shull Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 Shaming our Country once again. Removing the Two sectarian Clubs would be a start in stopping this shite. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4694446/glasgow-republican-march-loyalist-protesters-bottles-flares-police/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 It's a difficult one. The right of free assembly is fundamental in a democracy even if we disagree with the aims of those assembled. Attacking such a group is illegal and should be prevented. These rights and responsibilities remain whatever the purpose of this or any other march. In my case, I'm happy for Ireland both North and South to determine their future, whether this be united or separate but by political means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 5 hours ago, St.Ricky said: These rights and responsibilities remain whatever the purpose of this or any other march. In my case, I'm happy for Ireland both North and South to determine their future, whether this be united or separate but by political means. Have their marches over there, no place for it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, pod said: Have their marches over there, no place for it here. I recall marches supporting Nelson Mandela in Scotland. We live in an interconnected world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: I recall marches supporting Nelson Mandela in Scotland. We live in an interconnected world. Was that likely to cause problems on our streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 They are both a shower of C***s, piss off over to Ireland and take the most unwanted import in history back with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 I am actually very very surprised that Celtic/Sevco don't offer their Stadiums to the Marchers and their Supporters for a fee and admission money. Both Clubs have no qualms allowing scum into their Arenas for football matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, pod said: Was that likely to cause problems on our streets. There was opposition to it. Most of that has been forgotten as time has gone past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, thomsons dropped it said: They are both a shower of C***s, piss off over to Ireland and take the most unwanted import in history back with you. Problem is that we exported the problem to Ireland in the first place and nourished it over there when it suited "our" interests. Had Ireland not been invaded and planted then I would be in full agreement with you. It's a bit like the argument on slavery. We need to acknowledge our part in it before we can move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 hours ago, shull said: Shaming our Country once again. Removing the Two sectarian Clubs would be a start in stopping this shite. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4694446/glasgow-republican-march-loyalist-protesters-bottles-flares-police/ I take it you know personally all those who took part in the affray? Otherwise you wouldn't know if they supported one side or the other. Free speech is an important part of our democratic process. Using this as another excuse to attack the clubs is ridiculous. I want rid of them as much as anyone but I won't use any old incident to attack them. You are a sad individual who needs to look inward to see bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 I took no part and I am not to blame for slavery. And I am sure nobody on this Forum can be blamed for slavery. Celtic and Sevco fans can be blamed for disgracing.. SCOTTISH FOOTBALL SCOTLAND BRITAIN NORTHERN IRELAND EIRE. Absolute fecking scum as are their football clubs. I love having some free speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Another 14 marches organised in Glasgow this month. Whoopee. It will soon be a no go zone for the ordinary/general public. Edited September 8, 2019 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, St.Ricky said: Problem is that we exported the problem to Ireland in the first place and nourished it over there when it suited "our" interests. Had Ireland not been invaded and planted then I would be in full agreement with you. It's a bit like the argument on slavery. We need to acknowledge our part in it before we can move on. Repeat. We caused the problem in the first place and it has come back to bite us on the bum. Accept that and move on I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, St.Ricky said: Repeat. We caused the problem in the first place and it has come back to bite us on the bum. Accept that and move on I say. Who's we. . Are you taking some responsibility for it. Edited September 9, 2019 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 Our Scottish Gov has to intervene here. We all know what these marches are, they are simply down to provocation. Who gives a feck what happened hundreds of years ago. SNPs keen to stop us drinking, using petrol and all having windmills yet happily allow this on our streets...…….. Ban them - simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 hours ago, St.Ricky said: Problem is that we exported the problem to Ireland in the first place and nourished it over there when it suited "our" interests. Had Ireland not been invaded and planted then I would be in full agreement with you. It's a bit like the argument on slavery. We need to acknowledge our part in it before we can move on. Ricky- the English arranged this , yet them seem to be unscathed...……... Why is this an issue now ? Its consigned to history. That's where it belongs not out our streets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, pod said: Who's we. . Are you taking some responsibility for it. I do. Our past UK establishment took us into this. As such our, currently my, government carry responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DougJamie said: Ricky- the English arranged this , yet them seem to be unscathed...……... Why is this an issue now ? Its consigned to history. That's where it belongs not out our streets Couldn't agree more but it wasn't always so as attacks in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Brighton showed. Also agree that this belongs in the past but can't see that until there is one country on the island of Ireland. In other words.. As it was before we, the Brits got there and decided to divide and rule. However.. This could and should only be brought about by the people who live and work there voting for that outcome. Until then and even after for years is likely to continue. I do not support armed struggle by any sides in the dispute. Dialogue and compromise is needed. The present agreement supports the status quo until the majority vote otherwise. Brexit is of course stirring things up. Edited September 9, 2019 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: I do. Our past UK establishment took us into this. As such our, currently my, government carry responsibility. Who the f**k wants to live in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, pod said: Who the f**k wants to live in the past. The Irish and West of Scotland obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, pod said: Who's we. . Are you taking some responsibility for it. Aye, it’s all your fault 😛 3 hours ago, DougJamie said: Our Scottish Gov has to intervene here. We all know what these marches are, they are simply down to provocation. Who gives a feck what happened hundreds of years ago. SNPs keen to stop us drinking, using petrol and all having windmills yet happily allow this on our streets...…….. Ban them - simple The problem is that these things are decided at Council level - the government (Scottish or UK) is not responsible for this. The other problem is the “free speech” debate. I agree that these marches are filled with hate and abuse, but banning them could lead to random gatherings which could cause more trouble. By having councils “allowing” these, in theory it should allow for arranging the police presence to minimise problems (not that it’s been working to full effect recently). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, DougJamie said: The Irish and Ricky obviously Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, pod said: Agree. Lol. Not me sir. But.. Britain and in particular, Scotland is currently reaping what it sowed through the plantation. The weight of history is not in the British or Scottish side in this. Scots protestants happily took over land and jobs ahead of the local indigenous population at the behest of the UK government who set out to have the North have a protestant/ unionist majority. But.. I do wish we could just get on with letting the Irish sort out Ireland. As for bigotry or sectarianism. I have no time for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Cornwall_Saint said: Aye, it’s all your fault 😛 The problem is that these things are decided at Council level - the government (Scottish or UK) is not responsible for this. The other problem is the “free speech” debate. I agree that these marches are filled with hate and abuse, but banning them could lead to random gatherings which could cause more trouble. By having councils “allowing” these, in theory it should allow for arranging the police presence to minimise problems (not that it’s been working to full effect recently). Last time I looked the SNP ran GCC Belfast has banned Orange walks ? And the others are peaceful. Here is just a free for all, and Shull for once is right, its just about the OF nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 9, 2019 Report Share Posted September 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Last time I looked the SNP ran GCC Belfast has banned Orange walks ? And the others are peaceful. Here is just a free for all, and Shull for once is right, its just about the OF nothing else. Let the Irish sort out Ireland. Should they wish then they can have the OF. Dublin for Celtic perhaps and Belfast for The Rangers. Would help Shull fill in another piece of his jigsaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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