Katie Bear Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Another couple of belting decisions from "But But he's one of EUFA's top ref's"Apparently the top pic is an offside goal and the bottom one hasn't crossed the line and isn't a goal at all. Fine work but still 3 or 4 bad decisions off his personal best set at Saints on January 2nd this year when he missed one blatant and critical offside, missed one clear penalty decision, awarded 3 incorrect penalties and left Saints with 10 men after an incorrect and ultimately overturned red card. If only they could have had a wee bit of rain to allow him to find a puddle where the ball wouldn't bounce and he could have wiped this game from the records and started again. So poor it isn't even funny any more ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) aberdeen offside.jpg aberdeen-goal.jpg Another couple of belting decisions from "But But he's one of EUFA's top ref's" Apparently the top pic is an offside goal and the bottom one hasn't crossed the line and isn't a goal at all. Fine work but still 3 or 4 bad decisions off his personal best set at Saints on January 2nd this year when he missed one blatant and critical offside, missed one clear penalty decision, awarded 3 incorrect penalties and left Saints with 10 men after an incorrect and ultimately overturned red card. If only they could have had a wee bit of rain to allow him to find a puddle where the ball wouldn't bounce and he could have wiped this game from the records and started again. So poor it isn't even funny any more ! Neither of these is Colllums fault. He's got an official running the line that is supposed to spot these things. Edited February 16, 2015 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Aye, all down to the Assistant Referee. Leave Willie alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky1 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Top picture isn't offside, look up ,top right, Hamilton defender is playing both Aberdeen players on side. 2nd one don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Top picture isn't offside, look up ,top right, Hamilton defender is playing both Aberdeen players on side. 2nd one don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Top picture isn't offside, look up ,top right, Hamilton defender is playing both Aberdeen players on side. 2nd one don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 He did miss a blatant penalty when the centre half who was on a booking and would later get sent off threw Rooney out of the way about 8 yards from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bear Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Top picture isn't offside, look up ,top right, Hamilton defender is playing both Aberdeen players on side. 2nd one don't know err. yeah the point is it isn't offside....he chopped off a goal saying it WAS. Yes assistant should help but FFS these are a matter of yards.....virtually everyone in the ground except those who make the decision saw them. If he can't judge an offside decision that's 2-3 yards off or a ball a yard over the line then that is 2 HUGE mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 aberdeen offside.jpg aberdeen-goal.jpg Another couple of belting decisions from "But But he's one of EUFA's top ref's" Apparently the top pic is an offside goal and the bottom one hasn't crossed the line and isn't a goal at all. Fine work but still 3 or 4 bad decisions off his personal best set at Saints on January 2nd this year when he missed one blatant and critical offside, missed one clear penalty decision, awarded 3 incorrect penalties and left Saints with 10 men after an incorrect and ultimately overturned red card. If only they could have had a wee bit of rain to allow him to find a puddle where the ball wouldn't bounce and he could have wiped this game from the records and started again. So poor it isn't even funny any more ! I've not seen the footage but was the Hamilton player on the park when the ball went forward? Just trying to think of a reason why it was given offside but like others were saying this is the linesmans cock up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've not seen the footage but was the Hamilton player on the park when the ball went forward? Just trying to think of a reason why it was given offside but like others were saying this is the linesmans cock up. The Hamilton full back got skinned, the ball was played back to dons man who knocked it forward to Goodwillie who was at least a YARD onside. The Accies player wandered off the field after goodwillie shot More sfa incompetence & yet again nothing will be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 The Hamilton full back got skinned, the ball was played back to dons man who knocked it forward to Goodwillie who was at least a YARD onside. The Accies player wandered off the field after goodwillie shot More sfa incompetence & yet again nothing will be done. Ever thought of taking up commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ever thought of taking up commentary Got to be better than my playing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've not seen the footage but was the Hamilton player on the park when the ball went forward? Just trying to think of a reason why it was given offside but like others were saying this is the linesmans cock up. Even if he was behind the bye line, he would still be considered to be 'in play'. I remember the same thing happened previously when the defender (Materazzi, I think) was behind the line and the ref still gave the goal, because it was deemed he had played the forward on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky1 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 err. yeah the point is it isn't offside....he chopped off a goal saying it WAS. Yes assistant should help but FFS these are a matter of yards.....virtually everyone in the ground except those who make the decision saw them. If he can't judge an offside decision that's 2-3 yards off or a ball a yard over the line then that is 2 HUGE mistakes. Apologies Katie, I thought you were saying it was offside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo57 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 chalky1, on 16 Feb 2015 - 08:08, said: Top picture isn't offside, look up ,top right, Hamilton defender is playing both Aberdeen players on side. 2nd one don't know Apologies Katie, I thought you were saying it was offside What about your 2nd sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky1 Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 chalky1, on 16 Feb 2015 - 08:08, said: What about your 2nd sentence No goal, I didn't hear a beep, so the ball hasn't crossed the line, correct decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Yoda Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Even if he was behind the bye line, he would still be considered to be 'in play'. I remember the same thing happened previously when the defender (Materazzi, I think) was behind the line and the ref still gave the goal, because it was deemed he had played the forward on. Correct. Any player who leaves the pitch is considered to be positioned on the line. Thus meaning the defender plays the attacker on. By the letter of the law the defender should be booked for not asking the refs permission to leave the field of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I've not seen the footage but was the Hamilton player on the park when the ball went forward? Just trying to think of a reason why it was given offside but like others were saying this is the linesmans cock up. David, when I watched the game live that was my initial thought too, however last night I checked the FIFA Laws of the Game page and Master Yoda is correct - there is a complete section on it. IMO the rules seem incredibly unfair though and heavily favour the attacking side. Apparently if a defender leaves the field of play behind the bye line the referee has to play on despite the striker being in an offside position (in effect deeming the defender to be playing everyone onside). The defender is then not allowed back onto the field of play without the referee's consent and the referee is supposed to caution the defender for unsporting conduct. The striker leaving the field of play - as happened in this incident - is not deemed to be interfering with play therefore he isn't in an offside position and although he too isn't supposed to return to the field of play without the referee's consent, he shouldn't be cautioned for unsporting play. As it turns out though in this example it doesn't matter cause the Hamilton player isn't off the park when the final ball is played and he is indeed playing everyone onside. He doesn't step off the pitch until the ball crosses the line. For me it's the assistant ref who has to make that call though. He should have got it right. The penalty incident, when you watch it in live play Rooney does indeed foul the defender first before being thrown to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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