Eric Arthur Blair Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 This also make any appeal hard to uphold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Bit of dubiety about when the elbow came out and for what reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 On the tv earlier to it Cav was talking about previous painfully damaged shoulders and suggesting this one was the worst... he wasn't wrong. Broken scapula. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40499580 he's oot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, antrin said: On the tv earlier to it Cav was talking about previous painfully damaged shoulders and suggesting this one was the worst... he wasn't wrong. Broken scapula. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40499580 he's oot.... Yeh not good . . I used to like Peter Sagan and now he just looks like a c**t . I think the jury have made the right decision . .Sagan may struggle to come back from this . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: Bit of dubiety about when the elbow came out and for what reason? Is that you trying to defend Sagan? The reason it came out was to batter Cavendish into the barrier and force him out of the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Is that you trying to defend Sagan? The reason it came out was to batter Cavendish into the barrier and force him out of the stage. In the immediate aftermath, either Millar or Boardman were defending the elbow as worse than it looked and NOT intentional... With benefit of replays and hindsight... Though a critical bit of elbow replay was masked by trees.Wee Cav's nicely politic response to the news of Sagan's removal from the Tour was that it was the Board/Committee's decision - which I thought was great from someone who was hurting both physically and mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Per the views from overhead along with the view in front of the bunch , I find Sagan's position hard to defend . The only way he could possibly defend that would be if there was going to be ea collision between Cav and Sagan but from above it looks like Sagan targets Cav . .blatant and brutal Edited July 5, 2017 by saintnextlifetime Edited by Tom for grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Froomey now in yellow but it looks like it will be tougher for him to hang on to it this season. Thought Yates looked very strong yesterday which is great for the sport here but I reckon wee Nairo was having an off day . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Is that you trying to defend Sagan? The reason it came out was to batter Cavendish into the barrier and force him out of the stage. Yes, it looks like that could be the reason however sagan also looked to be following the French jersey and unaware that cav was coming from behind. The elbow could have been construed as going out to defensively as often happens in the sprints, esp when a rider next to you is off balance.None of my comments were in defence of Sagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Certainly , Ben Swift , who was close to the action was unwilling to say if Sagan was at fault , a bit ambiguous really . What is certain , Sagan should not have fell out with his barber . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Seems Bora (sagan's team) sought an urgent hearing with Court of Arbitration for Sport. They unsurprisingly (?) sided with the Tour's decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Sagan is not the first to be kicked off the Tour for dodgy actions during a sprint and he won't be the last. Maybe it wasn't malicious but it looks wrong . . Cav is experienced enough to know not to get that close to the barrier in the first place which is why he has taken some responsibility . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof Hearted Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Very technical stage today, lots of echelons switchbacks and riders going deep on the rivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Who will be Scotlands next Phiippa York !?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Just now, Ayrshire Saints said: Who will be Scotlands next Phiippa York !?!?!? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Or Josephine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Just finished my 4 night shifts where I only caught a few glimpses of the action. Cav/Sagan - Unexpectedly harsh decision to disqualify Sagan as sprint finishes have always had a touch of the barroom brawls but maybe it's about time the organizers did something like this. Opens up the race for green with Kittel looking to be the sharpest of the sprinters atm before we hit the mountains. Froome/Aru - With another ITT to come where Froome will likely gain another minute over his rivals the only rider I can see challenging him is Aru who has just had his lower turbinates fixed. As for today's stage the peloton are currently holding the 4 man breakaway at about 21⁄2 minutes. **************** As an aside it's finally been confirmed that Glasgow boy Robert Millar is no longer a boy.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof Hearted Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 1 hour ago, shull said: Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 07/07/2017 at 1:30 PM, Bud the Baker said: Just finished my 4 night shifts where I only caught a few glimpses of the action. Cav/Sagan - Unexpectedly harsh decision to disqualify Sagan as sprint finishes have always had a touch of the barroom brawls but maybe it's about time the organizers did something like this. Opens up the race for green with Kittel looking to be the sharpest of the sprinters atm before we hit the mountains. Froome/Aru - With another ITT to come where Froome will likely gain another minute over his rivals the only rider I can see challenging him is Aru who has just had his lower turbinates fixed. As for today's stage the peloton are currently holding the 4 man breakaway at about 21⁄2 minutes. **************** As an aside it's finally been confirmed that Glasgow boy Robert Millar is no longer a boy.............. Agree re Sagan, never happened in the days of Abdou, had they interpreted that way back then he would have been kicked out just about every race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Good stage today altho' I briefly thought it was gonna be a tearjerker when young Cameltoe had a touch of cramp with about 3km to go but fortunately he cycled through the pain to win the stage and despite Dan Martin having a wee go at about 2km Sky pulled it back for Froome by the finish line so there was no change in the GC standings. Looks like a toughie tomorrow before the rest day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Agree re Sagan, never happened in the days of Abdou, had they interpreted that way back then he would have been kicked out just about every race. if you mean the tashkent Tiger , he did get flung off the Tour and quite rightly so. . As for today , I thought wee Lilian put in a herioc effort to overcome the cramp on that nasty wee climb and still manage to stay away from Gesink and win the stage , well done that man. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 13 hours ago, saintnextlifetime said: if you mean the tashkent Tiger , he did get flung off the Tour and quite rightly so. . As for today , I thought wee Lilian put in a herioc effort to overcome the cramp on that nasty wee climb and still manage to stay away from Gesink and win the stage , well done that man. . Did he ? I remember him getting done for doping but don't recall him being disqualified for any physical contact despite numerous infamous conflicts. Not saying he wasn't I just don't recall it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Long way to go but Froome is provisionally out of yellow........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 I see Robert Millar is now using a step thru bike....... http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40529614 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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