St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, oaksoft said: Since when did the word "popular" start meaning "correct"? Ah... You want more. OK but do try googling it. I didn't say it had just been invented. What I intended to indicate my surprise that someone like yourself hadn't come across the phrase, particularly since it had been widely used in the media over the past day or so. It's also a phrase that I came across often in work in South Africa.. A country with a long history of racism. As you can imagine, this is a sensitive subject there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, pozbaird said: You just fcuking said it was racist a few posts ago. Is it or isn’t it. Step away from the wine. It's a nothing comment you made but you make it more than that by your overreaction. You should know it'll be tomorrows news.................if you let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, pozbaird said: You just fcuking said it was racist a few posts ago. Is it or isn’t it. No Poza. I said that it is an example of unconscious racism not that you are a racist. I'm sure I must have said something similar at some point but I am not racist nor do I think you are. What Lord thinks is up to Lord to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Ah... You want more. OK but do try googling it. I didn't say it had just been invented. What I intended to indicate my surprise that someone like yourself hadn't come across the phrase, particularly since it had been widely used in the media over the past day or so. It's also a phrase that I came across often in work in South Africa.. A country with a long history of racism. As you can imagine, this is a sensitive subject there. You have no idea about racism. You have no idea about the genuine discrimination affecting millions of people. When you left wing PC nutters jump all over peoples words you exacerbate the problem because when you casually throw the word "racist" around you force moderate people into more extreme and hardened positions thus further entrenching discriminatory views. You and PC obssessives like you are part and parcel of the problem. Are you intelligent enough to understand this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, oaksoft said: You have no idea about racism. You have no idea about the genuine discrimination affecting millions of people. When you left wing PC nutters jump all over peoples words you exacerbate the problem because when you casually throw the word "racist" around you force moderate people into more extreme and hardened positions thus further entrenching discriminatory views. You and PC obssessives like you are part and parcel of the problem. Are you intelligent enough to understand this point? Of course he is, he "Googled" it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: You have no idea about racism. You have no idea about the genuine discrimination affecting millions of people. When you left wing PC nutters jump all over peoples words you exacerbate the problem because when you casually throw the word "racist" around you force moderate people into more extreme and hardened positions thus further entrenching discriminatory views. You and PC obssessives like you are part and parcel of the problem. Are you intelligent enough to understand this point? What do you know about me Oak? Clearly not a løt. Edited June 22, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: No Poza. I said that it is an example of unconscious racism not that you are a racist. I'm sure I must have said something similar at some point but I am not racist nor do I think you are. What Lord thinks is up to Lord to explain. There is no such thing as "unconscious racism". You can quote as many teitter posts as you like where people are using that phrase but it is quite simply wrong. There is no such thing as unconscious racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: What do you know about me Oak? I know that your posts on this forum indicate that you appear to have no ability to think through and argue anything logically regarding racism. Edited June 22, 2018 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: There is no such thing as "unconscious racism". You can quote as many teitter posts as you like where people are using that phrase but it is quite simply wrong. There is no such thing as unconscious racism. Have it as you wish.. doesn't make you right but if it let's you feel better then fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, oaksoft said: I know that your posts on this forum indicate that you appear to have no ability to think through and argue anything logically regarding racism. Please elucidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Of course he is, he "Googled" it. He should maybe stop Googling crap, engage his brain and think for himself. I would respect him more and we might even have a decent debate. You don't try to win debates by shouting "google it" at your opponent, Unless you have limited intelligence of course........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Strange.. I gave you credit for your approach. You give insults and no arguments. Example: https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2015/jul/08/how-can-we-fix-unconscious-racism All I can suggest is that you research the topic. By the way.. I once had to take over a job from a colleague in South Africa who had been accused of being racist and she was black (the formal categorisation in SA) Edited June 22, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oaksoft said: He should maybe stop Googling crap, engage his brain and think for himself. I would respect him more and we might even have a decent debate. You don't try to win debates by shouting "google it" at your opponent, Unless you have limited intelligence of course........ I just "Googled" you..................it said "arsehole"...................sometimes Google is ok. Edited June 22, 2018 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Have it as you wish.. doesn't make you right but if it let's you feel better then fine. Sigh. A wee hint. If you want to have your opinions respected you need to do a lot more than either tell tour opponent to "google it" or respond as above. It betrays that your views have as much intellectual depth as Stuart Dickson's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Please elucidate. A man of your age and experience should not have to desperately scramble around Google in order to have an intellectual debate about racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperately Seeking Susans Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Sigh. A wee hint. If you want to have your opinions respected you need to do a lot more than either tell tour opponent to "google it" or respond as above. It betrays that your views have as much intellectual depth as Stuart Dickson's. Away to your bed an geez peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just now, oaksoft said: A man of your age and experience should not have to desperately scramble around Google in order to have an intellectual debate about racism. I don't. It was only as an obligement to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Strange.. I gave you credit for your approach. You give insults and no arguments. Example: https://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2015/jul/08/how-can-we-fix-unconscious-racism All I can suggest is that you research the topic. By the way.. I once had to take over a job from a colleague in South Africa who had been accused of being racist and she was black (the formal categorisation in SA) FFS stop directing me to journalists articles and argue your case using your own words. I am not doing your job for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Desperately Seeking Susans said: Away to your bed an geez peace. Have you not got ex-Celtic Israeli footballers to abuse? I am surprised you have the time to post on here. Off you pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Strange.. I gave you credit for your approach. Really? Where exactly did you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) In an earlier post where I indicated that I was surprised. Racism can be conscious or unconscious. People with no racist views can without meaning harm or offence, do so through unconscious racism. A term you suggested was made up. It's not. It's well established. I have also encountered conscious racism w&ere the people involved would happily, even proudly admit or assert their racist identity. I might inadvertently been guilty of the former but I hope never the latter or I would be guilty of insulting friends of mine who are brown, black or white. Purely as a footnote. Last season I took guests from Egypt, Zimbabwe and Senegal to games at St Mirren Park. Each a different shade to me. Edited June 22, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Last season I took guests from Egypt, Zimbabwe and Senegal to games at St Mirren Park. Each a different shade to me. Is that conscious anti-racism? Only asking because unconscious racism doesn't exist, oaky told me that then accused me of being a hand wringing lefty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, salmonbuddie said: Is that conscious anti-racism? Only asking because unconscious racism doesn't exist, oaky told me that then accused me of being a hand wringing lefty... Only if I hadn't taken along others who were pale skinned like me. Unfortunately Oaky is fallible. He does seem to have a thing about left wing, whatever he means by that. Simple truth is that I don't practice discrimination whether colour, creed or political persuasion etc. I just accept people as they are and ask only that they do the same and mostly, though not always, they do. Edited June 22, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 It's been a long close season............................ Roll on when the games start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, helpmaboab said: It's been a long close season A think yi'll find it's been nae longer than usual. You watch too much World Cup, Scottish games are gonna luk even mair rubbish than usual efter that. Thankfully less diving in the Scottish Game. There is Mullen though. Hope he has ceased those cheating antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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