pozbaird Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39055696 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Top Cop has no dick............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof Hearted Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, pozbaird said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39055696 she ordered the assassination of jean Charles de Menezes in 2005 this will always follow her, so surprised she got the top job in the met. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes Edited February 22, 2017 by Hoof Hearted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hoof Hearted said: she ordered the assassination of jean Charles de Menezes in 2005 this will always follow her, so surprised she got the top job in the met Really? I thought she was cleared on that accusation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof Hearted Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Really? I thought she was cleared on that accusation? well the metropolitan police closed ranks if that's what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Hoof Hearted said: well the metropolitan police closed ranks if that's what you mean. So she was cleared and you don't believe it? That's quite different from "ordering an assassination" ya trumpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 So if she was cleared, the enquiry must've concluded who did order his killing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: So if she was cleared, the enquiry must've concluded who did order his killing then? Did anybody order his killing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Did anybody order his killing? I ordered Peking Duck and egg fried rice...... [emoji85]Ok ok....... I'm leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: So if she was cleared, the enquiry must've concluded who did order his killing then? Leave him alone , he clearly thinks that the murder of innocent civilians on London streets by those who are supposed to protect people , should go unpunished. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Russian Saint said: Peking DIck Edited February 23, 2017 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: Leave him alone , he clearly thinks that the murder of innocent civilians on London streets by those who are supposed to protect people , should go unpunished. . ^^^^^^ Clown. Just making sure the allegations are aimed at the right person, me bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 From what little I know of the circumstances of this one, it seemed a somewhat irregular mechanism whereby Dick was absolved of any responsibility. I'm not entirely clear as to how closely her role was scrutinised. In any event, you'd have to wonder if this is a wise appointment in terms of PR and trust. It is unlikely to engender a sense of ease in anyone who is cutting about London who happens not to look Western European in heritage and is wearing a backpack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Did anybody order his killing? Yes. There's a process to these operations where someone says it's OK to shoot him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: Yes. There's a process to these operations where someone says it's OK to shoot him. You're thinking about a GLS and SMiSA board meeting should Jack Ross take us to the third tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: Yes. There's a process to these operations where someone says it's OK to shoot him. I understand this, who was this person or was it a spur of the moment decision by the guy with the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: Remind me not to travel via Heathrow on the way back from Australia next year. Dinnae fret. You'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 I understand this, who was this person or was it a spur of the moment decision by the guy with the gun? This was kinda what I was asking. If she was cleared who was held accountable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, TPAFKATS said: This was kinda what I was asking. If she was cleared who was held accountable? I don't recall but I was clarifying that while she was at the top of the tree it wasn't her call, as far as the latest news reports are concerned. It was a tragic case, no matter who was at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Often, the person at the head of the chain of command will fall on his or her sword when there is a catastrophic failure in an organisation. Whether or not Dick directly granted permission for the victim to be shot (7 times, in the head), she had overall accountability. Worryingly, Dick seemingly said subsequently that she wouldn't have done anything differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Drew said: Often, the person at the head of the chain of command will fall on his or her sword when there is a catastrophic failure in an organisation. Whether or not Dick directly granted permission for the victim to be shot (7 times, in the head), she had overall accountability. Worryingly, Dick seemingly said subsequently that she wouldn't have done anything differently. Not come across this? Your point about people at the head of the chain is mute as it's clearly a decision based on many factors. You obviously, for some reason, feel she's not the right choice. I don't know this woman but she must be highly though of to be given her current position in a career still dominated by men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Your point about people at the head of the chain is mute as it's clearly a decision based on many factors. It certainly isn't mute. It may, however, be moot.... I don't have a hugely strong view one way or another, but I'm not sure if its the most prudent appointment given the circumstances. I take your point about the glass ceiling, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 The thread title could easily be changed for Top Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 15 hours ago, Hoof Hearted said: she ordered the assassination of jean Charles de Menezes in 2005 this will always follow her, so surprised she got the top job in the met. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes i have no knowledge whether she ordered the killing however if you read the link you posted it makes no reference to her ordering his assassination. If fact it states that she ordered the suspect to be detained as soon as possible. Before she handed the operation over to the specialist firearms command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, Gruffalo said: i have no knowledge whether she ordered the killing however if you read the link you posted it makes no reference to her ordering his assassination. If fact it states that she ordered the suspect to be detained as soon as possible. Before she handed the operation over to the specialist firearms command. Don't let that get in the way of him posting shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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