication if there is indeed so many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Not disclosed. Do you genuinely think they’re lower this season than all the other ones or are you just desperately trying to find a new corner? before your answer please remember to consider GLS has literally said ‘this year has seen a record number of season tickets sold since we moved to the new stadium’ and my comparison on home fans between the Celtic and Killie game showing there was no significant drop. So your comparing home fans at the Killie and Celtic matches proves something but we can't count home fans v Dundee as that was an important match?[emoji15] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, BuddieinEK said: Not disclosed. So basically, you have NO way to prove your point... Yet once again, you present your belief as fact and present meaningless stats as "evidence"! Ahhhh... But GLS said! Oh aye... The guy you said makes mistakes! You like Bud the baker earlier are asking for an impossibility. It isn't my fault the figures aren't available but applying a little common sense will tell us all evidence points to home crowds being up. Are you saying GLS has lied in saying season tickets are at record high numbers? Evidence? But you have fallen into my trap I'm afraid. You have now got an impossibility for your point 1. Having to admit home crowds are up 2. Saying it's because away crowds are up... I wonder why away crowds might be up... Maybe something to do with the decision to give two stands proving the financial benefit in doing so. thanks for playing The crowd numbers being 784 up on average on the second closest season are meaningless!? hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 You like Bud the baker earlier are asking for an impossibility. It isn't my fault the figures aren't available but applying a little common sense will tell us all evidence points to home crowds being up. Are you saying GLS has lied in saying season tickets are at record high numbers? Evidence? But you have fallen into my trap I'm afraid. You have now got an impossibility for your point 1. Having to admit home crowds are up 2. Saying it's because away crowds are up... I wonder why away crowds might be up... Maybe something to do with the decision to give two stands proving the financial benefit in doing so. thanks for playing The crowd numbers being 784 up on average on the second closest season are meaningless!? hahahahahahaI haven't said anything of the such mr twisty!I asked a few questions.You are so needy! [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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